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Please help me choose a 1080p projector, better than Panasonic PT-AR100, for the same price 1200$

Is there a better option for a small room 3 meters (10 feet) from the projector to the wall?

I have a Panasonic 50VT20 plasma in the livingroom, and I would like to get a projector for the bedroom.

Also, what is the biggest recommended size of the screen for my room?

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I thought this was very helpful.....from 10 feet away it says MIN of 73 inches...and recommends 89.5 inches. I am 10 feet away and limited to 84 inches and I LOVE it! Bigger is not always better (My wife may disagree..lol) but when you are that close you don't want to feel like your sitting in the front row of a theater! This link is helpful. For the price you are looking at I have been leaning toward the Mitsubishi HC4000 (if it will fit in your set up), it is limited to where it can go, or the Epson 8350. Good luck! Hope this helps a bit... http://myhometheater.homestead.com/v...alculator.html
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Thank you very much for the answer. I was also looking at the Epson Home Cinema 8350(800£), Panasonic PT-AR100(800£), Acer H6500(590£), and Optoma HD20(590£), but I had no idea which one to buy.

From projectorcentral comparation it looks like Panasonic (2800ANSI) and Epson (2000ANSI) are the best, but Optoma has the best value for money.


So which one should I get...Optoma(210£ cheaper) or the Panasonic (2 times more bright, and 12 times more contrast)?

I found a 90" 16:9 screen for 50£ including transport...pretty cool.
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screen size should be perfect...question is do you NEED all light those projectors will throw? If you have dark shades or cutains...the epson will be plenty bright in econo mode and get you 4000 hours, plus it is very quiet for a small room and the warrenty and service is better? But the review states: "The AR100U is better suited to the living room, where ambient light would cause the Home Cinema 8350 to appear washed out and low in contrast." In a dark room, the epson's blacks will be much better!
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screen size should be perfect...question is do you NEED all light those projectors will throw? If you have dark shades or cutains...the epson will be plenty bright in econo mode and get you 4000 hours, plus it is very quiet for a small room and the warrenty and service is better? But the review states: "The AR100U is better suited to the living room, where ambient light would cause the Home Cinema 8350 to appear washed out and low in contrast." In a dark room, the epson's blacks will be much better!

That's exactly what I am debating for: Panasonic vs Epson. I would like high black levels and contrast. I have window shades but are white, and so are the walls, so during the day it's not dark. But I could buy black shades, or use the projector mostly in the evening or before going to sleep and I will like to see a movie before. During the day, I will use the Panasonic Plasma in the livingroom.

I looked at customer reviews on Amazon, and I found that many of them are complaining that Epson is getting the error "Auto Iris Failure". About the Panny are a few complains about black levels and lamp's life and price and also warranty support.

About the warranty, I won't use it because none of these 2 projectors are available in Europe. The only places where I found them for sale are Amazon and eBay from USA...so goodbye warranty.

Can you point me a few online shops from Europe that are selling these projectors?

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I had an absolutely horrible experience with a Panasonic product and non-existent support in the past. It was an LCD TV. I'll never purchase another Panasonic big ticket item.

Now it's possible I just got a lemon - and others have had better luck. But my TV was in the shop repeatedly totaling several months. The light engine finally failed and the extended warranty company bought me a new DLP TV which has been working great for a couple years now.
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After all, I narrowed the searches to Epson Home Cinema 3010 and Panasonic PT-AR100

Both are the best projectors under 2000$ in terms of brightness, but the Epson has 3D (with 2 pair of glasses) and internal speakers for 200$ more.

I want to know which one has better black levels, but I tend to think that Epson has.

The only DLPs that I like are Optoma HD33 (also 3D) and Benq W6000, but both are more expensive than Epson...even though I found an used Benq W6000 on eBay and I really like it for the image quality and black levels. What do you think?

But for me, the main question is:
Epson Home Cinema 3010 or Panasonic PT-AR100?
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And the winner is:

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Epson Home Cinema 3010

Best 2D and 3D projector for the money, the lamp is cheaper, has 2000 hours more than Panasonic, and has internal speakers.

I will buy it from eBay (1570$ with shipping), because it's the only option for shipping to Europe.

I think will be a good value for money if I compare it with my 2770$ Panasonic 50" plasma.
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I might be getting the same.....ONLY bad thing for me is NO LENS SHIFT!! This makes it a tough fit for my permanent screen. The guy that is doing my work says the 3010 is a great projector for the money!!
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I might be getting the same.....ONLY bad thing for me is NO LENS SHIFT!! This makes it a tough fit for my permanent screen. The guy that is doing my work says the 3010 is a great projector for the money!!

Indeed...for me it's the best PJ.
It would be stupid to get a PJ without 3D, because I have a 3D plasma that was double the price, and in terms of 3D it's dissapointing.

Do you know if 3010 has 2D-3D conversion?

The only problem left is that 3010 it's the US model. In Europe the same 3D PJ it's called EH-TW6000.

There is also a cheaper model called EH-TW5900, that has 200 lumens less, and half the contrast.

- TW5900 costs 1350$ with transport
- TW6000 (3010 version for Europe) costs 1660$ with transport
- 3010 costs 1570$ with transport, and maybe 20% tax, beeing bought from outside of Europe, meaning a total of 1710$

I am not sure about the tax, but if I have to pay it, it would be 50$ more; if I don't have to pay it, it would be 90$ cheaper to buy it from USA.

What to do? Get 3010 from USA, get TW6000 from Europe, or get the cheaper version from Europe and save 300$?
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