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I was hoping that it did shoot straight like the w7000. Wanted to use it with my HP screen. Shooting with the off set does me no good.
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Here you can find some help to get the answer of your questions, the W1070 is on the list :

http://www.benq.com/microsite/projector/throwratiocalculator/
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Here you can find some help to get the answer of your questions, the W1070 is on the list :
http://www.benq.com/microsite/projector/throwratiocalculator/
Thanks. Looks like the placement of the projector will probably be blocking the direct sound from my center speaker. frown.gif
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Just got the answer from BenQ France about the speed of the chromatic wheel, it's a 6X
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Just got the answer from BenQ France about the speed of the chromatic wheel, it's a 6X
Hooray. Good news. Anyway, does it support Anamorphic lens? Even projectors like Mitsu HC4000 & Viewsonic Pro8200 support A-lens.
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Just got the answer from BenQ France about the speed of the chromatic wheel, it's a 6X
Hi Kraine,
Patience is rewarded. You got the DC3 chip that was neither in the more expensive Acer 9500 or the BenQ 7000. The color wheel sounds like 3X rotational speed with 6 segments so that is a multiplier of 2 -> 3*2= 6x effective rotational speed

This 1070 looks like it may take the crown from the Mitsubishi 4000. Please ensure that there is 1:1 pixel mapping.

There are vertical whites lines in the test pattern that needs further investigation.

Thanks for the excellent reviews
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When will this be available in U.S.?


I'd like to know this as well, if it's released here at $1000 or less, I might finally be able to upgrade to 1080p and 3D.
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Bildformate: Physikalisch 16:9 / wählbar 4:3 / Wide/ Letter Box / Anamorph

It looks like it!

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Just got the answer from BenQ France about the speed of the chromatic wheel, it's a 6X

It might be true, but I have doubts. The MFR's have often said this in the past when their guys meant 6 segment.
On all sub $1500 Benq's, the fastest color wheel has so far been 4x, but about half their PJ's under $1500 are 3x wheels (not 3x in 60hz, but 3x total).


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Hi Hififun, the review will be online tomorrow as usual on www.audiovideohd.fr

This projector does an excellent job on the sharpness, I hope that this pic will help you understand better what I'm talking about smile.gif

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Kraine I really appreciate your reviews. You always seem to find these gems from nowhere. This will most certainly be my next PJ. I was looking at the shortthrow Benq w710st (720p), but this PJ is almost the same price, and yet 1080p with a proper HDMI 1.4 3D!!!

Thank you for always providing crosstalk and sharpness patterns, as well as contrast measurements, you are the best and a real pleasure to have on AVS smile.gif
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Thank you very much Xavier1 for all your kind words. smile.gif

And you're right, I wasn't expecting a lot from this budget projector, but as you say it's a new hidden Gem smile.gif
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Hi Kraine,
Patience is rewarded. You got the DC3 chip that was neither in the more expensive Acer 9500 or the BenQ 7000. The color wheel sounds like 3X rotational speed with 6 segments so that is a multiplier of 2 -> 3*2= 6x effective rotational speed
This 1070 looks like it may take the crown from the Mitsubishi 4000. Please ensure that there is 1:1 pixel mapping.
There are vertical whites lines in the test pattern that needs further investigation.
Thanks for the excellent reviews

I would be very skeptical regarding this unit besting the HC4000 on 2D image quality, however it certainly sounds like the potential is there for this BenQ 1070 to be THE best sub $1K all-around PJ (meaning 2D & 3D).

Hopefully this model comes out in the USA since it possibly replaces the 1060 that is sold here.

Definitely one to watch...

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@ kraine
Thank you very much for the review. From the review, it looks like a very good projector for 2D movie viewing at home. I hope it has reliable lamp and circuitry.
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Thanks for helping those of us who are language limited. smile.gif I read the review and for someone on a budget (like I always am), it seems like a great way to enter the 3D market. A full 1080p 3D projector for under $1,000 kind of blows my mind. I keep asking myself "How can they make any money on this??". I wonder if other manufacturers will be able to follow suit or whether they'll offer more features/performance for a little more $$$. The lack of a horizontal shift makes this a deal breaker for me (that's why I bought the Acer 9500.....I needed some (though not a lot of) horizontal shift. I doubt that you were able to review the Acer after they added CMS and fixed the pixel mapping problem, but what's your overall sense of how the Acer 9500 and BenQ1070 stack up (other than price) from a picture quality perspective?

