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I tried to post all of that firmware 1.05 stuff zipped up but it will not let me... use at your own risk (may void warranty?).

Looks like the service manual is in there.

I scanned all of it and it appears legit (but ???).

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i just sent mine in to be updated
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Try this this site it will tell you everything about the Pj.


http://www.projectorcentral.com/benq_w1070_3d_home_video_projector_review.htm

FYI: Projectorreviews.com is a much better resource for info. projectorcentral doesn't go into anywhere near as much detail. Their reviews are about a quarter of the size of the projector reviews reviews.

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Yeah image noise is a little more apparent than with the other DLPs I've owned (mits hc4000, hc3800, Acer HD9500BD). The BenQ is also a good deal sharper however, and consequently shows more source noise, if present. Haven't tried increasing the noise reduction setting as yet.

Curious, do you prefer the picture of the Acer H9500BD or the BenQ W1070?

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Anyone have problems getting a screwdriver on the lens shift screw? It seems my screw is broken as it does not resemble any screw known to me? Is it flat ,robinson,philips? It looks like it may have been flat at one time?
Anyway I tried getting needle nose plyers on it to turn it but the thing will not budge. Clockwise or counter clockwise it will not turn so I can't use the lens shift. This is new out of the box.
Nice picture otherwise! I m coming from 6 years with a IN 76 INFOCUS which cost 3 times as much back then!

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I wouldn't be surprised at all if 4k budget projectors arrive within a couple years, at a similar price, thanks to this very model on the market. The w1070 is going to kick so many other PJs off the charts, and it can only drive prices down across the board. With pico projectors and cell-phone projectors, companies like BenQ will have to offer us something substantially better each year to push us towards upgrading, and I think that's going to be 4k within two years, for maybe $2k.

anyway, I bought it on impulse and so glad I did. I sold my TV and never went back. As far as the blacks being LCD-like, I guess that's a very fair comparison. I used to loathe LCDs for that reason, but at least this dlp has great motion and little input lag and cross talk in 3D. So in those respects, it's closer to a plasma. Also, no viewing angle limitations either, bigger size for much cheaper...better bang for your buck...yep, definitely more a plasma type thing, except for blacks of course!

As much as I hope you're right, I think you are being extremely optimistic with thinking that 4k prices will come down that low, that quickly lol. There is only one available now and it's $25k. I'd be ecstatic if there is a $6k 4k projector in 2yrs.

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I think I've finished my $2000 budget bedroom theater now biggrin.gif. Time to never leave the room!

BenQ W1070 Projector ($950)
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The projector has already been here for a week and I love it, everything else is shipping. I picked everything thanks to recommendations throughout the forums so thank you AVS!
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Hello! Sorry for my english, I'm from Russia. No one has yet tried to update the firmware to version 1.05? ftp://62.141.76.120/driver/projectors/w1070 or https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B_xTFybwtlbvU1oxdHRNcWd3LTQ/edit

Does anyone know what firmware v. 1.05 offers over 1.04, etc.?

Thanks for uploading the BenQ firmware file. I downloaded all of the files in the folder - which included the service manuals, etc. It seems that the 1.05 firmware update is an IMG file. I read the firmware update institutions (page 49) in the service manual. It doesn't seem as simple as I would expect. There is a program called DLP Composer that looks like it is to be used in conjunction with the firmware update. It appears that all of the data supplied in the folder is legit, but unless I know what I'm doing here I will hold off until it seems "doable".

BenQ replaced my unit with version 1.03 with one running 1.04 due to a "flicker" issue. My new unit with 1.04 still will flicker occasionally -- but I think it might be due to the loose fitting HDMI port. But, in the event that the new 1.05 is related to this issue, then I might update if anyone can confirm the proper way to do the update.

Any thoughts?

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My guess: You need to have "Super White" enabled on the PS3 ... If that doesn't work, then it's probably the W1070 doing the clipping.
I have Super Whit on all the time. Using the Spears & Munsill calibration discs, it seems to have failed the pluge, contrast, and clipping patterns. It's a shame really. This projector seems to be more of a computer projector really, anything in 0-255 it performs brilliantly.

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Dots, or sparkles? Sparklies can be from a hdmi cable/weak signal.
I'm not sure but if I did see dots it would be a permanent thing right, because it's one of the pixel mirrors stuck. That wouldn't fix itself.

