*New* AE100 Screenshots after intial calibrations - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 12:06 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
kenfab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ventura, Ca.
Posts: 130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Howdy folks, you may recall me from this thread from a few days ago... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=139048

Well, last night I was *finally* able to perform some initial calibrations on the AE100.
Click this link to the view the preliminary screenshots... http://209.234.184.99/ht.htm

*IMPORTANT - DUE TO .JPG COMPRESSION, THE 2048x1536 IMAGES ARE MUCH CLOSER TO THEIR REAL-LIFE COUNTERPARTS!!!* I can easily see the added .jpg artifacting in the 1024x768 shots... please don't confuse that with "screendoor" and "banding". Again, look at the 2048x1526 images for a more realistic portrayal.

I plan on continuing with the calibrations throughout the weekend and hope to post more pictures on Sunday or early next week...

The screen is a Da-Lite Model B 92"x52" Matte White.
Projector and Camera are ~11' from the screen. ~1.4X screen width.
Seating Position is ~15.5'. ~2X screen width.
Camera is an Olympus C-3040.

My Toshiba TW65X81 65" HDTV is now collecting dust in another room. :D

EDIT: The projector was *sharply* focused during these shots, and therefore some screendoor may be evident. However, these shots were taken near the projector (~11')... at the seating area (~15.5') screendoor is virtually nonexistent! LOL Yes, I should clean up my desktop a bit and uninstall a few rogue apps! ;)


Regards,
Ken

PS The guy in the "Screen Install #1" picture is my Father-In-Law... Great guy!
kenfab is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 12:13 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Namlemez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 3,347
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Very cool looking! I'm about to order one myself I think and it is good evidence of what the picture will look like. Pretty nice in comparison to a 27" screen, but not like the D-ILA w/ HTPC I got to check out...

Two things:

-Have you tried defocusing the projector slightly? Screendoor is evident.
-You installed PC Friendly?!?!?!! :)
Namlemez is offline  
post #3 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 12:38 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Wireless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: East Tennessee, USA
Posts: 2,130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Are these photos pretty close to the actual image?
Wireless is offline  
post #4 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 12:39 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
kenfab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ventura, Ca.
Posts: 130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Namlemez, do you (or anyone else) know of any good sites that have similar pictures (Shrek, FE, etc) using the D-ILA w/ HTPC? I'm currently on a search for all sites with screenshots from many projectors... I'd really like to see something to compare my set-up with. :)

Here's a site I found from one of our forum members (Wireless) that's exactly what I'm looking for... http://www.msnusers.com/MilleEmporium/hometheater.msnw

As an example compare this image...
http://www.msnusers.com/MilleEmporiu...oto&PhotoID=79

With this one...
http://209.234.184.99/images/p5160040s.jpg

EDIT: LOL Wireless, I was posting about your site as I was typing the previous. Yes, the shots are very close. However, as mentioned above, we sit another 4+ feet away from where the shots were taken, and therefore the images in real life are even better! :)

Ken
kenfab is offline  
post #5 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 12:44 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Wireless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: East Tennessee, USA
Posts: 2,130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I need to redo those screenhots, those were taken before painting the colorwheel, HTPC,adding a filter, and the new firehawk screen.

In fact I think that is this evening's project. I may leave the older photos in place for comparison.
Wireless is offline  
post #6 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 12:46 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
kenfab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ventura, Ca.
Posts: 130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Excellent. Let us know when your new shots are up! :)

BTW, that's a sweet-looking HT Room you've got there. My only wish is that mine was dedicated. For the most part it is, but I've got a Kitchen, Hallway, and Breakfast Nook on the right side of the room that I'd like to get rid of. ;)

Ken
kenfab is offline  
post #7 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 01:03 PM
Senior Member
 
mike_decock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 447
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Thumbs up to the Boltz MM-252s :D

-Mike...
mike_decock is offline  
post #8 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 01:11 PM
Member
 
revans35's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 83
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Ken,

I have a couple of setup questions for you...

How high is your ceiling? Approximately how far down is the screen hanging (ie chain length)? Is it normal for people with 9'-10' ceilings to have to lower the screen via chains to get a normal viewing position?

Also, Any chance of us getting some pictures of how you mounted your projector?

Thanks

Ryan
revans35 is offline  
post #9 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 01:28 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
kenfab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ventura, Ca.
Posts: 130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Ryan, the ceiling is 9' high. The screen is currently sitting 8 links down on the chain. ;) I not sure of the "norm", but I'm still in the process of trying various heights and making adjustments to the position of the screen, the projector, etc. Speaking of which, it's currently "mounted" on a portable wine rack!

That said, according to the manual, the optimum position of the projector is 2" from the bottom (or top, depending on mounting) of the screen.

Mike - yeah, the Boltz are niiiice! I think I'm going to need a third one soon!

