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I will take your word for it. I have updated bios on motherboards, so I am not very worried.

If I knew 1.08 would solve my overheating problems then I would jump all over it, but since there aren't release notes and detailed help it isnt worth it. Also, I dont want to void my warranty and be out $800 bucks.

I am going to keep high altitude mode off for the next few days and see if it happens again. If it does then I will send it back to amazon and get a replacement. It puzzles me that updating the firmware should be something the end users are able to do themselves. Especially if it can really improve the projector like you stated. BenQ must have a software issue that causes this to not be a super simple process.

Thanks for your input. I guess I am just used to more user friendly tech.

If you have a later version of the firmware 1.08 will not solve your overheating problem.
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Is about 1-2 inch enough yaw? If so the way I'm mounting it will allow about that much. The adjustment is in the peerless mounting slots for the ceiling. But I'm mounting mine to a wood shelf plate. So I'm using thru bolts that I can loosen to shift for yaw. Sound like a plan? Boy plans change all the time, going another way now, lol.

Screen and 25ft hdmi will be here tomorrow. I also got screen wall brackets delivered today. Then 3D glasses by the weekend. I ordered 2 from 3DTV and 2 from dimensional optics. More goodies.

Just make sure you throw up some pictures and let me know how you like the glasses. I need to order some. let me know which ones you got and how you liked them

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If you have a later version of the firmware 1.08 will not solve your overheating problem.

I wouldn't really call it an overheating problem. I ran the projector for easily 12hrs on Sunday with AFC & NFC championship games and it didn't overheat and shutoff. If it happens again then it goes back to amazon for a new one
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I wouldn't really call it an overheating problem. I ran the projector for easily 12hrs on Sunday with AFC & NFC championship games and it didn't overheat and shutoff. If it happens again then it goes back to amazon for a new one

Yeah, your altitude is actually below the recommended 1500m threshold, so you shouldn't need to use High Altitude mode.

Unless other aspects of your environment are extreme? Particularly hot room, perhaps? Ceiling mounting the pj also contributes here since due to the old 'hot air rising' principle!

I'm about 10% above the high-altitude threshold and still leave it off because, like you, I find it makes the otherwise quiet projector very noisy. (It forces fan-speed to 'full' continuously). I've never had a shut-off; though I'm still table-mounted; and the room is climate controlled. If/when I ceiling mount, I may reconsider since it'll be further away from where we sit.

I almost wish there was an override setting that allowed us to choose the fan speed: I wouldn't mind an extra bit of cooling from the fan (since it's not noisy), but cranking it all the way to full-speed sounds, like you say, like a jet engine :-)

Incidentally one fan-speed-related thing I noticed since upgrading to FW 1.08 (from 1.06): in SmartEco, the 'High Altitude' mode was previously not honored: on startup, the projector fan would go to full speed for a few minutes, and then drop down to non-high-altitude-mode fan speeds thereafter. In other lamp modes (Eco/Normal), the fan would run at full speed if High Altitude mode was on.

This also explains why in my review (which needs a bit of updating now - things have changed, mainly for the better!), I noted that "SmartEco sounds like the PS3 at idle (not particularly loud); while running at Normal or even Eco (!) modes is much louder; comparable to the PS3 under heavy load" with High Altitude mode on.

With 1.08, SmartEco now sounds like the other modes with High Altitude mode on.

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I may have been wrong with 1.08 not changing fan speed. There was nothing in information posted about this regarding 1.08., I now do think that 1.08 did change the fan speed in SmartEco. Thanks.
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Sorry but center of lens must be lined up with top of screen when ceiling mounted is that correct?
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Sorry but center of lens must be lined up with top of screen when ceiling mounted is that correct?
Not necessarily. Lens shift will allow you to place the PJ above the top of the screen (ceiling mount), but not much above. If you open or download the owners manual there Is a chart that correlates screen diag. size to distance from screen and also lens shift allowable at that distance.
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Center of lens should be 3 in above the viewing part of screen when ceiling mount
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It is a 100 in screen wall is 12 ft wide room is 24ft long ceiling is around 8ft tall
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It is a 100 in screen wall is 12 ft wide room is 24ft long ceiling is around 8ft tall

My living room that I'm setting up my 100 inch is 19 wide 11.5 deep and 8 ft ceilings.
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My screen arrived, it looks big in person.

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What should I pay for the w1070 I could of swore I seen this projector in the 700 range when I first started looking a few weeks ago no amazon has it for 875 please let me know
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What should I pay for the w1070 I could of swore I seen this projector in the 700 range when I first started looking a few weeks ago no amazon has it for 875 please let me know

Don't pay $875 for it. It will come down as low as $749. Check Amazon everyday and be what's typically the biggest challenge: patient.
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I just rechecked with WOW checkerboard test patterns and I definitely get BTB and WTW with HDMI set to video mode with YCbCr.
I can in fact see way up above white in the contrast test and have to turn contrast all the way up to 65 before white clips down to white +0 on the checkerboard.
With brightness checkerboard I can see way below black until I turn brightness down to 47 where black +0 is just invisible.
When checking gamma with these settings though, gamma 2.2 actually measures as 1.9 and the closest I can get to ideal gamma is 2.1 with the projector set at 2.8.