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Thank you very much for the review. From the review, it looks like a very good projector for 2D movie viewing at home. I hope it has reliable lamp and circuitry.

It's really a very good choice for 2D (with exceptionnal sharpness for this price range).

Here the spreedshit of the product :

http://cedrus.hu/images/adatlappdf/BENQ/W1070_Specsheet.pdf
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Incali I think that we will see a lot of other 3D ready full hd projectors in this price range (Optoma, Acer, Viewsonic) because TI will deliver is new chipset. I love the W1070 in 2D but as I wrote in my review, they have to work on 3D picture.
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Incali I think that we will see a lot of other 3D ready full hd projectors in this price range (Optoma, Acer, Viewsonic) because TI will deliver is new chipset. I love the W1070 in 2D but as I wrote in my review, they have to work on 3D picture.

Why would introducing a new chipset bring costs down?? Does it make the engineering for the rest of the projector easier/cheaper or are costs just falling due to other factors (lower production costs, volume increases, etc.)?

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Thanks a lot for this find and a review!
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Contraste séquentiel moyen : 2500:1
What is this? And what is wrong with 3D on this projector? I wasn't able to catch the meaning in the google-translated review.
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It's an average value of on:off contrast (sequential) measurement depending on the zoom value, but usually I'm not adding it.
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It seems the review talks about the 3D depth and pop-out not being great.
But can't depth & pop-out be increased with settings either on the projector or with a Blu-Ray player that has those settings as options ?
I think Panasonic Blu-Ray players have those 3D options ?
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It seems the review talks about the 3D depth and pop-out not being great.
But can't depth & pop-out be increased with settings either on the projector or with a Blu-Ray player that has those settings as options ?
I think Panasonic Blu-Ray players have those 3D options ?

I think the 580/780 Sony series does also, but when I tried to use it, I vaguely recall some unwanted consequences. I don't remember, but I might have been doing a 2D to 3D conversion??

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Do we have numbers on brightness in 3D mode? Does is use High mode (~1650 lumens?) The conclusion gives a 5 on 3D brightness so I would think maybe about 400 lumens through the glasses? That's on par with the BenQ W7000 pretty darn good. This unit looks like a new 3D price/performance monster.

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Look this is a breakthrough product that needs no marketing or pushy salesmen to sell it.

Here is the French Perspective

It smaller than previous serious DLP projectors yet bigger than the pico models.
Looks like TI threw us in the Home Theater crowd a nice bone this year. Thank you!
The price is sweet because we are leveraging off the larger PICO market with its bold miniaturization.designs.

There are many positive aspects as mentioned in Kraines review. 4247:1 contrast with lamp low. Clearly an intelligent design compared to previous HT models.
This is the first DLP which does not take a huge contrast hit in adding 3D.
The included CMS is very nice. It works too.
The lack of ghosting and watching fatigue in 3D (this implies little or no flicker).

Less power consumption and way longer bulb life, yet still very bright.
Superior sharpness (Kraine show us Windows File Explorer with Clear Type turned off).
Notice perfect focus is achieved when the vertical and horizontals line between the pixels is equally present.
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I really enjoy Kraine showing-off the superior sharpness of the 1070 (with very low levels chromatic fringing) in comparison to the 8 times priced "competition".
The W1070 is a great example of buying-no-technology-before-its-time. Is it time? smile.gif
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The BENQ W1070 seem a true winner wish it release earlier if not i would have buy it instead of Acer H9500 but Acer H9500 with newest firmware still overall a good 2d and 3d projector to me.
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I really enjoy Kraine showing-off the superior sharpness of the 1070 (with very low levels chromatic fringing) in comparison to the 8 times priced "competition".
The W1070 is a great example of buying-no-technology-before-its-time. Is it time? smile.gif

Hi HiFiFun it show superiority not only in the sharpness domain, we can also discuss about the very good integrate calibration tools. All what you need is inside the menus and it works fine. (some 8 times priced competition as you say doesn't offer this level of efficiency).
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And native contrast is better than the more pricey W7000 too (which uses DC2 chip). I wonder what were they thinking... ;D
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