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d19racing's Avatar d19racing 06:25 AM 06-11-2014
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Did you try changing the "screen size" setting in the PS3 and compare to pop out?supposedly, a small screen size settings improves the 3D.

Yes I did and that didnt have any effect at the time.

Movie78's Avatar Movie78 06:41 AM 06-11-2014
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Yes I did and that didnt have any effect at the time.

I think you need Turn Sequential Playback ON

 

VIDEO SETTING---->

Sequential Playback

 

ON

 


d19racing's Avatar d19racing 06:47 AM 06-11-2014
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I think you need Turn Sequential Playback ON

VIDEO SETTING---->

Sequential Playback




ON

 



That was turned on too and it still didnt work. Anyways the issue was rescued like said earlier with new Sony BDP 5200 3d blu ray player...
Movie78's Avatar Movie78 06:59 AM 06-11-2014
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That was turned on too and it still didnt work. Anyways the issue was rescued like said earlier with new Sony BDP 5200 3d blu ray player...

Can you play SBS with your Blu-ray player?


filtor's Avatar filtor 11:45 PM 06-11-2014
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Quote: Originally Posted by d19racing


That was turned on too and it still didnt work. Anyways the issue was rescued like said earlier with new Sony BDP 5200 3d blu ray player...

Can you play SBS with your Blu-ray player?
BD players play 3D in frame packing mode ... SBS is for 3D from 'other sources'.
eric3316's Avatar eric3316 05:26 AM 06-12-2014
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Was there ever a consensus on the fan issue being a firmware fix? I'm split between this and the optoma 131.
What's the fan issue?
kreeturez's Avatar kreeturez 05:33 AM 06-12-2014
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What's the fan issue?
Old units very frequently had rattling fans.

This hasn't been reported of late, though. (And my replacement unit from this year is non-rattling. My original from last year rattled).
eric3316's Avatar eric3316 05:44 AM 06-12-2014
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Old units had very frequently had rattling fans.

This hasn't been reported of late, though. (And my replacement unit from this year is non-rattling. My original from last year rattled);
No rattling on my W1070 manufactured in March 2014.
ryudoadema's Avatar ryudoadema 07:58 AM 06-12-2014
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No rattling on my W1070 manufactured in March 2014.
Same here
Nicktx27's Avatar Nicktx27 08:02 AM 06-12-2014
So it seems they have addressed and fixed the issue. Good to know!
tinzo's Avatar tinzo 08:18 AM 06-12-2014
guys,
is it worth it to upgrade from a mw519 to w1070?
my mw519 has great 2d image (110inch) but the 3d is somtimes too dark. last 3d movie i was watching was the hobbit 2 and in the dark scenes i removed my 3d glass to see what the hell is going on.

does w1070 have the same problem with the dark 3d scenes? sould i sell my mw519 and buy a w1070? will it be better?
kreeturez's Avatar kreeturez 01:54 PM 06-12-2014
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guys,
is it worth it to upgrade from a mw519 to w1070?
my mw519 has great 2d image (110inch) but the 3d is somtimes too dark. last 3d movie i was watching was the hobbit 2 and in the dark scenes i removed my 3d glass to see what the hell is going on.

does w1070 have the same problem with the dark 3d scenes? sould i sell my mw519 and buy a w1070? will it be better?

The MW519 is more of a data (i.e. "boardroom") projector; and as such it has a white segment in it's color wheel - thus it doesn't produce very color-accurate images.

As a result, Projector Central obtained a maximum of just 628 lumens when measuring color brightness.
That's very, very low. They also slated it's 3D performance, saying it had a "tendency for dark areas to take on a glossy look" when in 3D mode.

The W1070 measures more than double that brightness when calibrated and is generally considered a good 3D performer. Plus, being a 'home-theatre'-centric video projector, it uses a proper color wheel with no white segment.

TL;DR: Yes, this is an upgrade that ought to be well worth it for you.
bori's Avatar bori 04:11 PM 06-12-2014
Ok I added a second hdmi to my projector for 3d. But now having trouble switching inputs with harmony remote. It keeps tring to scroll through the unused inputs. Anyway to bypass this. Also when I select auto search in settings it reverts back to off after switching inputs. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
bori's Avatar bori 04:16 PM 06-12-2014
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tinzo's Avatar tinzo 04:38 PM 06-12-2014
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The MW519 is more of a data (i.e. "boardroom") projector; and as such it has a white segment in it's color wheel - thus it doesn't produce very color-accurate images.

As a result, Projector Central obtained a maximum of just 628 lumens when measuring color brightness.
That's very, very low. They also slated it's 3D performance, saying it had a "tendency for dark areas to take on a glossy look" when in 3D mode.

The W1070 measures more than double that brightness when calibrated and is generally considered a good 3D performer. Plus, being a 'home-theatre'-centric video projector, it uses a proper color wheel with no white segment.

