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post #451 of 2317 Old 09-07-2012, 08:46 AM
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I didn't get the $ 449 deal, but I think that was in store pickup right? I'm still pleased with my PJ. I hooked a usb hard drive to it and viewed some PDF docs. Text was clear.

My screen is almost done, just have to frame it. I'm still torn between keeping it a 16:9 or making it a 16:10. Somethings I like to view with the setting FULL selected. When I do that it spills over the top and bottom. I know if it was 16:10 it wouldn't do that. Guess I have to find out how many times I use the FULL setting.
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whats this 3D talk? is this a 3D-capable projector?
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I sold my HW300T to get this PA70G. While image is brighter and speakers are decent at 3W, multiple usb drive support isn't working on this model. On the HW300T, I was able to attached a 4 bay usb unit to the projector and could browse all 4 drives. The new PA70G, only the first drive is visible. A bit annoying to have to redo my media setup but the higher lumens equalizes the usb issue.
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I sold my HW300T to get this PA70G. While image is brighter and speakers are decent at 3W, multiple usb drive support isn't working on this model. On the HW300T, I was able to attached a 4 bay usb unit to the projector and could browse all 4 drives. The new PA70G, only the first drive is visible. A bit annoying to have to redo my media setup but the higher lumens equalizes the usb issue.

Neither the PA70G or the HW300T support USB hubs, according to their manuals: page 24 for the PA70g and page 37 for the HW300T. I tried FOUR USB hubs and the HW300T failed to recognize the drives. So what 4 Bay USB unit did you use on the HW300T and is it still available?
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It was a Sans Digital MS4UM 4 bay usb3/esata unit. It's sold under a few different names including that and Mediasonic.
Today I went to Frys and picked up a LG PS520 media player. This unit does support the 4 bay drive and also wireless streaming. Will try using Serviio to stream mkv files to the projector. On the HW300T, wifi streaming was problematic even with router 10ft away. Hopefully this LG PS520 is better for wifi streaming, will reduce clutterwith extenal drives and the 4 bay unit.
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It was a Sans Digital MS4UM 4 bay usb3/esata unit. It's sold under a few different names including that and Mediasonic.
Today I went to Frys and picked up a LG PS520 media player. This unit does support the 4 bay drive and also wireless streaming. Will try using Serviio to stream mkv files to the projector. On the HW300T, wifi streaming was problematic even with router 10ft away. Hopefully this LG PS520 is better for wifi streaming, will reduce clutterwith extenal drives and the 4 bay unit.

Thanks for the info. My computers support eSATA also.

I have had no problems streaming to the HW300T from over eighty feet from my routers. Prior to purchase, I read similar stories on Amazon where users had streaming problems. The solution was a simple USB extension cable. The cable allowed the WiFi dongle to be oriented to receive a good signal. I don't stream because the HW300T requires the internet be active to stream a movie.
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would you please let us know about your experience once you try wi-fi streaming with PA70G ? Is it possible at first place to plug the LG wifi dongle and stream video ?
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Wifi streaming wasnt smooth with the LG SP520 media player. I guess the 12GB mkv file was a bit too much to handle. Wired streaming works fine but defeats the purpose of a lite setup. I may buy a 900mbs router and try again but given my previous wifi test with 2 900mbs routers & the HW300T, I doubt it would change much.
Going back to the 4 bay Sans Digital box and directly connecting to usb port of the SP520 may end up being the easiest solution. It does have a sync mode so once the media player is powered down, the 4 bay unit will also go into sleep mode.
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Wifi streaming wasnt smooth with the LG SP520 media player. I guess the 12GB mkv file was a bit too much to handle. Wired streaming works fine but defeats the purpose of a lite setup. I may buy a 900mbs router and try again but given my previous wifi test with 2 900mbs routers & the HW300T, I doubt it would change much.
Going back to the 4 bay Sans Digital box and directly connecting to usb port of the SP520 may end up being the easiest solution. It does have a sync mode so once the media player is powered down, the 4 bay unit will also go into sleep mode.

