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post #721 of 2337 Old 11-11-2012, 08:08 AM
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excuse me, did you just say 100" screen for 15 bucks???
where can I order from and how bad does it look?

Yes, in the past I projected onto plain wall, but live is changed, and I have a bricked wall now, that's why I had to go to local textile shop to buy canvas.smile.gif

But I found a better and cheaper solution in the textile shop, it is more reflective and cheaper than canvas, it named sun block, one side is reflective silver and another one is reflective white, this is a thin plastic roll.wink.gif

In roll 150cm x 100 price is starting 7-9 euros, depending of the thinness, and you can buy any size, but the maximum projected image size without cut is 150cm x 240cm, which is about 111 inches for 16 euro and this is approximately 15 USD for 100 inches.

But I think this sun block was expensive, because everything are overpriced here, and everywhere you can buy 100 inches from this material cheaper than 15 USD.
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Thank You so much Rugrash & tataniko for helping out with such great information.
It does take time and effort, so thank's to you both for all the help and posting what you know here.


Hey tataniko, from the picture, those FX-30 glasses look like they have a very soft and comfy looking piece of rubber for the nose piece, is that correct ? Also, do they have a green-ish, blue-ish or yellow-ish tint while watching a movie ?

Are these the FX-30 glasses you are using..LINK....http://www.everbuying.com/product170100.html
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Is it not possible to get 120hz through HDMI on this projector?

Multi-Projector Edge-Blending & Geometry correction for games and simulations.
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Thank You so much Rugrash & tataniko for helping out with such great information.
It does take time and effort, so thank's to you both for all the help and posting what you know here.
Hey tataniko, from the picture, those FX-30 glasses look like they have a very soft and comfy looking piece of rubber for the nose piece, is that correct ? Also, do they have a green-ish, blue-ish or yellow-ish tint while watching a movie ?
Are these the FX-30 glasses you are using..LINK....http://www.everbuying.com/product170100.html

The big picture:
Yes, that is it, but mine was 23.90 USD with shipping. I can not compare directly FX-30 glasses picture quality to a branded glasses, sorry, because I have not branded, but I could compare picture quality in same film. This is my 3D experience result between an 1080p film versus 1080p 3D side by side film:

- 3D is not too sharp such 1080p content,
- 3D contrast is much worse,
- 3D is 70% darker,
- sometimes, glasses lost the sync,

+ but no ghosting,
+ good colors,
+ no blur,
+ no motion lagging,
+ no flickering,
+ good 3D experience,
+ easy sync with glasses L/R button.

So my overall impression with this glasses is good,
+ very comfortable,
+ light weight,
+ good to wearing,
+ when I go out from the room, auto shut down,
+ good price,

- but 700 lumens have an acceptable 3D brightness on 100" in dark room only,
- in the beginning I should go near the screen to pick up 3D signal,
- and I have put the projector to maximal brightness,

but all together, I am very satisfied with it, and this glasses has a very good price/quality/experience index, so I recommend this product.
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I just got back from Fry's where I managed to get one for $449. It's so quiet and the picture is so amazing. I'm blown away!
I have a question though, is the inner lens part supposed to be totally lined up with the outside ring? because on this one it doesn't appear to be lined up . I don't know how to describe so I might have to post a pic. It looks wrong to me, but the projected image looks good.
It looks off center to me. Is this normal? Are everyone's PA70G's like this?

Just got back from Fry's, and mine is like that as well. No focus issues so far, but I experienced a bit of RBE. Getting used to it.
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Hi tataniko,
What do you think the gain is on your screen ?
For somone who really wants to go LED for there next projector, but also wants 3D, I would think with the money you will save on replacement bulbs, that buying a 2.4 Gain Da-lite High Power screen plus a LG PA70G would make a good pairing and still save money in the long run over a bulb based 3D projector.

Wonder if there is a DIY Screen that gets 2.0 or higher in gain...?
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Wonder if there is a DIY Screen that gets 2.0 or higher in gain...?

This sounds like a job for, MississippiMan !
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Hi tataniko,
What do you think the gain is on your screen ?
For somone who really wants to go LED for there next projector, but also wants 3D, I would think with the money you will save on replacement bulbs, that buying a 2.4 Gain Da-lite High Power screen plus a LG PA70G would make a good pairing and still save money in the long run over a bulb based 3D projector.
Wonder if there is a DIY Screen that gets 2.0 or higher in gain...?