TL;DR: Yes, this is an upgrade that ought to be well worth it for you.
Thanks,
My main problem is the 3d. I think the 2d image is fine. Tell me more about the dark 3d scenes. Do you need to remove your glass to see better. Or is it as good as I Max 3d? Where you watch entire move in comfort?
kreeturez's Avatar kreeturez 05:48 PM 06-12-2014
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Thanks,

My main problem is the 3d. I think the 2d image is fine. Tell me more about the dark 3d scenes. Do you need to remove your glass to see better. Or is it as good as I Max 3d? Where you watch entire move in comfort?


Coming from your current BenQ projector, you'll realize that even the 2D picture pales, comparatively (The resolution bump coupled with better color reproduction will contribute to this.)

Yes, full-length 3D movies look good. Shadow detail certainly isn't IMAX-quality but it's never too dark to actually see what's happening.
In your case, additional actual (not "claimed") brightness compared to your current projector is what's going to make the difference to your viewing.

If you can arrange a demo at a nearby store, I'd recommend you do so. You won't be disappointed.
ellisr63's Avatar ellisr63 06:26 PM 06-12-2014
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Was there ever a consensus on the fan issue being a firmware fix? I'm split between this and the optoma 131.
My replacement projector has firmware v108, and it is dead quiet!
kreeturez's Avatar kreeturez 06:43 PM 06-12-2014
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My replacement projector has firmware v108, and it is dead quiet!

I'm pretty sure it wasn't a firmware issue, though: on my original (fan-rattling) unit, upgrading firmware to 1.08 didn't help.
I suspect it was just hardware-related (i.e., a badly designed fan that's been replaced in recent hardware revisions).

250 hours on my Feb-2014-built unit (all in SmartEco mode) and still nice and quiet. Original unit rattled right out of the box.
ellisr63's Avatar ellisr63 07:18 PM 06-12-2014
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I'm pretty sure it wasn't a firmware issue, though: on my original (fan-rattling) unit, upgrading firmware to 1.08 didn't help.
I suspect it was just hardware-related (i.e., a badly designed fan that's been replaced in recent hardware revisions).

250 hours on my Feb-2014-built unit (all in SmartEco mode) and still nice and quiet. Original unit rattled right out of the box.
Don't know, but when I called tech support they said it was the firmware... They said they had to do the upgrade and I would have to send mine in. I said it was my only TV, and they accepted a deposit for another unit to be sent out to me. The new one is dead quiet and it was manufactured before my first one was.
kreeturez's Avatar kreeturez 07:42 PM 06-12-2014
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Don't know, but when I called tech support they said it was the firmware... They said they had to do the upgrade and I would have to send mine in. I said it was my only TV, and they accepted a deposit for another unit to be sent out to me. The new one is dead quiet and it was manufactured before my first one was.

I see... The fan issue was common in older units but also didn't affect every unit.
If the replacement was even older, might've even been a refurb that'd they'd replaced the fan on...

What's good is that this once-very-common issue is now rare in recent hardware revisions - and that both of us are sorted!
ellisr63's Avatar ellisr63 07:47 PM 06-12-2014
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I see... The fan issue was common in older units but also didn't affect every unit.
If the replacement was even older, might've even been a refurb that'd they'd replaced the fan on...

What's good is that this once-very-common issue is now rare in recent hardware revisions - and that both of us are sorted!
My replacement was a refurbished one... Didn't make any difference to me as I had close to 4k on the bulb and a warranty that expires in August.
eric3316's Avatar eric3316 05:26 AM 06-13-2014
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Originally Posted by kreeturez View Post
I'm pretty sure it wasn't a firmware issue, though: on my original (fan-rattling) unit, upgrading firmware to 1.08 didn't help.
I suspect it was just hardware-related (i.e., a badly designed fan that's been replaced in recent hardware revisions).

250 hours on my Feb-2014-built unit (all in SmartEco mode) and still nice and quiet. Original unit rattled right out of the box.
Do you watch on a dark or semi dark room? At night I watch with my lights outs or dimmed all the way down and have tried smarteco but the bright scenes are waaaaay to bright. It seems brighter in that mode then setting the lamp to normal. I hace to use the regular eco mode. Unless you turn your contrast way way down in smarteco?

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My replacement was a refurbished one... Didn't make any difference to me as I had close to 4k on the bulb and a warranty that expires in August.
Since it was a refurb, they very well could of physically repaired the fan.
kreeturez's Avatar kreeturez 06:19 AM 06-13-2014
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Since it was a refurb, they very well could of physically repaired the fan.
Yeah, my thoughts exactly (in my post after). It's likely that's why that unit was sent back to BenQ in the first place.

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Do you watch on a dark or semi dark room? At night I watch with my lights outs or dimmed all the way down and have tried smarteco but the bright scenes are waaaaay to bright. It seems brighter in that mode then setting the lamp to normal. I hace to use the regular eco mode. Unless you turn your contrast way way down in smarteco?
SmartEco is at least as bright as Normal (and, as you've seen, some reviewers have found it a touch brighter!). Impressive, then, that it's the mode with the highest claimed lamp life - and also impressive that so many people around here have achieved good lamp-life. We've seen many reports of comfortably above 4000 hours and still going.

