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post #1 of 33 Old 06-17-2012, 08:31 AM - Thread Starter
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I live in USA East Coast, Been watching these LED's for some time now, have never owned a Projector and want a LED. Kinda waiting for them to get the bugs out before I purchase since this will have to last a long time since I am financially embarrassed. AVS has been a huge help... thank you all very much ! Anywayz I’ve been googling the new LG's Vivitek Qumi and I happened to run across this site, does anyone know if this is really available and know the site in general ? If it is a reputable site ? This seems like a really decent price for what your getting


$799.99 Free Shipping
LG Electronics PA70G Portable HD LED Projector with 700 ANSI Lumens, 1280 x 800 WXGA Resolution, HDMI Port
http://www.adorama.com/LOPA70G.html



This one is cheaper then the Optoma LM500 ! $549.99 Free Shipping

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Guys ? Gals am I missing something here ? I am really excited about the prices is this for real or what ?


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i hope to have a review soon.
i have HW300 which is good, but black level is poor, means watching dark movies will be ruined.
i hope the one has a great black level
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i hope to have a review soon.
i have HW300 which is good, but black level is poor, means watching dark movies will be ruined.
i hope the one has a great black level


I have FOUR HW300Ts and I am simply awed by the picture. I watched a 110 inch (2.35) movie last night in my family room and I was amazed at the image. (I have a 200 inch image in the living room, 80 inches in the master bedroom and a 70 inch image in the guest bedroom.) The colour saturation, contrast and blacks (on a white wall) made me wonder if my projector had been swapped for something different. I temporarily doubled my projectors for a superb SBS 3D image and now I am trying to decide on DIY screens and possibly and DIY anamorphic lens.

I am looking to see if there is any real improvement in the "newer" projectors (other than increased lumens) because when I set up my 3D tests I found that I had to drastically reduce the light output (with the polarizers in place) on my small high gain screen.

I bought my projectors on sale at Fry's. I have been trying to figure out when the other shoe is going to drop mean that I must be overlooking something. I am still reading everything I can about LED projectors and I have found none of the issues that have plagued the other "clones" because when I carefully read descriptions of similar problems I realize that my issues are quite minor.

In fact, I've wondered if the late production runs of my models were actually sample runs for the newer models. BTW, even the onboard media play upscales so well that most of my standard def movies seem high def.

So what are you watching and are your settings that yield poor black levels? Oh, I do not have equipment to test my projectors. I am just going off what I see.
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I am a noob, but the first obvious improvement over the LG HW300T other then the lumens is the contrast. 1000:1 vs 10,000:1

I spent a lot of time yesterday trying to find a complete English data sheet / PDF and could find NONE. Saw a lot of German sites with info, so i did my best translating and came up with this list. This is my interpretation and may be errors . As far as I know this data applies to the LG PA70G & LG PB60G (only lower lumens 500)


LG PA70G

Details: LED projector / DLP projector / home theater projector / 3D Projector / HDMI Projector /
Resolution: 720p HD, Native WXGA (1280 x 800)
DLP-Link3D Ready120Hz
Brightness: 700 ANSI lumens
Contrast Ratio: 10,000: 1
Illumination: >85%
Color Representation: 16.7 million
Picture Formats: 4:3 / 16:9
Projection Distance: 1.02 - 1.20 m
Throw ratio (throw ratio): 1.40: 1
Diagonal Screen Size: 20 (0.51 m) - 100 (2.54 meters) in
Lamp life: 30,000 hours
Lamp Type: LED
Noise: 34 dB / Noise (Eco-Mode): 26 dB
Focus: manual
Ports: HDMI, VGA input (D-Sub), USB Type A, Mini Jack Input, Mini Jack Output
Playback Formats: Office Files, JPEG, MP3, videos, PDF
Use: Portable (for traveling), Multimedia (home theater)
Projection types: Ceiling Projection, Front Projection, Rear Projection / Lighting: 85%
Video Signals: NTSC, PAL, SECAM, HDTV, 1080p, 1080i, 720p, EDTV, 576p, 480p, SDTV, 576i, 480i
Features: integrated media player, Keystone correction (Keystone), Mute, Auto signal search, energy saving function, multi-language OSD, Kensington lock / zoom: solid
Keystone correction: vertical (± 15 ° ) automatic
Output: 2 x 3 Watt
Weight: 1.4 kg
Width: 230 mm
Height: 44 mm
Depth: 170 mm
Power Consumption in operation: 130 watts
Features: built-in speaker
Other - mercury-free design
Color Depth: 16.7 million colors
Color Space: 110% of NTSC
Technology: 0.45 "DMD DLP chip
External power supply

