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post #8041 of 11053 Old 03-19-2014, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Desisuperman

I have a question regarding the PC Signal option under HDMI options.

For my HTPC, I have Dynamic Range set to Full 0-255, Pixel Format YCBCR 4:2:2

Projector HDMI Settings is set to PC Signal

Does this make sense? Do have it setup correctly ? Thanks in advance for the help
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Put your HTPC in ycbcr 4:4:4 instead, apparently the greyscale tracking on the w1070 is better when fed that type of signal. I noticed a difference, but I've never properly calibrated mine. Someone else want to put up a link with the review from that calibrator who discovered this? This thread is huge, and I'm too lazy right now. Sundays and all...smile.gif


Thanks RLBURNSIDE. Switched ycbcr to 4:4:4

What about Dynamic Range on my PC? Should I leave it at full? I have tried PC signal and Video signal settings on the projector and I find with it on PC signal the picture has got a white washed look to it. I'm going to assume PC signal is Full Range 0-255 and Video Signal is limited range 16-235. Is this correct?

I've set the projector to Video Signal so should I leave dynamic range to full on the HTPC and let the projector handle it or do I match the signal and put it on limited ?
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Schmidtwi,

I don't normally write reviews but since I was so impressed with the image qaulity of this projector I felt I needed to take the time to write a quick review, I even took some pics to help others their decision. As you can see, Im in the middle of finishing my basement and don't have time to ready through 269 pages. All I was looking for was some info that would be easy to pass on for a guy/gal that has had some time with this projector.
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That settles it. No update for me then wink.gif
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Thats a shame - i have noticed (as others have reported) huge improvements in image, color, HDMI locking, 3D frequencies etc

I was VERY worried to upgrade. My firmware was 1.02. However after reading, and reading, and reading again i took the plunge.
My main relief from anxiety was just getting the DLP Comp app talking with the Projector. Once i was happy with that, i then tried booting into UPLOAD mode (RED LED light). Also i kept MD5 checking the firmware i downloaded...
Once i did all of that several times. re-read the flashing guide again i hit the START button and let it do its thing. No worries once it started. I left it for a LONG time to turn ORANGE - rebooted - had a panic attack, then remembered to set the source to AUTO DETECT - anxiety left - projector is OK - the world is good again smile.gif
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I'm about to pull the trigger and buy this projector but now I'm a little concerned with all this firmware and RBE talk. Hope I don't regret this purchase.......
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I'm about to pull the trigger and buy this projector but now I'm a little concerned with all this firmware and RBE talk. Hope I don't regret this purchase.......

Nothing to be nervous about. The upgrades are easy to do and you will love your new projector. I have 2,500 hours with no problems.
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I'm about to pull the trigger and buy this projector but now I'm a little concerned with all this firmware and RBE talk. Hope I don't regret this purchase.......

It has been a huge improvement in my hardware. I don't have any regrets only that I wished I would have pulled the trigger a year ago when I first had my eye on one. I think you'll enjoy it too.
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Not sure if this has been answered but if you flash to a newer firmware, I am assuming your lamp time gets reset?

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please forgive the newbish question, but how reliable are Benq's???? I'm seriously considering the 1070 since I want a 3D projector from my 8350 Epson, but the 1 year warranty makes me slightly nervous
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Not sure if this has been answered but if you flash to a newer firmware, I am assuming your lamp time gets reset?
Yes.
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Yes.

yeah I figured as much, I am still on the fence since I am on 1.06 on if I really should upgrade to 1.08 since it seems the color on the green side of the scale seems to be the only thing that improves and even then not sure if thats even a big enough change to make it worthwild. ^^;

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yeah I figured as much, I am still on the fence since I am on 1.06 on if I really should upgrade to 1.08 since it seems the color on the green side of the scale seems to be the only thing that improves and even then not sure if thats even a big enough change to make it worthwild. ^^;
I'm on 1.06 too and haven't bothered, and probably won't. Tweaking the green sounds good, but I'd then assume any settings you're used to using (Withers, Sound & Vision, etc.) are no longer valid. If you calibrate yourself maybe this isn't a big deal.
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I'm on 1.06 too and haven't bothered, and probably won't. Tweaking the green sounds good, but I'd then assume any settings you're used to using (Withers, Sound & Vision, etc.) are no longer valid. If you calibrate yourself maybe this isn't a big deal.

