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Normal lamp mode with dynamic picture mode, and brightness set to 55, seem a bit green, but it's perfectly viewable on my silverscreen.

 

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How does the w1070 perform in non-dedicated HT with moderate light, say sports viewing during the day?

I use mine for this purpose maybe 30% of the time especially during baseball season. Always getting complements on the picture quality even with the slightly "washed out" picture. Then I turn the lights off and people are blown away. I use smarteco during ambient light conditions with my normal calibrated settings, sometimes I'll just bump up the contrast a little.

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How does the w1070 perform in non-dedicated HT with moderate light, say sports viewing during the day?

Looks terrible. I would only recommend watching it in the evenings.
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Looks terrible. I would only recommend watching it in the evenings.

It doesn't look terrible. I watched during the day and it looks fine.
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It doesn't look terrible. I watched during the day and it looks fine.

I can't speak for anyone else but I have moderate standards for video. I had to stop watching the playoff game yesterday and had to revert back to my 32", I mean 55" TV.

Well so there you have it smile.gif. It's like reading reviews on Tripadvisor..."it's great!...it's the worst ever!...etc.".
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It's not terrible and it won't blow you away. This pj is a light cannon and does ok with ambient light.


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It's not terrible and it won't blow you away. This pj is a light cannon and does ok with ambient light.

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It's not terrible and it won't blow you away. This pj is a light cannon and does ok with ambient light.

I agree ambient light in the evening is fine. But with my south facing family room with a big window, even with the curtains drawn the picture is very washed out during the day. Trust me, I'm not happy with this...I'm just trying to give a potential buyer honest advice.
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How does the w1070 perform in non-dedicated HT with moderate light, say sports viewing during the day?
This is a bit of a trick question.

'Moderate light' doesn't mean anything at all. Moderate light could be the addition of 10-15 lumens in the room and it could reduce your contrast ratio to lower than 6:1 on screen, which is completely lousy. It is an unacceptable level for even the most basic of PowerPoint presentations, and would be horrendous for viewing sports or television on.

On the other hand, moderate light could mean, some covered shades and shadowed light throughout the room only introducing a few lumens on screen and reducing contrast ratios to around 40:1 or so, which leaves things very viewable on screen and enjoyable.

The responses you are reading have nothing to do with your situation in the least, they are dealing with THEIR situation, which just doesn't apply at all.

Keep light off screen, keep direct sunlight out of the room, be really forgiving, and if you can't be forgiving, then be prepared to buy much better shades for the projector location. Any direct sunlight, falling within the space the projector is in will not ever be what I would consider 'moderate' light. If this is a room that doesn't need any lights on to see perfectly well in, especially where the screen is located, then I would plan for really poor results from the front projection setup. If your room has some light, but the area around the screen is well shaded, and sits well away from where light enters the room, you may have fair to decent results. Maybe even good.

Of course, screen size plays into this a great deal.

If the room is lousy, then a light rejecting screen may be appropriate despite the horrendous things it does to the image quality.


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Thank you for the responses regarding the dust blobs and ceiling mounting, appreciated.

Is there anyone who has experienced dust blobs who has the projector mounted/positioned right side up? Thanks.

I have had mine sitting right side up on a low shelf for about a year and have dust blobs.
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Same here, mine is 1.5 months old, control panel side up on the low coffee table and dust blobs, many of them. Not sure how Benq can get away with it. What is saddening, I see several posts that say their replacements already came with blobs. What are you guys planning to do about it?

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I've chat with benq rep, he recommended sh910 for bright room. Is this a approach?
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I've chat with benq rep, he recommended sh910 for bright room. Is this a approach?
No, in a bright room you should get a LCD television, not a projector.


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I was starting to get dust strings as i would call them as they were moving. As they were getting bigger i tried putting fan on high altitude mode and they were gone in 2 days of watching:D. Might not work for all but it worked for me. Btw i have a little more than 2000 hours on a feb 13 build


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This is a bit of a trick question.