Operation: Power (Main / standby), mute, ceiling mount, Rückprofähig, auto, Source detection, auto positioning / tracking, Freeze, EcoMode, volume
GrafischesOSD: Power (Main / standby)
Remote Control: Volume
OSD languages: UK, DE, FR, ES, PT, SE, RU, JP, IT, CN, KR

Connections
Video PCEingang: 15PinD-Sub, HDMI, USBTypA
Video PCAusgang -
C-video input (RCA): yes (überVGA)
Component Input: yes (überVGA)
Audio Input: yes
Audio output: yes
Speaker output power: 2x3W
Power cable / Kensington: yes / yes

Accessories: VGA cable, manual, remote control, external power adapter, AV cable, RGB aufKomponenteKabel, polishing cloth, soft carry case

Service Warranty Device: 36month
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also throw ratio is improved a bit
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also throw ratio is improved a bit

Hey,thanks for the information. By “real improvement” I was referring to perceivable improvement.
These are the questions that I asked myself when I decided to buy four units knowing that there were “improved” models pending:
1. Although the maximum output is 700 lumens, what is the output in the quietest mode? How much noise is there when 700 lumens is output? What is the quality of the picture at 700 lumens? My bet is that the quietest output (economy mode) will be almost the same as my projectors.
2. Is there a perceivable difference between a contrast of 10000:1 and a contrast of 1000:1 in a room with white walls? (I am in the process of building DIY screens.)
3. How much improvement will I notice in the 2x3watt onboard speakers? Will there be an optical output or HDMI pass thru? If there is an ATSC tuner, will it have audio return channel?
4. Will the new model have zoom or lens shift? If not then the image size will be determined by distance. And more importantly, it will be very difficult to place the projector perpendicular to the screen so both the focus and geometry of the projected image will be effected.
5. Can I get a piece of mind warranty? I got an extra year with my Amex so my warranty is 36 months (Fry’s did not offer a warranty).
6. Can I do 3D? I initially bought two units (for about what I expect one of the new units to cost) and easily assembled a 3D playback setup that uses the same 3D glasses I got in the theater. So I have a spare 2D unit should I have any problems and very cheap 3D glasses.
7. What will I do with the projectors if the newer model is a “must” buy? I would use the projectors as TVs in my bedrooms. I am also considering a special (low dust) cage for my garage so that I can have a workshop computer with a big screen for viewing tutorials.
8. Can I watch my 1080 signals? The signals scale much better than my Epson HC720 so using the HW300T as an extension computer monitor works.

I don’t know what throw distance is.

I am interested the newer units but my guess is that the newer units will offer “slight” improvement to the HW300T especially considering that there are no ATSC versions offered yet.

If the newer units offer over 300 lumens in the “Economy” mode and a watch-able 3D image without the fan whirring like a hair blower (because it must be run in the highest lumen output) then I will seriously consider buying one.
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also throw ratio is improved a bit
That throw still kinda sucks, but at least its going in the right direction.

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That throw still kinda sucks, but at least its going in the right direction.

Can someone elaborate on the throw? What is desirable and what is the issue with this new projector in terms of throw? I am new to projectors and would like to mount one out of the way on my basement ceiling. Ceiling height is around 7 feet high from the floor. Thanks for any info.
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Can someone elaborate on the throw? What is desirable and what is the issue with this new projector in terms of throw? I am new to projectors and would like to mount one out of the way on my basement ceiling. Ceiling height is around 7 feet high from the floor. Thanks for any info.
Sorry about the confusion, It all depends on your setup really. I have a rear projection setup, so ultra short throw is preferred for me. Those using front projection may have a small room, but want a really big image, a shorter throw will allow them to do that, or maybe they want a very large image from their coffee table, going to need a short throw for that as well.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm
You can play around with the distance and screen sizes on that website, it will help you get a good understanding of throw ratio.