I have several questions:
1. Did you use an USB extension cable to allow orienting the WiFi dongle?
2. How much storage is contained in the 4 bay unit you have?
3. Do you only use USB2?
4. None of the reviews of the eSATA function indicated that it was a simple plug n play. Did you test the eSATA function? If so under what conditions?
5. I have my main router connected in a dual config (one as a 802g access point directly connected to the main 802n). I get my best reception from the 802g because my neighbor crowd the 802n. Which protocol did you use?
6. You mention the "easiest solution". What is your objective? I have directly connected a 2.5 1TB hdd to the HW300T with no problems and I'm pretty sure the it would have worked on the PA70G. I also tested a 2 TB HD with success. So how much media do you plan to have online?

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I have several questions:
1. Did you use an USB extension cable to allow orienting the WiFi dongle?
2. How much storage is contained in the 4 bay unit you have?
3. Do you only use USB2?
4. None of the reviews of the eSATA function indicated that it was a simple plug n play. Did you test the eSATA function? If so under what conditions?
5. I have my main router connected in a dual config (one as a 802g access point directly connected to the main 802n). I get my best reception from the 802g because my neighbor crowd the 802n. Which protocol did you use?
6. You mention the "easiest solution". What is your objective? I have directly connected a 2.5 1TB hdd to the HW300T with no problems and I'm pretty sure the it would have worked on the PA70G. I also tested a 2 TB HD with success. So how much media do you plan to have online?
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1) The LG SP520 does not have a wifi dongle. It is internal to the device vs the HW300T which has external usb wifi
2) The 4 bay unit supports up to 3TB per drive so 12TB is max it can support BUT with most media units it connects to, 3TB or higher drives are generally not supported by the devices (I did not test breaking the drive up into 2TB/1TB partitions)
3) Unit is USB3.0 but for all media usage, it is using USB2.0 (dont think there are many USB3.0 support devices atm) - not that it matters for streaming.
4) 2.4GHZ n is what I tried.
5) Objective is to have library at a touch of a button without having to swap drives.

I plugged in a cheap $5 Inland usb2 hub into the LG SP520 media player earlier today and it actually worked. So at least we know the LG SP520 supports usb hubs. May be a good purchse for users who have to switch usb drives back and forth with the PA70G. Currently priced at $40 at Frys (was $30 last week)

Recap

LG HW300T - smaller unit, louder fan, decent images, better wifi streaming support (multiple usb drive support with correct usb bay units (Sans Digital, Mediasonic)
LG PA70G - it's rather large for a portable led projector. more lumens, no wifi streaming support, no multiple usb drive support
LG SP520 - low priced media player that can do both wifi and wired streaming from DLNA servers. Does support multiple usb hd bays and usb hubs. Does support audio playback of DTS material.
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Basically, you had wifi problems with the HW300T but did not use an extension cable to be able to get maximum signal quality.

Nor were you aware of how crowded the spectrum may have been during your tests, correct?

I researched the 4 hub unit and read about the problems with usb3. Frankly, I have had similar problems with USB3 (Meritline cards and adapters)

But I was curious about your actual use: How much storage DO you have in the unit? You imply that you tested 3TB drive(3). Did you?

When I asked about your objective, I asked "So how much media do you plan to have online?" because 1 TB unit can hold a lot of movies, songs, and pictures. So are you planning for more than 1 or 2 TB?

