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Hi folks...

I currently have an Epson 1080 UB projector...it is 4 to 5 years old...When I built my media room I was really in to watching movies, but no so much anymore...I find all I want to watch now is HD NHL Hockey...I find i do get motion blur with my Epson 1080 UB while watching HD hockey and it drives me crazy...BTW I have been exceptionally impressed watching movies!

Based on the above I'm looking to replace my Epson 1080UB...What would you recommend for the best projector for HD hockey (fast motion sports) that has zero blurr...looking to spend between $800-$1500...is it a dlp 120 hz solution or is there another solution...What brand etc.....thanks in advance folks...
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DLP in my opinion is your best bet. The fastest LCD's change a single pixel full white to full black in 2ms and DLP is .8ms that is a huge advantage to DLP for fast movement video. There are manyDLP's in that price range, what size screen and in a light controled room or some lights left on?

Some to look into are the Mitsubishi HC4000, Optoma HD33 or HD20, Acer H6500, BenQ W6000 (if can be found) and Viewsonics Pro8200. Sure there are a few I am missing but those are a few I recomend reading into a bit.
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DLP is where you want to be, assuming you are not sensitive to DLP rainbows. 5 and 6 times color wheels reduce or eliminate rainbows for most.. Check out this thread, lots of work went into it and it will answer most of your questions.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1391476/coderguys-top-projector-picks/0_60
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Thanks folks, ok, if the answer is DLP, do u feel the 120hz option is necessary or is plain ol' DLP good enuf? Thanks again...
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Sorry 106 inch screen, light controlled room...thanks
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Plain ole DLP should be good enough, they do not broadcast hockey in 120hz. Some may do what is called frame interpolation to help smooth things out, some call it the soap opera effect.

Personal opinion of course but I would likely lean towards a HC4000 if 2D hockey is largest content, I do not see rainbows though. The HD33 has a faster color wheel so less likely to see rainbows with it, is also 3D capable if you ever get ino that. I think both would handle hockey the same though. Coderguy may have some better thoughts on that though.
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Sorry, that is what I meant, should I get a DLP with frame interpolation...? Is pure motion engine on the hd33 the same thing?
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I have an HC3000 which came out in 2004 and hockey is perfect on it, no motion issues ever.. DLP is just billions times faster than LCD..
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Sorry, that is what I meant, should I get a DLP with frame interpolation...? Is pure motion engine on the hd33 the same thing?

Yes what Optoma is calling Pure Motion is FI. Some dig it some do not. I like it for 3D but not so much in 2D. Is a personal opinion thing and peoples choice to have it on or off varies a lot and some choose it for certain content and off for others. Only way to know is to try it really and some products perform different then others.
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Thanks folks, so I guess what I have to do is go see a DLP in action to see if I can see RBE...or Costco has a 90 turn policy and they carry both the Mits and hd33...just gotta wait til hockey season to evaluate...go Bruins go...thanks folks...
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Thanks folks, so I guess what I have to do is go see a DLP in action to see if I can see RBE...or Costco has a 90 turn policy and they carry both the Mits and hd33...just gotta wait til hockey season to evaluate...go Bruins go...thanks folks...

Is that just at your store? I don't see the HD33 on the Costco website.

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I am in Canada....it is on the Costco.ca website, I believe...
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Sorry folks, forgot to ask, are there any outboard video processors I could use for my Epson 1080 UB?
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Video processor to do what exactly?
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Video processors so my hd hockey is not blurred...I hear the weakness of the Epson line is poorer video processing...as an example I was able to view a panny 7000 today with hd hockey, still picked some blurr up but it was much improved over the Epson...BTW, is that a typo the previous poster posted?
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Sorry, I guess the darbee darlet is for real...I thought it was someones spellchecker that kicked in by mistake...sorry...
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sorry for such a delayed response...it'll just bring out all the detail you can get

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Thanks...I'm just not sure if that will fix he motion blur issue...that would mean it has more detail to refresh and blur, wouldn't it? Perhaps making the issue worse?
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I know of nothing that will help with the blur issue on your current projector. Are you watching it in HD or SD? If is HD then I know of nothing but if is SD a processor that upscales it may help. Think the blur your seeing if HD content is the LCD pixels lagging, nothing can speed them up, may be able to fuz it so less pixel looking but not sure.
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Thanks, all viewing in HD...
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I bought a Benq W1200 last year! Watch tons of hockey! No rainbows - Frame interpolation on low - Smooth as silk!!!
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Sounds like DLP is the ticket...thanks
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The Acer 9500 is DLP, it had frame interpolation, it has good contrast, and it has 3D for when you want it. It is priced about the same as the Optoma HD33 - within your range. Frame interpolation should add to the enjoyment, given that Hockey is fast fast. Hockey is no soap opera, and it is one place where you want stark, vivid realism.
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Acer does have darker blacks with the IRIS.
Optoma hd33 has better color calibration controls.
Optoma hd33 has 6x color wheel, Acer has a 4x color wheel.
They both have FI, not sure which one has the better FI, I think probably the Optoma (but not certain).


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