Ken
kenfab is offline  
post #10 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 01:40 PM
Member
 
robertl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: US
Posts: 65
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
awesome pictures.. gloobing over them now.. and this was at 11 feet.. ok... *calculates**grumbles**writes down stuff*

//rl

edit: also shots with defocused and from seating position etc would be superb! What camera did ya take the pics with?

edit2: Note to self, dont be too quick and just click on pictures.. read the text before the pictures...
robertl is offline  
post #11 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 02:15 PM
AVS Special Member
 
jsaliga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Connecticut, USA
Posts: 4,218
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
kenfab,

It looks as though your whites are crushed. Otherwise nice pics.

--Jerome
jsaliga is offline  
post #12 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 02:29 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
kenfab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ventura, Ca.
Posts: 130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Jerome, yeah currently the Contrast is set to 31 (the highest value). I'm lowering it to a more reasonable level tonight... this is just the first of many shots that I plan on posting over the next several weeks. Hopefully as time progresses they'll get even better. :)

Ken
kenfab is offline  
post #13 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 03:13 PM
Member
 
m00n's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 154
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked: 10
OMG! That squirl is to die for! I have been laughing my ass off for 10 minutes now!
m00n is offline  
post #14 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 03:30 PM
Member
 
KarlDeAngelo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Fontana, CA
Posts: 33
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
kenfab,

I saw that you have NoLimits on your HTPC and must ask how that looks on the huge screen!

Hopefully I'll be purchasing one of these projectors soon...

Karl
KarlDeAngelo is offline  
post #15 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 03:40 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
kenfab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ventura, Ca.
Posts: 130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
NoLimits looks COOL (http://www.nolimitscoaster.de/)!!!

Some guest have already mentioned getting slight motion sickness after viewing the sim on the 8' wide screen. :D

The only problem is, my current HTPC is faily low-end, so the game doen't look nearly as good as my main PC upstairs (2GHz Athlon XP, Geforce 4, etc). My next project (*very* soon) is upgrading the HTPC.

Actually, if I think about it, tonight I'll take some shots of NoLimits in action and post them too!

Ken
kenfab is offline  
post #16 of 22 Old 05-17-2002, 09:17 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Wireless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: East Tennessee, USA
Posts: 2,130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
OK Ken I posted a new photo titled aftermods and aftermods2, same shots..same cheap digital camera.
Wireless is offline  
post #17 of 22 Old 05-18-2002, 05:10 AM
Member
 
mer8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 103
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
got a server application error when i clicked the link
what's up????
mer8 is offline  
post #18 of 22 Old 05-18-2002, 06:50 AM
cpc
AVS Club Gold
 
cpc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Toronto,ON,Canada
Posts: 7,504
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Cool. I guess with a bit of defocus, maybe the Hoya FLD fliter and sitting at the normal seating distance you'd have less or maybe no screen door.
cpc is offline  
post #19 of 22 Old 05-18-2002, 06:56 AM
Member
 
robertl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: US
Posts: 65
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
that rollercoaster app would be really cool on a bigscreen

*grumbles over his 15 inch lcd on the laptop, trying to get the bigscreenfeeling*
robertl is offline  
post #20 of 22 Old 05-18-2002, 07:44 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
kenfab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ventura, Ca.
Posts: 130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Saturday Morning Update:

Wireless - Thanks for the two new shots.

OK, I got home last night and did some more tweaking... Man alive I should have never set my contrast to 31! I set it back to "0", looked at the same shots from which I took my pictures, and wow, what I difference - now there is no more "crushed whites".

I'm still in the process of hunting down the proper procedure for finding the "best" contrast level, but so far I've only found instructions for D-ILA and DLP projectors. Also, while using AVIA, I can't see *any* moving white line in the applicable test pattern!?! I set my contrast as low as it will go and still didn't see it. Anyone know why that would be? Guy?

Incidentally, Cliff Plavin (Progressive Labs) over at TAWforum.com just replied to a post I made concerning calibrating the AE100 using the excellent CA-1 Colorimeter. He offered to create a "Cal" (Calibration) file specifically for the unit within 48 hours of me sending it to him! I'll take him up on the offer just as soon as I'm able to part with my new toy! ;) LOL however, in his response he indicated his shock at a request to provide a Cal file for a projector that costs less than the Colorimeter! :) Once I'm able to acquire the new file, I should be able to dial in D6500K from 0-100 IRE to the best of the Pannny's ability... *then* I'll be able take some niiiice pictures.

Anyway, I spent the rest of the night watching clips from various DVDs, which was a great experience.. unfortunately, the time passed so quickly that by the time I remembered to take some screenshots I was nearly asleep. Suffice it to say, I didn't take any new shots, but I plan on doing so tonight.


Ken
kenfab is offline  
post #21 of 22 Old 05-18-2002, 08:15 AM
Member
 
aderose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 144
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
If youre talking about not being able to see the white lines with HTPC as your source, set your projector's brightness and contrast to the default and use your computer's overlay controls istead - I had the the same problem
aderose is offline  
post #22 of 22 Old 05-18-2002, 08:53 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
kenfab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ventura, Ca.
Posts: 130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Yes, aderose, I'm using my HTPC with Radeon 7500. Thanks for the tip!

Ken
kenfab is offline  
Closed Thread Digital Projectors - Under $3,000 USD MSRP

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off