Setting Gamma to 2.8 (2.1 measured) with these settings and using brightness and contrast checkerboards again the projector still gets down to +0 black and up to +0 white as individual tests, but the combined superwhite and superblack checkerboard I loose all black upto about +5% but contrast still hangs on to +0.
Going back and forth between Gamma, brightness and contrast I was able to get a retina burning picture.. I mean its seriously bright switching between dark and bright scenes measured at 26+ FC before the smarteco mode brings it back down to a slightly less painful 22fc!
The picture looks ok and really really POPS from the screen but it looks too much like video and not enough like film and some scenes you can clearly see the contrast is set way too high because the image gets a really hard edge and looks oversaturated.

The bottom line.. I prefer a measured gamma @ 2.2 with projector set at 2.2 and brightness at 48 with contrast at 38. (all measurements were in cinema mode and normal colour temp and brilliant colour on) This setting gives a really nice tonal balance with a really smooth film look and still has good screen pop.
Looking at my preferred settings with the WOW checkerboard brightness and contrast tests I can see all the way up to +7% for white and down to +0% for black on the individual tests and in the combined superwhite/superblack test I see upto +7% white and down to +2% black.
My settings are also a much more comfortable measured 17fc.

Tried your settings tonight, at gamma 2.8 I lose most shadow detail, terrible black crush. 2.2 seems to be the sweet spot, at a range of potential brightness and contrast settings. I do have a gray screen, plus a light colored room.

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Tried your settings tonight, at gamma 2.8 I lose most shadow detail, terrible black crush. 2.2 seems to be the sweet spot, at a range of potential brightness and contrast settings. I do have a gray screen, plus a light colored room.

Yes Im not surprised. As I said you loose everything below +5% black with those settings.

I just did a quick recalibration last night with the latest firmware (1.05) for the W1080ST and the picture is definitely better. No more green push which was hard to calibrate out before.
My new settings are:
Cinema / Normal / Lamp Economy (didn't like the dynamic adjustment of smarteco and economy gives better blacks anyway)
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Brightness 48
Contrast 55
Gamma 2.4

This gives better blacks down to about +2% in high contrast scenes and a little more contrast and pop without burning your retinas. I will run this for a few days and may dial down the contrast a little or get a ND filter as its still on the verge of being too bright at 22fc but its bearable.

PS. going above contrast 55 starts to push gamma out pretty quickly and ruin blacks.
Made another quick adjustment to Gamma and its now measuring closer to 2.2 than before with Gamma set to 2.4. I noticed the projector defaulted to Gamma 2.4 after the firmware update too.
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What should I pay for the w1070 I could of swore I seen this projector in the 700 range when I first started looking a few weeks ago no amazon has it for 875 please let me know

Just keep checking around like butie said. I just bit the bullet and ordered off Best Buy for 799 when they had a sale. Amazon is always up and down between 879-799. I saw it once at 749 when I started looking at pj but not ready to buy.
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What should I pay for the w1070 I could of swore I seen this projector in the 700 range when I first started looking a few weeks ago no amazon has it for 875 please let me know

I don't know if this deal is still active but I saw it listed yesterday you could get it direct from Benq for $799. Listed for $899 but a hundred off with promo code.

http://shop.benq.us/projectors/home-entertainment/w1070-1080p-home-theater-projector.html?PID=7105480&utm_campaign=CJ

BenQ W1070 1080p 3D Home Theater Projector ($799) | BenQ | Use promo code superw1070
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I don't know if this deal is still active but I saw it listed yesterday you could get it direct from Benq for $799. Listed for $899 but a hundred off with promo code.

http://shop.benq.us/projectors/home-entertainment/w1070-1080p-home-theater-projector.html?PID=7105480&utm_campaign=CJ

BenQ W1070 1080p 3D Home Theater Projector ($799) | BenQ | Use promo code superw1070

The problem is that they charge shipping and tax.
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No kidding! I knew about this deal (directly from BenQ) and that shipping is only $5, but I didn't realize they charged tax, too! No deal!
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Yea just have to keep a good watch on it
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I bought the very similar W1080ST projector second hand, it came with firmware version 1.0

I went through all of the steps to upgrade the firmware to 1.05 (the latest available, released in December).

Flash succeeds and checksum succeeds, projector auto-reboots. Everything looked great at this point except that the orange light did not come back, it was stuck at a solid red.

Now I only have a solid red power light and the projector won't power on.

Any ideas on un-bricking it?
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My living room that I'm setting up my 100 inch is 19 wide 11.5 deep and 8 ft ceilings.

My room is 14' wide x 18' deep x 9' ceilings with a 106" screen, two tribute theater seats with a couch in front. Works great, seats 6 comfortably.
I would have bought a bigger screen, but I have a window with a black out shade on the projection wall and I wanted a fixed screen on the wall.
I ended up with about 18" of full length black velvet on both sides, 2 1/2' of velvet above and below the screen. Very satisfied with my theater room given it's
size constraints.
BTW, I paid ~$850 from Amazon for my W1070. Prime free shipping. I returned one projector (faulty) and the second one was a keeper!