I don't believe the 1-2 gained screens worth the price, because we can buy

- Optical projector screens 18-23 gain, or
- Dual images screens 4 gain,
which is simultaneously allowing front and rear view by one projector.

If I want to invest my money for a screen, that will be a 23 gain optical screen or dual images screen and nothing else. My screen is approximately 0.8 - 1 gain, but for that price it is much better than plain wall.
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The answer would be S-I-L-V-E-R 1.4 to 2.0. I use this with the Qumi Q5 with
great results. And yes Mississippi is the man!
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Although the silver side is more reflective than matt white on the sun block roll, but this is true only from limited perspective, and this limited viewing angle finally results on the whole silver side screen at 100" a more darker picture.

I must use white side for screen, because it is more balanced for reflection than silver one.
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Here is my DIY screen, and my DIY projector stand. I think its not bad, for about 35 euros.

Costs:
Wood: 8 euros
Black material: 7 euros (dont ask me what kind.. dont remember, but i tried to choose something not reflective similar to velvet. Velvet was 35 euros.
White material: 21 euros 1.2 gain Blackout clothes
Screen size: 100"
I think its not that bad. smile.gif
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Jagermester, That looks GREAT.
Is that a 100"diag. 16:9 or 16:10 screen.
Also Jagermester, in your picture it looks like you have the lights on and the image still looks bright for a 100" screen with a 700lumen projector...Must have somthing to do with LED light.
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Jagermester, that's amazing. Can't believe how cheap it was to make.


found a new YouTube video, not sure what about because no English .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71niquARMto&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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It is 16:10 screen. I use it for everything (games, movies, internet) so i decided to go with 16:10
Yes the light is on, but it is not the PA70G. I have the small brother of PA70G, the LGPB60G, and it is 500 Lumens.
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It is 16:10 screen. I use it for everything (games, movies, internet) so i decided to go with 16:10
Yes the light is on, but it is not the PA70G. I have the small brother of PA70G, the LGPB60G, and it is 500 Lumens.

Thats the 500Lumens LGPB60G...Wow..
That gives me hope the LGPA70G paired with a S-I-L-V-E-R or Da-Lite High Power screen would work well with 3D movies, which always need higher brightness.
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It is 16:10 screen. I use it for everything (games, movies, internet) so i decided to go with 16:10
Yes the light is on, but it is not the PA70G. I have the small brother of PA70G, the LGPB60G, and it is 500 Lumens.

jagermester, nice job!! I did the same thing except I stapled the fabric to the wall, then nailed the frame (used 2" wide molding) thin 1/8" thick, worked well, used an old Stewart ultramatte 150 material I found locally from an old screen someone gave me for $20.00. I used to have the HW350T but sold it and I just received (today) my LG PB61U ordered from beach camera thru amazon. it's much brighter and the projector is much smaller that I imagined. Razor sharp focus from corner to corner, but it does get a bit hot. I wish the had built a bigger case for it for better cooling. I know this is a PA70 thread, but I've been following it and wanted to share my experience in case someone is thinking about this model

only negative so far...my old HW350T was throwing a bigger image at the same distance, this doesn't quite fill the screen, about 2" smaller high/wide, so now it's 94" or so diagonal as opposed to 96" I was a bit disappointed but a great picture.biggrin.gif
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Thanks smile.gif Yes it does get hot, but if you noticed, not near the lamp , only in the middle. Its important. Imagine i'm living in cyprus, i bought it in august. It was 40 degree here every day. So i have it for almost 4 months, and it works well. By the way, by the time focus will get even better. wink.gif Unfortunately mine has a bit focus issue. U were lucky, that you got great focus out of the box.
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found a new YouTube video, not sure what about because no English .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71niquARMto&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Google Translate = Comparison two projetores LG Pa70g e Epson S5. Using native resoluçao not 1280 x 720 video.

My question what projector being shown has the softer lower res image, the LG or is it the Epson?
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Google Translate = Comparison two projetores LG Pa70g e Epson S5. Using native resoluçao not 1280 x 720 video.
My question what projector being shown has the softer lower res image, the LG or is it the Epson?