If you are on 1.06 you are probably fine. You could always fine tune the color yourself. 1.06 was important for improving the HDMI handshake.
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I'm on 1.06 too and haven't bothered, and probably won't. Tweaking the green sounds good, but I'd then assume any settings you're used to using (Withers, Sound & Vision, etc.) are no longer valid. If you calibrate yourself maybe this isn't a big deal.

Agreed; I did this same update (1.06 to 1.08) and found it a bit of a waste of time.
Even posted the good excuses for firmware updates that I've found. 1.08 wasn't on the list wink.gif

With fast HDMI source-detection and full 3D-timing support, 1.06 was already excellent.

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please forgive the newbish question, but how reliable are Benq's???? I'm seriously considering the 1070 since I want a 3D projector from my 8350 Epson, but the 1 year warranty makes me slightly nervous

1-year warranty is pretty standard at this price point. I believe one of the main reasons for longer warranties from Epson is because the LCD panels used in their 3LCD's are susceptible to dust blobs - which isn't an issue with DLP's.

1400 hours here after about a year of daily use; no issues so far. At all.

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I'm about to pull the trigger and buy this projector but now I'm a little concerned with all this firmware and RBE talk. Hope I don't regret this purchase.......

If you purchase new; you'll probably get recent firmware anyway so no need to worry about that.

If you run into RBE issues (not all that likely for most people); there are solutions (ND filters, adjusting refresh rate, etc).
I highly doubt you'll regret your purchase. And worst case? You can always do a return.
But I doubt you'll want to biggrin.gif

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1-year warranty is pretty standard at this price point. I believe one of the main reasons for longer warranties from Epson is because the LCD panels used in their 3LCD's are susceptible to dust blobs - which isn't an issue with DLP's.

1400 hours here after about a year of daily use; no issues so far. At all.
If you purchase new; you'll probably get recent firmware anyway so no need to worry about that.

gotcha, I guess I was used to my 2 year epson warranties that I got a little spoiled. wish I'd have seen last months $779 deal on this baby. that would have been a big duuuuuh for me.. frown.gif unless anyone knows where it's cheapest right now (from an authorized retailer)


oh, and I almost forgot. how forgiving is the lens shift? I know the epson is NUTS for it's awesome flexibility, but I put my pj at about the top edge of the screen about dead center (ish)... so as long as it doesn't have a crazy offset like the Mits 7900 I'm assuming I should be good
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how forgiving is the lens shift? I know the epson is NUTS for it's awesome flexibility, but I put my pj at about the top edge of the screen about dead center (ish)... so as long as it doesn't have a crazy offset like the Mits 7900 I'm assuming I should be good

Not all that forgiving... but at the positioning you specify (dead center of screen; at top edge) you're already perfectly positioned. Offset range is from about lens-height; to a few inches downwards (if ceiling-mounted) or a few inches upwards (if table-mounted).

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Not all that forgiving... but at the positioning you specify (dead center of screen; at top edge) you're already perfectly positioned. Offset range is from about lens-height; to a few inches downwards (if ceiling-mounted) or a few inches upwards (if table-mounted).

nice, that's about what I like.. a few inch offset. I can adjust my pj up a few inches from where it's at too so that sounds fine.. I'm really tempted. I just need to see if anyone has it for less than the $899 it is now ....I like my 8350 but I've heard the 1070 throws a better picture AND it is 3d...
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Hi guys,


I have a few questions as a first time buyer.

- Which screen is best for the W1070, white or grey? AND high or low gain?
- Is it wise to go with a 85 inch, when my room is only 218 mm wide ? 
The screen will be 15 cm from the wall on both sides. Will this cause major problems for me?