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I bought the very similar W1080ST projector second hand, it came with firmware version 1.0


Now I only have a solid red power light and the projector won't power on.

Any ideas on un-bricking it?


Awe, Shitsnacks.

Bummer, sorry to hear that it may be bricked. I'm no help other than to feel sorry for you. Someone else can help you thou. Lot's of smart folk on this site who want to help others.

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My room is 14' wide x 18' deep x 9' ceilings with a 106" screen, two tribute theater seats with a couch in front. Works great, seats 6 comfortably.
I would have bought a bigger screen, but I have a window with a black out shade on the projection wall and I wanted a fixed screen on the wall.
I ended up with about 18" of full length black velvet on both sides, 2 1/2' of velvet above and below the screen. Very satisfied with my theater room given it's
size constraints.
BTW, I paid ~$850 from Amazon for my W1070. Prime free shipping. I returned one projector (faulty) and the second one was a keeper!

I signed up too for prime to order all my stuff with free 2 day shipping.

Right now the 100 will be fine from 8-9 feet viewing. It covers my 4 theater chair configuration for now. When I do my dedicated room I want 120-130.
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Hi, I have my pj connected with my lenovo y510 wit he nvidia 750 card. After I updated succefull the firmware to 1.08 I cand enable the 3d stereoscope mode to nvidia panel for 3d movies. When I checked the box is putting me to setup the stereoscope screen and after the pj locked to 720p frame packing and messed up the image. Before I was able to see 3d. I don't know what happened now. I quess I will try to install again the nvidia drivers. Anybody has any idea? The resolution is 1080 60 hz. Before to upgrade the firmware I was able to see 3d with this laptop.
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Got all 4 of my glasses today. I just hooked up the pj and projected on a sheet again. I have to say I'm pretty impressed by the dts 3d demo, that's all the 3d I have now. I was running the pj is Eco and at first it was very dark. But after my eyes adjusted to the dark it was great. After I was done I accidently unplugged the pj while it was cooling down. I panicked and plugged it back in and pressed the power button. All it did was keep flashing the lamp red. I looked it up and started to freak out. But after about 45-60 seconds the pj turned back on. I guess it was in a protection mode. Should I hook it up to a battery back up?

On another question. When the pj switches to 3d then back to 2d when done it defaults back to standard picture and I have to choose cinema. Does it not remember settings between 3d and regular 2d?

Going to get everything mounted this weekend and then will take pictures.
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I think the projectors have a large storage capacitor to keep the fan running after accidental shutdown. I unplugged mine last night to do the firmware upgrade after resetting to factory defaults and the fan was running for a good 40secs with no power plugged in!
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Just an update from the land of Vikings :-)

Still at firmware 1.05, my brand new Benq 1070, is on its way to be my best video gear I ever have have bought. I have now carefully entered Steve Withers settings, look very good!

To check my settings, I just watched these blurays:

a) The Avengers (2012) -- just fantastic vibrant and life like colours, and rich black -- a true big screen cinema experience in my living room!! The film is a big 16:9 aspect (please correct me!) - filling my 106" screen entirely!

b) Public Enemies (2009) -- this movie is indeed "coloured" in sort of sepia -- thus I could really enjoy the fantastic sharpness my Benq gives, and also again, the blacks are not at all bad, this is very good! Aspect ratio is a anamorphic 2.4 (please correct me!) giving a really old fashion big screen wide wide experinence at home!

So I am happy now, very happy now!

Tonight I will be watching the new After Earth bluray -- claimed by Sony as "mastered in 4K " - looking forward to that one.
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Does the W1070 (or W1080ST) work @120hz 720p (2D mode) via HDMI?

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Does the W1070 (or W1080ST) work @120hz 720p (2D mode) via HDMI?

Nope

Format Resolution Refresh rate (Hz) H. Freq. (KHz) Pixel Freq. (MHz) Aspect
480i** 720 (1440) x 480 59.94 15.73 27 16:9
480p 720 x 480 59.94 31.47 27 16:9
576i 720 (1440) x 576 50 15.63 27 16:9
576p 720 x 576 50 31.25 27 16:9
720/50p* 1280 x 720 50 37.5 74.25 16:9
720/60p* 1280 x 720 60 45.00 74.25 16:9
1080/24P* 1920 x 1080 24 27 74.25 16:9
1080/25P 1920 x 1080 25 28.13 74.25 16:9
1080/30P 1920 x 1080 30 33.75 74.25 16:9
1080/50i*** 1920 x 1080 50 28.13 74.25 16:9
1080/60i*** 1920 x 1080 60 33.75 74.25 16:9
1080/50P 1920 x 1080 50 56.25 148.5 16:9
1080/60P 1920 x 1080 60 67.5 148.5 16:9
*Supported timing for 3D signal with Frame Packing and Top-Bottom format.
**Supported timing for 3D signal with Frame Sequential format.
***Supported timing for 3D signal with Side-by-Side format.

And they just added 1080P 3D @ 60
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And they just added 1080P 3D @ 60

How is that possible via HDMI? Or you mean SBS?

Thanks for the informative reply.

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