Probably higher resolution is the PA70G in vivid mode. (colours are a bit over saturated) Epson lamp is dying smile.gif
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anyone play any street fighter with this thing, wondering if its lag free enough to pull off complex combos?
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Thanks smile.gif Yes it does get hot, but if you noticed, not near the lamp , only in the middle. Its important. Imagine i'm living in cyprus, i bought it in august. It was 40 degree here every day. So i have it for almost 4 months, and it works well. By the way, by the time focus will get even better. wink.gif Unfortunately mine has a bit focus issue. U were lucky, that you got great focus out of the box.


update: when I received my projector and opened the outer box, then I noticed the projector's box had been opened and re-sealed, I called vendor immediately and reported it. she told me to go ahead and open it and see what was the condition of the projector. I did and it looked untouched but the fact that it had been opened and I was sold a NEW projector bothered me. so decided to send back after the only offered me $25.00 refund for sending an open box unit. so Im getting a full refund, shipped it out today.

FYI...prior to packing it I had removed the screen material from my wall and I had at some point. painted a medium gray screen on the wall fro an Optoma HD20 I had, painted the wall medium gray to improve the black levels of the optoma.....well, the PB61U looked STUNNING on that gray wall, blacks were inky and rivaled my panasonic ae4000u, not as bright but pretty damn watchable @ 94" diagonal screen. so I imagine the PA70 with an 80-100 inch screen with a gray screen would just rock, thought you might wanna know:D
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Let me see if I understand this, I haven't really been following the new led projectors. The PB61U ($599) costs $150 more than the PA70G ($449). The PB61U has a built in ATSC tuner but that seems to be the only advantage it has over the PA70G?

Anyone out there own both the PA70G and the new PB61U?
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The PA70G MSRP is $799. Only Fry's has the price of 450 so it is quite a deal. It is probably better than the PB61G
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The PA70G MSRP is $799. Only Fry's has the price of 450 so it is quite a deal. It is probably better than the PB61G

so $450 X 3 = 1350 = triple wall no bulb led 3d 120hz gaming?

Is anyone thinking of doing a triple projector setup?

Is there any way to double stack two of these for a single brighter image?





I feel for anyone who paid close to full price for one of these, I just know that has to suck.
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anyone play any street fighter with this thing, wondering if its lag free enough to pull off complex combos?
Playing on it is without noticeable lag for me (in Street Fighter IV Arcade Editon).
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i'm planing to buy this PJ end of this month

the thing that really attract me to this PJ is the bulb hrs , and the lumens compared to the other l.e.d prijectors.

At the same time i am really afraid to the future problems that may happens to the PJ , as we all knows that 60% of dlp projectors get problems after a lot of usage (dead pixels , vertical lines , color wheel problems ,etc...)
is there any one had any of these problems with the pa70g PJ ?
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some people felt really sick and headache but I think its way too early for longterm hardware problems. focus was an issue on some but it fixable.
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i'm planing to buy this PJ end of this month
the thing that really attract me to this PJ is the bulb hrs , and the lumens compared to the other l.e.d prijectors.
At the same time i am really afraid to the future problems that may happens to the PJ , as we all knows that 60% of dlp projectors get problems after a lot of usage (dead pixels , vertical lines , color wheel problems ,etc...)
is there any one had any of these problems with the pa70g PJ ?

I've had several DLP projectors and I never had any dead pixels or vertical lines, and the color wheel on DLP projectors eventually goes bad, but these LED projectors do not use a color wheel, the used 3 LED lights red/greev/blue that cycle (turn on and off several times per second eliminating the need for color wheel
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As far as i know, the majority of the bad pixels on DLP chipsets were the early models. The mirrors would over extend and get stuck, now they are tethered on the corners with little straps. The newer ones most often get stuck due to dust lodging underneath the mirror, so be very careful when opening up these PJs in a dusty enviroment.

No where have I read anything about vetical line issues with any of the LED projectors. Can you provide us a link to where it was posted?
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The PA70G MSRP is $799. Only Fry's has the price of 450 so it is quite a deal. It is probably better than the PB61G

Where can I find this price? Everything online, including frys, is priced at $600-$800. Did a google search and it brought up the $449 frys deal but it was for labor day.
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