 

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Hi guys,



I have a few questions as a first time buyer.


- Which screen is best for the W1070, white or grey? AND high or low gain?

- Is it wise to go with a 85 inch, when my room is only 218 mm wide ? 

The screen will be 15 cm from the wall on both sides. Will this cause major problems for me?


 

with the brightness level you'll be fine with either white or grey, but a 1.1 gain white screen would do very well with those lumens

85 inch is fine with that distance from the wall as long as you can paint the walls a flat dark color..otherwise you're gonna get some nasty reflections washing out those nice contrast levels
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with the brightness level you'll be fine with either white or grey, but a 1.1 gain white screen would do very well with those lumens

85 inch is fine with that distance from the wall as long as you can paint the walls a flat dark color..otherwise you're gonna get some nasty reflections washing out those nice contrast levels

Actually, my projector will be placed 3½-4 meters from the screen.


Okay, just to make sure, so you recommend a 1.1 gain white screen? 

I'll make sure to do that :)

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Not sure if this has been answered but if you flash to a newer firmware, I am assuming your lamp time gets reset?

My lamp hours were not reset.
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Not sure if this has been answered but if you flash to a newer firmware, I am assuming your lamp time gets reset?
 

 

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My lamp hours were not reset.
 

Mine were not reset either, going from 1.05 to 1.08.

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@Patty2720 - Check the projector calculators to make sure the 1070 will produce an 85" image at 3.5-4 meters. Mine is at 11 feet (within your range) producing a 120" image. You may very well be fine but that just seems small for that distance so double check.
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@Patty2720 - Check the projector calculators to make sure the 1070 will produce an 85" image at 3.5-4 meters. Mine is at 11 feet (within your range) producing a 120" image. You may very well be fine but that just seems small for that distance so double check.

yeah, im getting 90" at around ~3m at 1.0 zoom

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yeah I am just under 11 feet shooting 120" smile.gif

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Change of plans, my girlfriend now wants me to put it into our bedroom, which is nice because there is MUCH more space. So time for some new questions :p 


- What screen should I choose to my W1070? We have some (don't know the word) curtains that makes our bedroom pitch black when drawn, so sunlight isn't an issue.
- The W1070 will be placed 11 feet from the screen, and we will sit 10 feet from the screen, is a 100 inch screen to big?
- On a scale 1-10 how good is the 3D, when sitting 10 feet from a 100 inch?
- Which is the best 3D movie you've seen on the W1070?
- Is it good for gaming?

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Change of plans, my girlfriend now wants me to put it into our bedroom, which is nice because there is MUCH more space. So time for some new questions :p 


- What screen should I choose to my W1070? We have some (don't know the word) curtains that makes our bedroom pitch black when drawn, so sunlight isn't an issue.
- The W1070 will be placed 11 feet from the screen, and we will sit 10 feet from the screen, is a 100 inch screen to big?
- On a scale 1-10 how good is the 3D, when sitting 10 feet from a 100 inch?
- Which is the best 3D movie you've seen on the W1070?
- Is it good for gaming?


- dunno, i use a cheap rolloscreen, which slightly curls at the corners (crap), but thats ok. simple matte white with a gain of 1.0

- http://i.imgur.com/fIqy71S.jpg and should be alright. just make sure that the height is good (eyes roughly in the mid of the screen). looking up or down is not nice.

- dunno, dont use 3D

- dunno

- I only played metroid prime (via dolphin @ 1080p): looks awesome, plays very well too. dunno about input delay (reviews state around 25-30ms), but for offline games, it will be awesome!

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one more question to bug people with. how are the black levels on the W1070 vs. the Epson 8350??? I know I like a DLP image for color "pop" more than the epson (almost bought the Optoma HD20 back in the day when I was deciding on the 8350 vs dlp debate) but I know the 8350 was known for having really good black levels..but then again that was 2.5 years ago
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