After seeing it I may upgrade my cable to a little bit more decent with a stronger looking cable.

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As much as I hope you're right, I think you are being extremely optimistic with thinking that 4k prices will come down that low, that quickly lol. There is only one available now and it's $25k. I'd be ecstatic if there is a $6k 4k projector in 2yrs.

$6K for a 4K projector in a couple of years? I think that's very possible. Process technology moves very fast - - think back two years ago and I do not believe there was anything close to the BenQ W1070 or W1080ST offering - - in price, features and performance.

A bigger issue to me is 4K content - - I do not see a lot of investment by major carriers to increase the "pipe" or bandwidth to everyone's home - - so the improvement will have to be in compression algorithms - - which is happening as we speak.

I betcha that within five years (which should be the lifespan of a good projector?) - - you'll see under $5K - 4K projectors without any doubt.

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$6K for a 4K projector in a couple of years? I think that's very possible. Process technology moves very fast - - think back two years ago and I do not believe there was anything close to the BenQ W1070 or W1080ST offering - - in price, features and performance.

A bigger issue to me is 4K content - - I do not see a lot of investment by major carriers to increase the "pipe" or bandwidth to everyone's home - - so the improvement will have to be in compression algorithms - - which is happening as we speak.

I betcha that within five years (which should be the lifespan of a good projector?) - - you'll see under $5K - 4K projectors without any doubt.

I know $6k in 2yrs is possible. I don't think it's likely, but it's definitely possible. What I was saying is that $2k in 2yrs is extremely doubtful.

It should be possible. It's a fact that it doesn't cost much more to produce a 4k display than it does a 2k one. With existing tech that is, not counting OLED. So we should have affordable 4k TVs right now, yet we don't, and we won't, for a while.

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Has anyone actually tried the BenQ D3 glasses? I know they are hard to come by, but B&H has them for not much more than the True Depths. If they are even better at blocking red flash, then it seems like it would be worth the extra $30 or so.

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Has anyone actually tried the BenQ D3 glasses? I know they are hard to come by, but B&H has them for not much more than the True Depths. If they are even better at blocking red flash, then it seems like it would be worth the extra $30 or so.

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I know $6k in 2yrs is possible. I don't think it's likely, but it's definitely possible. What I was saying is that $2k in 2yrs is extremely doubtful.

It should be possible. It's a fact that it doesn't cost much more to produce a 4k display than it does a 2k one. With existing tech that is, not counting OLED. So we should have affordable 4k TVs right now, yet we don't, and we won't, for a while.

Good point - - but as someone who has a dual setup (65" LCD/LED Samsung) to be coupled with the W1080ST BenQ projector - - I think the golden age of projectors is upon us.

Looking at CES and the ridiculous prices of 4K and OLED TV's - - $25K for a 55" set? Who are they kidding? What "suite spot" do they think they are hitting with those prices?

I know the technology will get better but OLED is a real hit and miss, manufacturing wise. Too many bum panels.

I guess my main point (and besides being excited about my first projector) is that for larger displays - - over 65" - - I do not think you can match the price performance, features and benefits of projector technology.

If there is going to be a breakthrough on 4K, price wise, I think it will be in the projector arena. I just don't see OLED or 4K LED TV's coming down in price that fast - - relative to the technological & manufacturing hurdles.

Besides - - it's a lot easier to get a projector and screen down to my man cave than it is a bulky LCD/LED panel - - no matter how thin it is!smile.gif

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I can't find a deal on one of these anywhere. It seems like its priced at retail everywhere. Any suggestions?

Who cares about 4k? I really don't think the public cares.
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I can't find a deal on one of these anywhere. It seems like its priced at retail everywhere. Any suggestions?

Who cares about 4k? I really don't think the public cares.

I care about 4k VERY MUCH lol. As great as it is having a 110" screen, the con of having a bigger screen is seeing more imperfections that you don't see on a 58" screen.

I'll have a 4k projector the second I can afford one and 4k BDs are plentiful.

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Has anyone actually tried the BenQ D3 glasses? I know they are hard to come by, but B&H has them for not much more than the True Depths. If they are even better at blocking red flash, then it seems like it would be worth the extra $30 or so.

