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I just bought the w1070 a week ago and love it, I will be re-designing my theater room and have a question. My room is 18x 21 complete light controlled (no windows), ceiling will be flat black, 3 walls will be flat navy blue, i have dark grey carpet. Front seats will be about 12-13feet from screen, will this projector push to a 135" fixed screen? I have 106" now but i would like to go larger but without sacrificing to much image quality.
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Is it normal that vent is blowing  hot air?
This make my small home theater room very hot.
It's a very hot lamp inside, surrounded by electronics running full tilt.

Yes, it's supposed to be VERY hot air coming out of the projector if the fans are doing things properly.

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...will this projector push to a 135" fixed screen? I have 106" now but i would like to go larger but without sacrificing to much image quality.
Image quality is all about resolution compared to seating distance and screen size. A 10' wide screen viewed from 15' away is the same as a 100' wide screen viewed from 150' away. As long as you maintain good brightness, color, and contrast with the size.

In the case of the W1070, 135" is easy.

I'm running my unit at 161" on a 1.3 gain screen. It looks great. Look at the photos just a few posts back with the outdoor screen... That's 228"! This projector really performs well.

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Is it normal that vent is blowing  hot air?
This make my small home theater room very hot.
my room gets hot too. It's a 11×14 with 1 a/c vent. It's fine in winter but I'm thinking of adding another vent
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It's a very hot lamp inside, surrounded by electronics running full tilt.

Yes, it's supposed to be VERY hot air coming out of the projector if the fans are doing things properly.

I might have to buy a very quiet mini AC unit the for this room...

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Image quality is all about resolution compared to seating distance and screen size. A 10' wide screen viewed from 15' away is the same as a 100' wide screen viewed from 150' away. As long as you maintain good brightness, color, and contrast with the size.

In the case of the W1070, 135" is easy.

I'm running my unit at 161" on a 1.3 gain screen. It looks great. Look at the photos just a few posts back with the outdoor screen... That's 228"! This projector really performs well.

Thats an awesome size screen. I will be ordering the 135" tonight. July 4th weekend will be the when I paint and change the room, I'll post pics as i go. Thanks AV for the info, by the way, you would love the room now, its bright yellow! smile.gif
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Is it possible to send the video signal directly to projector then send just optical to receiver in order to get 3d? Or is this player a better option? I don't want to upgrade receiver because it's been great to me.

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Are there any newer Blu Ray players that are inexpensive with dual hdmi?
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Anyone using Yamaha rx-v773 with their 1070? What hdmi do you use and does it carry everything? I will probably have to span using a 50' cable.
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Anyone using Yamaha rx-v773 with their 1070? What hdmi do you use and does it carry everything? I will probably have to span using a 50' cable.
I'm using the rx-v573 it carries everything and I'm not using anything special for hdmi one off amazon
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I'm using the rx-v573 it carries everything and I'm not using anything special for hdmi one off amazon



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Hey guys, I got this projector and absolutely love it. Projecting onto a Seymour XD 120" diag screen and the picture quality is incredible. One question though, is anyone else having issues with the remote? I have to stand up and get the remote extremely close to the projector and have it facing at just the right angle to get it to work. I've tried multiple sets of brand new batteries to I don't think that is the issue. Are you guys able to get the remote working better than that? Is it responsive if you are just sitting in your MLP? I love the projector, but can't stand the remote!! Is it defective? Thanks!

Mine works great, I can just point it at my wall (my screen) and it works always. Probably a defective remote.
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I actually did try to view 3d clips, movies from even you tube via my PS3 and it works great as in everything Pop Out in your face Youtube mvies/clips come in Side By Side Format.

Tried the my copy of the 3d (Blu Ray Frame Packing format) Tangled movie on my friends EPSON 3010E 3D Projector last night and lanterns scene actually Popped Out into the room, 3D Pop Out effect was amazing, Same scene has no pop outs on my projector w1070 when i play the same Blu Ray Movie. 

Like I said before the SBS Format movies & clips from Comcast, or You tube work excellent and the 3D Pop Out is in your face.

However the any of my 3d Blu Ray Movies are detected and played by my PJ in 3D Frame Packing format however they are FLAT.
No Pop Out Effect.

Yes I did upgrade my firmware version to 1.8 . Guess this also didn't fix the issue for frame packing format.

Now I'm beginning to wonder if my PJ W1070 may have a defect for frame packing mode or may be my True Depth Firestorm XL Active Glasses don't support Frame Packing Mode @1080P/24 HZ,
However PJ & True Depth XL Firestorm glasses play the same movies and clips from comcast or youtube in Side By Side Format (@ 1080i/60HZ) and there is great 3D Pop Out Effect which is in your face.

I am thinking of ordering either Ben Q 3D Glasses from amazon or Saisonic 3d glasses and again test my blu ray frame packing format movies just make sure it may not be my 3D (True Depth firestorm xl) glass issue.... as in May Be True Depth Firestorm XL dont support 3D Frame Packing format or 3D Blu RayMovies with similar format. Since all Blu Ray 3D Movies come only in Frame Packing Format.......


Guys Any Advice would be greatly appreciated..... Thanks. 

I have actually noticed the same thing - SBS seems to pop out a lot more compared to frame packing.. The 3d blue ray movies I have seem just to have depth into the screen, while the 3d movies on Netflix (especially the turtle cartoon movie) seem to really pop out.
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Just an FYI regarding this projector in the US. I emailed BenQ about registering my projector and they told me you are automatically registered with your purchase and just make sure to keep your receipt/proof of purchase for future warranty issues.
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I have actually noticed the same thing - SBS seems to pop out a lot more compared to frame packing.. The 3d blue ray movies I have seem just to have depth into the screen, while the 3d movies on Netflix (especially the turtle cartoon movie) seem to really pop out.