When I connect my INLAND USB 4 port hub I get "No Storage Units Available" message. They are unpowered but HDD is a 2.5 120 WD USB2 that works if connected to the HW300T.
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My wife ordered a PA70G on sale as well. I'm not very experienced at comparing pq but I was very disaponted compared to our older sharp dt-510 (720P) with a bulb on 1500 hours. The sharp has a cleaner and more detailed image and was still just as bright as the PA70G at 100". I think led projectors have a ways to go before they can even compare to the older 720p models.
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After doing an impromptu "light calibration" on my unit, I auditioned it against a very nice, older JVC HD-1 on a 120" 1.3 gain (I believe) Screen Innovation screen. The HD-1 of course blows it away in resolution and black levels, but hte PA70G has quite a bit of punch to its image. I'd say there is definitely something to this "25% brighter at the same lumens from an LED PJ" claim. The PA70G in medium brightness was perfectly fine with some ambient light on, while it was washing out the HD-1 image significantly (normal lamp mode, fairly new lamp).

I was really impressed with the PA70G brightness actually. I was somewhat worried that 120" was just not doable with its lumen output, but it was plenty bright for me at medium power saving mode.


Yes, you do lose some fine detail with the diamond pixels on really complex scenes (I watched some scenes from Baraka), but from ~12-14' away it's really not a major issue IMO. At 100" or below I don't think it'd be an issue in the slightest.
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I've had this projector for a few weeks. Overall I'm impressed, however I'm definitely experiencing a problem with uneven focus — at almost any throw distance. Can anyone confirm that there are units that *do* have an even focus? I saw the post about adjusting the screws on the lens housing, but the screw on mine seems to be extremely tight, and I'm afraid I'll strip it if I try to loosen it.
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Mine seems to have some slight soft spots, but it really isn't horrible. It's more that the screen door between the pixels gets just slightly less defined, but nothing very obvious from normal viewing positions. Then again, I haven't looked at a ton of text on the unit. Maybe I'll do that sometime this weekend on a proper screen.
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to summarize:

- still focus issues
- strange high pitch sound from the fan

what about the ca? can someone take a closup pic of a bw crosspattern?
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The high pitched noise has to do with some circuitry inside the projector, but it is not very loud. The fans are not that loud really, especially below the max brightness setting. The "high pitched" sound is similar to a CRT TV when you get close to it and put your ear next to it. I don't find it distracting, even using the tiny 3W onboard speakers with the PJ right in front of me.

I don't notice much CA on my unit. I'll try to take some pics of it on a proper screen sometime this week.
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btw, anyone already measured output brigthness for max, med, min mode? I am interested.
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Looking to buy one at 449.00 think that deal will happen again? Seems to be the one to buy for
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The cheapest I can find this in the UK is GBP 699 = USD 1130 frown.gif
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Looking to buy one at 449.00 think that deal will happen again? Seems to be the one to buy for
the money.

I will be sure to get one at that price when/if it does go on sale again, even if I haven't seen it in person.
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Can't wait to get one seems like a deal just pissed I missed out earlier.

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The cheapest I can find this in the UK is GBP 699 = USD 1130 frown.gif[/q
Buy it from amazon.de its 699 euro. (560 GBP) wink.gif
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Looks like this week's ad has it on sale @ Frys for $499; however, the online price is still showing $799...

Can any of you sharewith me your best settings (gamma, contrast, tint and etc.) under normal and minimum energy saving mode?
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Looks like this week's ad has it on sale @ Frys for $499; however, the online price is still showing $799...
Can any of you sharewith me your best settings (gamma, contrast, tint and etc.) under normal and minimum energy saving mode?

Thanks for the headsup, I see it in the local ad.
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Looks like this week's ad has it on sale @ Frys for $499; however, the online price is still showing $799...
Can any of you sharewith me your best settings (gamma, contrast, tint and etc.) under normal and minimum energy saving mode?
look @ the date of the ad.,it should be an old one.
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Anyone know what the actual lumens are for the PA70!

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I just got $499 + Tax at a local Fry for LGPA70g but the online price still shows $799
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I just got $499 + Tax at a local Fry for LGPA70g but the online price still shows $799

Good for you, so what is your impression on LG PA70G? Can you share your thoughts?
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Hello to users who have owned the lg pa70g,

Does this unit has an audio output ? Thank a lot
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