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Has no one bought/reviewed this yet? Seems awfully strange for a product of this type.
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I might bite if I could confirm LG USA would honor the warranty and it supported hdmi 1.4a... too rich for me to take a risk on either otherwise. LG USA chat support has stated they believe it is not a US model and will thus not honor the warranty... hopefully that is simply because it is not in their system yet?

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I wonder what he'd think about 3D IMAX?
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I have bought LG PA70G at cyberport.de before 2 days. They should stock it 28.06. 2012 they say. It will be my first projector ever. Are you interested in review?
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yes. when you get it in post a video the day you get it.
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yes. when you get it in post a video the day you get it.

my my aren't we demanding, can the poor guy enjoy is projector at least a day before posting a video?biggrin.gif
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You are on AVS. Of course, we are demanding! Duh biggrin.gif
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Sorry about the confusion, It all depends on your setup really. I have a rear projection setup, so ultra short throw is preferred for me. Those using front projection may have a small room, but want a really big image, a shorter throw will allow them to do that, or maybe they want a very large image from their coffee table, going to need a short throw for that as well.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm
You can play around with the distance and screen sizes on that website, it will help you get a good understanding of throw ratio.

I did some calculations. The LG PA70G throw ratio mentioned in the specs provided further above is 1.40 to 1. The max diagonal screen size is 100 inches. 100 inches converts to a max screen width of 87 inches. 87 inches = 7.25 foot screen width. Finally, based on the 1.4:1 throw ratio, to achieve the max 7.25 foot screen width, the projector would need to be placed 10.15 foot from the screen wall. (Math is not exactly my strength, so anyone let me know if I am missing something.)

Since my basement is approx 12 feet from front to back wall, seems like this LG projector with its 1.4:1 throw ratio should work fine? I assume other than possible noise, having the projector ceiling mounted near the rear wall would be ideal, to get it out of the way?
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Honzik1,

I was wondering if you received your LG PA70G projector yet and if so could you give your thoughts on it.

Thanks !

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Honzik1,
I was wondering if you received your LG PA70G projector yet and if so could you give your thoughts on it.
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Hi,
cyberport hasnt stock it yet. I hope it will be in few days. As soon as I recieve it, I will make here a fast review/preview!
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Just saw PA70G in stock for $799 @ my local Frys.

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Just saw PA70G in stock for $799 @ my local Frys.

Which Fry's? Didn't see any at Sunnyvale yesterday.

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I wonder what he'd think about 3D IMAX?
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Sunnyvale, it is in the home theatre section where the blu-ray players are, instead of the projector section next to the Apple products biggrin.gif
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Which Fry's? Didn't see any at Sunnyvale yesterday.
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USA Amazon now carry's the LG PA70G, $799.99 say's 2 to 5 week delivery. Something interesting, from previous research I found the unit to have 10,000:1 contrast ratio now they are saying 15,000:1 contrast ratio... coolies

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-PA70G-Micro-Portable-Projector/dp/B008FJXIS4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1342371533&sr=1-1&keywords=lg+pa70g


They also carry the LG PB60G:

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-PB60G-Micro-Portable-Projector/dp/B008FJXIJS/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1342371468&sr=1-2&keywords=lg+pb60g
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I live in USA East Coast, Been watching these LED's for some time now, have never owned a Projector and want a LED. Kinda waiting for them to get the bugs out before I purchase since this will have to last a long time since I am financially embarrassed. AVS has been a huge help... thank you all very much ! Anywayz I’ve been googling the new LG's Vivitek Qumi and I happened to run across this site, does anyone know if this is really available and know the site in general ? If it is a reputable site ? This seems like a really decent price for what your getting
$799.99 Free Shipping
LG Electronics PA70G Portable HD LED Projector with 700 ANSI Lumens, 1280 x 800 WXGA Resolution, HDMI Port
http://www.adorama.com/LOPA70G.html
This one is cheaper then the Optoma LM500 ! $549.99 Free Shipping
LG Electronics PB60G Portable HD LED Projector with 500 ANSI Lumens, 1280 x 800 WXGA Resolution, HDMI Port
http://www.adorama.com/LOPB60G.html
http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Audio%20Visual&cat2=Multimedia%20Projectors%20%26%20Display%20Monitors&cat3=Multimedia%20Projectors&feature1=LG%20Electronics
Guys ? Gals am I missing something here ? I am really excited about the prices is this for real or what ?
Thanks !
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Get one for yourself and test it in your room!
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I might bite if I could confirm LG USA would honor the warranty and it supported hdmi 1.4a... too rich for me to take a risk on either otherwise. LG USA chat support has stated they believe it is not a US model and will thus not honor the warranty... hopefully that is simply because it is not in their system yet?

I spoke with LG customer service a couple of days ago. The LG PA70G supports HDMI 1.4 (and requires it for 3D modes).
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biggrin.gif Finally pulled the trigger yesterday (Friday 11/30/12). Fry's sold the LG PA70G for $399 Free Shipping ! Can't wait to try my first projector out. Merry Christmas to me. smile.gif

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biggrin.gif Finally pulled the trigger yesterday (Friday 11/30/12). Fry's sold the LG PA70G for $399 Free Shipping ! Can't wait to try my first projector out. Merry Christmas to me. smile.gif
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from frys website:
Shipping: Available In-Store Only
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Frys $399 I got free UPS ground shipping Friday


Ive been watching this at Frys for a few months, seems like a lot of Fridays this has FREE Ground Shipping or pay shipping then Saturday comes and it is back to "in store only" and eventually goes back to $799. If anyone wants this projector from Frys, I would check the site a couple times a day like I did. This $399 sale is on through Thursday December 6th I believe. If you miss the $399 price then you may still get it for $449 which is still a great deal !
It is crazy how cheap they are selling it compared to everyone else, kind of makes me wonder why and how they can do it. Does anyone know the reason ?

The only bad thing is if you don't like it and want to send it back, I believe they charge a 15% restock fee, I could be wrong on that, but I think I read other users say that, but at $399 how can you go wrong.


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$399 FREE Shipping Friday 12/14/12 For those of you that can never catch a break on the sale here you go !

Frys is the place again !

I bought mine for $399 November 30, build date is November 2012. I absolutely love it. No focus issues, no problems at all. Money is tight here and $399 is a lot for me right now, but I have no regrets at all and I was aware of the problems others talked about and was prepared to pull out a screw driver and modify it, but it. was NOT necessary. If your going to pull the trigger, this is the time !

I am blown away with how sharp this is. I loaded Avatar and saw things I never saw before, using HDMI and on VIVID mode, PC, absolutely blew me away and was jaw dropping. I feel bad for those that are sick of the problems mostly focus with there projector. I got lucky and is my first projector with 96 inches of viewing on my wall. When i first got it, I was NOT blown away and I used RBG cord w/dark rips in the day time from a PC. I wanted it to be brighter but here is the thing, most movies are dark to begin with, if I am working on desktop it is bright for day time use. I want to eventually use for TV and I know will be bright enough for 24/7 viewing. Personally I would recommend this projector even for computer surfing. I noticed that Linux font is not bad at all, but I have been using Vista for viewing movies and as much as I hate Vista, it works great with this projector. If I had the money, I would probably buy another to have on hand at this price. I have been waiting so long to get a projector, I am glad I pulled the trigger !


I started the thread for the LG PA70G and it sorta got hijacked which is fine, and the other thread is way better with a lot of information, I just thought I would make this final post and tell all of you looking it was a really good purchase for me and i would do it again.


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Hi,
I am a newbie. I just joined and purchased the LG PA70G. I am installing it in my basement Theatre Room and was wondering what would be the easiest way to view in 3D mode. Is there a certain Blu-Ray player I need to buy? Is a computer required. Thanks in advance for your replies!
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