Never mind. Just realized the D3's aren't rechargeable. True Depth's it is, I guess lol.

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I can't find a deal on one of these anywhere. It seems like its priced at retail everywhere. Any suggestions?

Who cares about 4k? I really don't think the public cares.

$976.99 on Amazon today. Probably one of the lower prices around unless you can find a dealer that is doing promo's or has extra stock - - but not likely with the demand of these projectors right now.

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I have Super Whit on all the time. Using the Spears & Munsill calibration discs, it seems to have failed the pluge, contrast, and clipping patterns. It's a shame really. This projector seems to be more of a computer projector really, anything in 0-255 it performs brilliantly.

Anything else in the signal path: receiver, switches/splitters, processors, etc?
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Hello! Sorry for my english, I'm from Russia. No one has yet tried to update the firmware to version 1.05? ftp://62.141.76.120/driver/projectors/w1070 or https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B_xTFybwtlbvU1oxdHRNcWd3LTQ/edit

THANK YOU !!! after reading the service manual and all the pieces inside, I am all the move impressed by this PJ.

I too would like to see the list of fixes. I guess it's time to pick up an RS232 cable. b/c now we can all share our firmwares, once whichever version fixes anamorphic stretching in frame packing 3D, I'm upgrading it. I might even look to hacking this firmware one day, but I have other more important things to do. Important news is that we don't have to send in our projectors to BenQ just for them to run the exact same program you just shared with us.
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Has anyone actually tried the BenQ D3 glasses? I know they are hard to come by, but B&H has them for not much more than the True Depths. If they are even better at blocking red flash, then it seems like it would be worth the extra $30 or so.

I have a pair of these on the way. I have the original BQ DLP's (very uncomfortable) but 1/2 decent at blocking the red flash. 2nd gen BQ - very lightweight and comfortable, but terrible at blocking the red flash. Let's see if the 3rd try works well.

The benchmark is the Optoma ZD201's which are nearly flawless at blocking the red flash. I'll post some feedback in my shootout thread in the 3K+ forum.
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I know $6k in 2yrs is possible. I don't think it's likely, but it's definitely possible. What I was saying is that $2k in 2yrs is extremely doubtful.

It should be possible. It's a fact that it doesn't cost much more to produce a 4k display than it does a 2k one. With existing tech that is, not counting OLED. So we should have affordable 4k TVs right now, yet we don't, and we won't, for a while.
I would be surprised if we get 4k for $10k in two years. But we don't really need 4k sources to benefit right now. Just the 4k projector right now would be a huge difference, I just hope the new hdmi is figured out by that time
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Can someone please tell me what type of screw head you have on your particular W1070 unit?
The lens shift screw that is.
Mine is just a broken screw...
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I have a pair of these on the way. I have the original BQ DLP's (very uncomfortable) but 1/2 decent at blocking the red flash. 2nd gen BQ - very lightweight and comfortable, but terrible at blocking the red flash. Let's see if the 3rd try works well.

The benchmark is the Optoma ZD201's which are nearly flawless at blocking the red flash. I'll post some feedback in my shootout thread in the 3K+ forum.

There is no version of those Optoma's that works with 144hz though, correct?

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Can someone please tell me what type of screw head you have on your particular W1070 unit?
The lens shift screw that is.
Mine is just a broken screw...

That screw has a plain slot and is special made

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They can't consistently align LCD/LCos panels to take full advantage of 1080p resolution.
Maybe 4K/UltraHD makes most sense for our $1000 DLP's...ah, but then again we have those cheap aberrant lenses.

To do this level of resolution properly is not easy or inexpensive.
These under $1000 do have cheap lenses. For a 4k projector, the panels and lense will cost a lot
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Guy's Sound & Vision magazine April & May 2013 vol., has a review of the BenQ W 1070, they gave a good review of the projector Under the Review BOTTOM LINE " states that the projector is a rare breed It offers good performance while being one of the least expensive 1080p-rez3D also states that W1070 offers 70% of the performance of projectors $3,000-$4,000 for less"

To me that makes me more satisfied that picked this PJ.

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Thanks Auric!
My so called special made screw has a head that is partially broken off...
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Anything else in the signal path: receiver, switches/splitters, processors, etc?
Nope.100% source to Projector.

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