'Moderate light' doesn't mean anything at all. Moderate light could be the addition of 10-15 lumens in the room and it could reduce your contrast ratio to lower than 6:1 on screen, which is completely lousy. It is an unacceptable level for even the most basic of PowerPoint presentations, and would be horrendous for viewing sports or television on.

On the other hand, moderate light could mean, some covered shades and shadowed light throughout the room only introducing a few lumens on screen and reducing contrast ratios to around 40:1 or so, which leaves things very viewable on screen and enjoyable.

The responses you are reading have nothing to do with your situation in the least, they are dealing with THEIR situation, which just doesn't apply at all.

Keep light off screen, keep direct sunlight out of the room, be really forgiving, and if you can't be forgiving, then be prepared to buy much better shades for the projector location. Any direct sunlight, falling within the space the projector is in will not ever be what I would consider 'moderate' light. If this is a room that doesn't need any lights on to see perfectly well in, especially where the screen is located, then I would plan for really poor results from the front projection setup. If your room has some light, but the area around the screen is well shaded, and sits well away from where light enters the room, you may have fair to decent results. Maybe even good.

Of course, screen size plays into this a great deal.

If the room is lousy, then a light rejecting screen may be appropriate despite the horrendous things it does to the image quality.

Very good post. Very technical response and I agree with all your points.

I did qualify that in my system watching during the day is not that great. I have a hard time getting the area around the screen dim enough to have a pleasant picture.

Nothing against the BenQ after all I'm a proud new owner of it. Last night watching the NBA playoffs...it was outstanding.

Anyone using the isf night and day settings? It looks like the isf 1 white balance is very good for movies.
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with (non blackout) curtains in front of my windows and on smart eco, I can watch during the day, no problem.
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How can u make ur existing curtains convert to blackout ones? Is there an inexpensive solution?
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Anyone using the Darbee with W1070 and what are your setting.

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I have had mine sitting right side up on a low shelf for about a year and have dust blobs.

Thank you, I think. Unfortunately your response, along with dvzzz, destroyed my theory. I thought that being up side down the air path may have been compromised but this clearly is not the case.

I have mine right side up on a moving trolley (cannot ceiling mount due to central ceiling fan). I cover mine when not in use and this may be a good idea as dust does not fall directly onto the projector or the surrounding surfaces. Don't know if it will make a difference long term, but it has worked to date.
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How can u make ur existing curtains convert to blackout ones? Is there an inexpensive solution?

You can purchase a liner to 'back' the curtains from places where they sell curtain material (e.g. Spotlight in Australia). The only draw back is that it may be cheaper to buy new curtains.
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Anyone using the Darbee with W1070 and what are your setting.

No Darbee yet, but next purchase will be the Oppo 103D.


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Anyone using the Darbee with W1070 and what are your setting.

I am, using gaming at 65% for everything, sometimes I'll switch to full pop for animated stuff. Really makes a pretty big difference with the projector imo. If i switch it off now the picture almost looks blurry to me now.

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Anyone using the Darbee with W1070 and what are your setting.
I just paired a 103D with the W1070. I use HD set at 60%. That's on the high side from what most people use, but I like it. Pushing it beyond that starts to make the picture look waxy.
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what are the cheapest 3d glasses to pair with this projector?
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starry night on the 2.5 months old Oct 2013 manufactured W1070, how is that for the quality control. No way to clean at home, RMAed but... will new on will work better


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Wow. Did that happen all at once or did it slowly get worse over time?
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I did not realize that whitish circles on the black scenes in the past 2-3 weeks were dust blobs, well now I know...
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Wow. Did that happen all at once or did it slowly get worse over time?
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People with dust issues can try this. When I had my first PJ it had a line in the right side of bright screens and it moved like a fan was blowing it. Like a dust line or thread.

I ended up getting it RA ed, but I tried looking for it.

This is what I did.

