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What about tax?

tax was extra, plus a $3.50 eco fee
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tax was extra, plus a $3.50 eco fee

Just bought mine. It was $1012 with GST, PST and Eco fee.

Since Costco has a 90-day refund policy. I'll be returning the w1070 that I bought 2 months ago, which was $1124.

I'm more than happy to get two free pairs of glasses and $112 back ... Which I will now put towards a Darbee. Thank you Costco :-)
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Just ordered from BestBuy in US. $929 plus local tax of $50. Went through Upromise, so that will give me 5.5% back. I am a silver member so I will get another $25 in rewards and get me close to silver for next year. Used all gift cards and reward certificates from various deals, so nothing out of pocket. I also get free expedited shipping and 60 day return/price protection at BB as silver. So if it doesn't work out I will do an easy return and not need to ship it back. This one may be a bit difficult to mount. It may just barely give me the vertical lens shift I need. It will basically be sitting upside down on heat duct framing right above my head. It will be sitting on its controls, so hopefully the infrared will still come through to it OK. I had decided I really don't need 3D, but the 8350 is more expensive at this time and may be a bit more difficult for me to mount, even with the lens shift, due to its larger size and the room I have available.
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Kraine's review of HD25 using RF in 3D have alot more superior / smoother 3D quality compared to IR in W1070. Both 144Hz

Is this just a personal opinion, or a fact because of technical reasons?

He wasn't able to measure and proof the tripple flash capabilitys (that was done by a german) so where does this info comes from.

Does anybody else has complained about the "not smooth" 3D quality of the W1070 ??
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I own both the W1070 and HD25. Both have an equal smooth 3D quality, because there is no difference in the motion: Both use 144Hz Triple flash DLP.
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hello,

it is a bit off topic, but I am sure you know the answers.
could you please confirm that both benq w1080st and w770st have

DLP Dark Chip 3 with 6-Segment (RGBRGB) Color Wheel and 6X (50Hz) Color Wheel Speed?

the fact that w770st has 13000 contrast and w1080st has 10000 can be from a different chip or it is due to the different resolution (720p vs 1080p)?

which one would you recommend (no experience yet with projectors)? Beside 2d movies, I would sometimes watch photos too..

thanks a lot!
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I can confirm that my W1070 does 3D beautifully.
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Come on. Be brave. Join the club. I just ordered my third from Costco.ca this morning.
Great picture, great price and besides, I NEED the reduced throw distance to work in my small room. Kind of locks me in I'm afraid.
Thankfully Costco has a 90 day return for refund policy and increases the warranty to two years.
The sale price with glasses = can't pass it up.

"Three times the charm." I'm hoping.

Thanks to those who have written in the last few days to give their hour count and thumbs up.
Helps to balance out the reports from the poor suckers like me who aren't quite so lucky.

FWIW, and for some who may require a longer throw,the HD25 with 2 sets of glasses was listed
on the website on Friday, for a couple hours, then disappeared. I called them this morning and
spoke to a very nice rep who told me there was a link problem, and that it will be listed again
today....don't know price frown.gif

I'm so close to pulling the trigger on the W1070, but really like the longer throw on the HD25, as
I'm replacing a unit, which means way less hassle to install, and not having to buy a new mount,
and relocate.

Item #678025

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Saw that. Anyone here uses it? How is it? Thanks.
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A few questions for folk who use a HTPC as source for this pj. I have an AMD 6670 video card that has its own setting (ITC processing,GPU scaling, pull down detection, color vibrancy, brighter white, flesh tone correction, dynamic range, video gamma, deinterlacing, enable dynamic contrast, enforce smooth video playback, LCD overdrive, etc...).
1. How do you set it up with your W1070 which also has some of those adjustments?
2. I set my PC to 1080p 60hz to have best possible 2D mkv ripped 1080p movies. When watching 3D SBS movies, I have to manually change my PC resolution to 1080i and to 1080p/24Hz for 3D over and under and then back to 1080p/60Hz for 2D. Is there an easy way to do this? What is the W1070 3D setting Auto used for as I cannot select it.
Thanks a lot.
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2. I set my PC to 1080p 60hz to have best possible 2D mkv ripped 1080p movies. When watching 3D SBS movies, I have to manually change my PC resolution to 1080i and to 1080p/24Hz for 3D over and under and then back to 1080p/60Hz for 2D. Is there an easy way to do this? What is the W1070 3D setting Auto used for as I cannot select it.
Thanks a lot.