Are these Frame packing 3D original from the store or downloaded?

 

I have the Panasonic 3D demo and talking about pop out,there is too much pop out with this Demo.

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Mine are Store bought 3d Blu Ray Discs in Frame Packing Format.. 

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Mine are Store bought 3d Blu Ray Discs in Frame Packing Format.. 

Strange...

 

I had one that i made from the original copy to test it out and the 3D was bad on the copy version.

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I have a question regarding 3d. I have a Onkyo 805 receiver that I want to bypass for 3d only, but still want to be able to you it for 2d video through the receiver. Right now I have it connected through a hdmi switch. I want to use my ps3 for 3d. So I am going to send the optical out to the receiver and HDMI to projector. What do I need to achieve this? Would a hdmi splitter all I need?
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Hey Guys,
I just bought the Sony BDP 5200 tonight and hooked it my my Receiver DNA1040 and Frame Packing Mode worked great.

Finally 3D Popped Out just like SBS Format.

So it wasn't the glasses after all. It was the PS3 ability to handle Frame Packing Format that has been issue all this time..... PS3 can't handle Frame Packing Mode.... Hence movie is FLAT....

Finally it works great as expected greats depth and great 3d Pop Out Effect...

Thank you Guys...........
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So you are saying the ps3 doesn't work well with this projector when it comes to 3d?
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Sorry for the dumb question, but is Frame Packing best than SBS 3D? Why? And what about frame sequential?

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What the default baud rate on the projector? I think I accidentally changed it.
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So you are saying the ps3 doesn't work well with this projector when it comes to 3d?

He's referring to movie playback. (Not an issue that everyone's having). I've done a good deal of gaming on the PS3 via this projector and games played in 3D are incredible. MotorStorm Apocalypse is my showcase game in this case - it's mighty impressive. (Available for download on the PlayStation Store)

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Sorry for the dumb question, but is Frame Packing best than SBS 3D? Why? And what about frame sequential?

SBS tends to be half-resolution (H-SBS) since it's normally a 'regular' 1080p video with half the image split for the one eye; and half for the other. The result is loss of half of the original video's resolution; not ideal.
Frame Packing is preferable since it's generally full-resolution (1080p) per eye; thus no loss of resolution.
That said, not all devices support it - the PS3, for instance, Frame Packs at downscaled 720p for most 3D games. Most would argue that this still looks better than half-resolution 1080p SBS, but it's a debate (see here).

I vastly prefer the appearance from 3D Frame-Packed blurays to any 3D SBS rip. In the case of Netflix (which I don't use myself), the bitrate of the Netflix 3D SBS stream (and thus the level of image quality) is much, much lower than of a Frame-Packed bluray. Remember the effect of 3D is produced by simply sending one image to one eye; and another to the other - so the 3D format - i.e. SBS or Frame-Packed - other than affecting resolution, shouldn't change the degree of pop-out if the source is the same. I wonder if Netflix isn't doing something to the source content to increase perceived pop-out when they encode it...

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What the default baud rate on the projector? I think I accidentally changed it.

Default value is 115200. But it doesn't matter since this value is only used when using the projector's Serial (RS-232) Port to connect to a PC; it's not used for anything else.
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Thanks for the explanation kreeturez.

So this could make a big difference in the image resolution of the projector, especially in a 135' screen like I have, right?

Is there any options (software or hardware) to do an upscale of  HSBS 3d from netflix to Frame Packs 1080p?

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Nope what I meant is PS3 does play 3D Blu Ray Movies with Depth only in Frame Packing Format with No 3D Pop Out Effect (FLAT).

 

 


However it does have great Pop Out Effect when playing downloaded movies or YouTube clips in Side By Side format only..

However the Sony BDP 5200 3D Blu Ray Player plays the same 3d Blu Ray Movie in Frame Packing Format
With both 3D Depth and 3D Pop Out.


Yes in my scenario I could literally see the difference between the players just for Frame Packing Format Only and also only with reference with 3D Pop Out Effect Only the mentioned Format.

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Even though the issue has been resolved.

 

Nevertheless I still prefer the Side By Side Format to watch 3D Movies as its just my personal preference, after watching Cable (Comcast) 3D movies in SBS mode. I personally feel they are just more objects flying out at your face in the SBS Mode.

 

Just my thought.....

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Is it worth getting a good stand alone bluray player or is the ps3 good enough. I run everything thru the ps3 but wouldn't mind getting it to last longer by getting a nice 3d bluray player. What is the best one to look at. Or will nothing beat the ps3
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Are you able to get the PS3 to play SBS with This Projector?

 

If you do,what are your settings?

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Are you able to get the PS3 to play SBS with This Projector?

 

If you do,what are your settings?


Games are frame-packed only.

Movies will play in SBS if the source video is already an SBS file.

Blurays only will play as frame-packed.

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Is it worth getting a good stand alone bluray player or is the ps3 good enough. I run everything thru the ps3 but wouldn't mind getting it to last longer by getting a nice 3d bluray player. What is the best one to look at. Or will nothing beat the ps3

As far as I know, the PS3 will do everything you need it to do unless you want to go all the way up to an Oppo. In which case, you're looking at $500 for a standalone BD player. (That said, from all reports--on here and elsewhere--the Oppo blows the socks off of everything else.)

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Samsung and Sony make decent 3d bluray players (100-200). Was just wondering if they are any better then ps3. I was told the ps3 has a fairly good bluray system.
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