I put in the Disney WOW and put it on a black test pattern or no source. Then got on a chair and without looking directly into the center if lens you can see into the whole light box. With the lens it makes everything magnified. I could see all types of dust on the mirrors and dust floating in the light box area. I was trying to find a little thread on the edge somewhere but nothing. But you can also see wipe smudge lines in these mirrors too. It helps to close one eye and look with only one. But as you move around you can see all types of stuff. Do this at your own risk and make sure not to have a bright screen. Good luck, but you will be amazed.

My new PJ is built Jan 14 and so far nothing. I did not look hard but did not notice stuff floating either.


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Black out liner OR you can purchase dark felt and glue it to the backing of your curtains.
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I use a Darbee with mine and have it set to HD at 65% and it makes a huge difference in picture quality, simply gorgeous. smile.gif

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starry night on the 2.5 months old Oct 2013 manufactured W1070, how is that for the quality control. No way to clean at home, RMAed but... will new on will work better



That's what mine ended up looking like as well (Feb 2013-built; HW Revision 00-103 according to the box/bottom of the unit). The reseller I purchased from is still fighting with BenQ over an RMA (it was just out of warranty).

The reseller 'loaned' me a brand new one in the meantime. It's also Jan 2014; HW Revision 01-107.
The first part of that hardware revision (01) probably refers to the accessories (ie, it came with the new remote); the latter bit (107) is likely the projector itself. It's dust free; but as noted previously, that doesn't mean it can't happen in future. It's very worrying.

A few notes on the 01-107 when compared to my original 00-103:
  • Came with firmware 1.08. Which means full 3D H-SBS support at 1080p24hz; out of the box.
  • Brightness uniformity drastically improved over the old one. Twisting the bulb of my old one (as per Dom Sad's suggestion, here) did help a lot, though it never bothered me much to begin with and I only twisted it as part of my attempt to dust-bust. A 45 Degree twist of the bulb did the trick for me. I wonder of the new one isn't twisted to begin with in-factory...
  • HDMI 1 is less recessed; meaning HDMI cables will likely make better contact (was never an issue for me, though it did affect some)
  • Fan doesn't rattle. Old one rattled from the first time I powered it on. Never bothered us much but the Mrs. did comment that the new one is quieter. That said, I half-expect it to start rattling at some point!
  • Lens-Shift cover clips in place now - it used to just slide.
  • No high-pitched PSU sound when projector is powered off but plugged in (in orange-light standby mode). This irritated me a ton on the old one; leading me to frequently power off the plug.
  • Overall brightness is about 20% brighter due to the new bulb. The old one was at 1500 hours; so this is a pretty good omen in terms of how the bulb dims with age. The main drop-off that I noticed was in the first 200-300 hours or so. Clearly a good bulb.
  • New remote; it's back-lit, looks exactly as per my post here. Never had issues with the old one (hardly needed to use it other than powering on/off); but it's really convenient to have 'User 1' and 'User 2' quick-access Mode-change buttons (I've got User 1 calibrated for night-time; and User 2 calibrated for day-time; not having to cycle through every mode when switching between them is great).

I deeply love this projector and am relatively impressed that BenQ have made so many useful changes since it was released. It means they're interested in keeping competitive and they're listening to us. I'm still in awe of the image it spits out: it's magnificent and astoundingly color-accurate; as well as bright. Firmware 1.08's default calibration settings are almost perfect now; I just had to dial back blue a bit to prevent clipping but it was otherwise flawless for me.

However I've been less impressed in their after-sales service; particularly since my dust-blob fiasco. It's clearly not properly ligh-path sealed (from color-wheel to main lens): my educated guess is that it's partially open at the bottom of the lens. I've never seen a DLP projector this recently-released with so many dust-blob-related issue reports. And while my Jan-2014 loan model is OK now (I did thorough checking for blobs by running through the zoom/focus ranges with Eco-Blank on), I'm still pretty concerned it may develop the issue down the line. I sincerely hope BenQ has sorted this out on these new January models - since you're not the first to report an issue with an October-built one!
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