Not sure if there is a setting on the projector to do it, but my video player(PowerDVD 13 Ultra) automatically switches my resolution for me when viewing 3D then back afterwards.
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Every time I think I am about ready to pull the plug and buy this projector, some issue gets discussed that makes me nervous all over again! If this is a known and common issue and they won't address it, I don't think I want to mess with it!


Every PJ has small issues they are called bugs but just about all of them are easy to solve and for the money YOU will not get a better projector with 2D & 3D, plain and simple.

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Every PJ has small issues they are called bugs but just about all of them are easy to solve and for the money YOU will not get a better projector with 2D & 3D, plain and simple.

I agree that it seems there is not a better projector out there for the price. And I do understand all PJ's have small issues. The part that concerned me was that people have been told by BenQ to live with it and there is nothing that can be done when one side of the screen appears brighter than the other. That is the one thing I'm getting hung up on, otherwise it is no contest for me between this PJ and others.
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Anyone have any advice on where to purchase or does it not matter? Amazon has it for the typical price of $929 and just checked Best Buy's website and they have it right now on sale for $916.98.

Do you recommend an extended warrany through Square Trade or is it one of those deals where they don't cover much?
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I agree that it seems there is not a better projector out there for the price. And I do understand all PJ's have small issues. The part that concerned me was that people have been told by BenQ to live with it and there is nothing that can be done when one side of the screen appears brighter than the other. That is the one thing I'm getting hung up on, otherwise it is no contest for me between this PJ and others.

I have to imagine that the problem must be pretty faint, otherwise BenQ would/will have a class-action lawsuit on their hands.

I'm new to this also and let me tell you, once you see it fired up and pointed at your screen you'll forget anything about the multitude of problems listed here or anywhere else. I definitely feel that way. We never imagined we'd use the PJ as much as we do. It was bought for occasional viewing and we already have over 40-hours in less than a week with friends/family coming over to watch movies and eat popcorn smile.gif. One of my friends went with us to watch Star Trek last week and said the PJ in our home looks better than the theater. No matter what you get, you won't regret it. I wish I could change a few things about this stupid PJ, but despite the annoyances, I can't go back to just a regular TV (for practical reasons as well, but I don't regret it, that's for sure).

There, hope that puts your mind at ease. If not, buy it somewhere where you can easily return it and see if you like the picture. You'll get spoiled rather quickly, methinks wink.gif
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I think most of this PJ's problems are not fixable, such as non-uniform focusing, non-uniform brightness, CA, loose HDMI plug, rattling fan, etc. These are hardware and can only be exchanged.

But it also depends on how fussy you are. I changed my first one for non-uniform focusing and fan noise, but they are quite minor and I can certainly live with them. In fact, the focus issue won't be noticed on movies, it's only occured in test patterns.

My second one has largely fixed both issues, but it still has some CA, in particular on the left most part, where there could be 1/3 pixel width of purple to the right of white line. Again, this only occurs in test pattern and fonts. For budget optics I'll live with it.
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This one:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/projectors/1761516-benq-w1070-reviewer-s-recommended-best-settings.html

But I need to bring up the contrast and bring down the brightness to make it more "pop", and increase saturation by 10 clicks on each color helps a little. Color is now more vivid yet still retains the film like quality.
May I ask what is your contrast and brightness setting now? Is the setting provided in the link for both 2 and 3D?
By increasing saturation by 10 clicks on each color, you mean:

Setting from link: "Red - Hue 50/Gain 52/Saturation 49, Green - H 64/G 48/S 50, Blue - H 52/G 47/S 50, Cyan - H 50/G 47/S 50, Magenta - H 70/G 51/S 50, Yellow - H 64/G 50/S 47"
Yours: Red - Hue 50/Gain 52/Saturation 59, Green - H 64/G 48/S 60, Blue - H 52/G 47/S 60, Cyan - H 50/G 47/S 60, Magenta - H 70/G 51/S 60, Yellow - H 64/G 50/S 57
Am I correct? Thanks.
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This one:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/projectors/1761516-benq-w1070-reviewer-s-recommended-best-settings.html

But I need to bring up the contrast and bring down the brightness to make it more "pop", and increase saturation by 10 clicks on each color helps a little. Color is now more vivid yet still retains the film like quality.
May I ask what is your contrast and brightness setting now? Are the setting provided in the link for just 2D or it can be applied for 3D as well?
By increasing saturation by 10 clicks on each color, you mean:

Setting from link: "Red - Hue 50/Gain 52/Saturation 49, Green - H 64/G 48/S 50, Blue - H 52/G 47/S 50, Cyan - H 50/G 47/S 50, Magenta - H 70/G 51/S 50, Yellow - H 64/G 50/S 47"
Yours: Red - Hue 50/Gain 52/Saturation 59, Green - H 64/G 48/S 60, Blue - H 52/G 47/S 60, Cyan - H 50/G 47/S 60, Magenta - H 70/G 51/S 60, Yellow - H 64/G 50/S 57
Am I correct? Thanks.
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Yours: Red - Hue 50/Gain 52/Saturation 59, Green - H 64/G 48/S 60, Blue - H 52/G 47/S 60, Cyan - H 50/G 47/S 60, Magenta - H 70/G 51/S 60, Yellow - H 64/G 50/S 57
Am I correct? Thanks.

Pretty much.

3D requires a LOT of light, and it is still not too bright for me. Now I have to reduce the screen size from 135" to 125" to be bearable.

I asked the question but no one answered. 3D glass blocks a lot of light. Does better glasses brighter?
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Pretty much.

3D requires a LOT of light, and it is still not too bright for me. Now I have to reduce the screen size from 135" to 125" to be bearable.

I asked the question but no one answered. 3D glass blocks a lot of light. Does better glasses brighter?

The Benq glass are probably the brightest available by a small amount. The lower priced 3d TV black sold on Amazon also are not bad. The Benq 1070 is one of the brightest projectors around. That being said, unless you have a light controlled dark room you probably will not be happy with 3d. I would also think that 135" may be too large to work unless you use a screen with higher gain. I suggest you check out the screen forum for suggestions.
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Pretty much.

3D requires a LOT of light, and it is still not too bright for me. Now I have to reduce the screen size from 135" to 125" to be bearable.

I asked the question but no one answered. 3D glass blocks a lot of light. Does better glasses brighter?
Thanks so much. I already like the picture out of the box but will try those settings. I have a 110" screen and to me 3D looks pretty darn good.
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Thanks, just saved another $13.50 with price protection at BestBuy. I would say BestBuy if your close to them instead of Amazon. You can go through a portal such as Discover or Upromise and get another 5% off, plus you get 2% in reward points from BestBuy, so that takes care of Tax and you have a much easier return option. If Amazon taxes you, as they will be doing in my state next month, then BestBuy is even a better deal.
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Thanks, just saved another $13.50 with price protection at BestBuy. I would say BestBuy if your close to them instead of Amazon. You can go through a portal such as Discover or Upromise and get another 5% off, plus you get 2% in reward points from BestBuy, so that takes care of Tax and you have a much easier return option. If Amazon taxes you, as they will be doing in my state next month, then BestBuy is even a better deal.

I was reading about Upromise. It seems that is only money back towards college? I am out of graduate school and none of my loans are eligible according to Upromise. Is there another way to use that site and just get 5% cash back?
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Home Theater Magazine reviews the W1070 this month (Jul-Aug).

Edit: Not a top pick, but expected as they consider entry level projectors to start at just under 3k.

I think it's past time to upgrade my equipment and my room.
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I agree that it seems there is not a better projector out there for the price. And I do understand all PJ's have small issues. The part that concerned me was that people have been told by BenQ to live with it and there is nothing that can be done when one side of the screen appears brighter than the other. That is the one thing I'm getting hung up on, otherwise it is no contest for me between this PJ and others.


Sorry was not aware of that issue that BenQ is ignoring, if you buy the PJ and it has that issue exchanged it or get a extended warranty on the PJ they are reasonable in price.

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Sorry was not aware of that issue that BenQ is ignoring, if you buy the PJ and it has that issue exchanged it or get a extended warranty on the PJ they are reasonable in price.

Get it exchanged. If you have a problem speak to second level tech support
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We just bought a new home with a finished basement room of 22' x 32'. I knew a projector was in my future so I did some research and I put the BenQ W1070 on my short list. I then was tempted by the Epson 8350, because of cheap replacement bulb price, LCD and the good pro reviews. I read the consumer reviews and it seemed plagued by problems. I then saw a Optoma HD25 at a local home theater store and was excited about how good the picture looked. But, with no lens shift, I would be limited to limited placement options. I'm back on the BenQ W1070 train and now I'm trying to figure how big of a screen I can go in my room.

I'm thinking of keeping my 55" Panasonic plasma and use a motorized screen in front of it. Have any of you tried this option? Is having a TV and a projector a good idea?
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