When I first got the projector (both the original and the replacement), it was much too bright to be used in pitch darkness at 127" on my neutral-gain screen. This was on both SmartEco and Normal. (Eco I found a bit too dim).

My room is dark in terms of control of outside light coming in; but I often watch with a deliberate bit of light around since it's more comfortable.

However, the lamp does dim: my previous unit, I noticed a (much-welcomed!) decrease in brightness at around 200-300 hours; which is roughly where it stayed up until the 1500-hour mark (at which point I had it replaced).

My new unit has been the same: I've just hit 250 hours and it's now about as bright as my previous unit was at 1500 hours. And finally, it's comfortable enough for pitch-black-room use.

If you're under 200 hours, give it a bit of time to settle.

If you're significantly over 200 hours and it's still too bright, either investigate getting an ND filter; or increase your screen size (assuming you've got the space and screen real-estate); or consider a screen with lower gain: a slightly gray screen will drop brightness a bit and also improve black level.
Movie78's Avatar Movie78 06:37 AM 06-13-2014
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Yeah, my thoughts exactly (in my post after). It's likely that's why that unit was sent back to BenQ in the first place.



SmartEco is at least as bright as Normal (and, as you've seen, some reviewers have found it a touch brighter!). Impressive, then, that it's the mode with the highest claimed lamp life - and also impressive that so many people around here have achieved good lamp-life. We've seen many reports of comfortably above 4000 hours and still going.

When I first got the projector (both the original and the replacement), it was much too bright to be used in pitch darkness at 127" on my neutral-gain screen. This was on both SmartEco and Normal. (Eco I found a bit too dim).

My room is dark in terms of control of outside light coming in; but I often watch with a deliberate bit of light around since it's more comfortable.

However, the lamp does dim: my previous unit, I noticed a (much-welcomed!) decrease in brightness at around 200-300 hours; which is roughly where it stayed up until the 1500-hour mark (at which point I had it replaced).

My new unit has been the same: I've just hit 250 hours and it's now about as bright as my previous unit was at 1500 hours. And finally, it's comfortable enough for pitch-black-room use.

If you're under 200 hours, give it a bit of time to settle.

If you're significantly over 200 hours and it's still too bright, either investigate getting an ND filter; or increase your screen size (assuming you've got the space and screen real-estate); or consider a screen with lower gain: a slightly gray screen will drop brightness a bit and also improve black level.
How well does your Xtreamer Ultra 2 handles DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD?
kreeturez's Avatar kreeturez 07:15 AM 06-13-2014
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How well does your Xtreamer Ultra 2 handles DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD?
Perfectly. The combination of OpenELEC and the Nvidia ION 2 chipset offered by the Xtreamer 2 plays nicely with bitstreaming; DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD included.

That said, nowadays there're cheaper options available: the new Intel NUC's are worth investigation for new buyers.
bighvy76's Avatar bighvy76 07:38 AM 06-13-2014
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Perfectly. The combination of OpenELEC and the Nvidia ION 2 chipset offered by the Xtreamer 2 plays nicely with bitstreaming; DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD included.

That said, nowadays there're cheaper options available: the new Intel NUC's are worth investigation for new buyers.
so what exactly does a intel nuc do? Is it a stand alone mini pc or something?
eric3316's Avatar eric3316 08:50 AM 06-13-2014
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Originally Posted by kreeturez View Post
Yeah, my thoughts exactly (in my post after). It's likely that's why that unit was sent back to BenQ in the first place.



SmartEco is at least as bright as Normal (and, as you've seen, some reviewers have found it a touch brighter!). Impressive, then, that it's the mode with the highest claimed lamp life - and also impressive that so many people around here have achieved good lamp-life. We've seen many reports of comfortably above 4000 hours and still going.

When I first got the projector (both the original and the replacement), it was much too bright to be used in pitch darkness at 127" on my neutral-gain screen. This was on both SmartEco and Normal. (Eco I found a bit too dim).

My room is dark in terms of control of outside light coming in; but I often watch with a deliberate bit of light around since it's more comfortable.

However, the lamp does dim: my previous unit, I noticed a (much-welcomed!) decrease in brightness at around 200-300 hours; which is roughly where it stayed up until the 1500-hour mark (at which point I had it replaced).

My new unit has been the same: I've just hit 250 hours and it's now about as bright as my previous unit was at 1500 hours. And finally, it's comfortable enough for pitch-black-room use.

If you're under 200 hours, give it a bit of time to settle.

If you're significantly over 200 hours and it's still too bright, either investigate getting an ND filter; or increase your screen size (assuming you've got the space and screen real-estate); or consider a screen with lower gain: a slightly gray screen will drop brightness a bit and also improve black level.
Yeah, I am probably around 100 hours or so. I can't move my projector back any further. I am at 9.5ft on projecting on a 100" screen. The standard eco mode is great and I lower contrast to around 45. During the day if I need extra brightness I switch to smarteco which I find kind of a funny mode to switch to for extra brightness.
ellisr63's Avatar ellisr63 10:06 AM 06-13-2014
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Perfectly. The combination of OpenELEC and the Nvidia ION 2 chipset offered by the Xtreamer 2 plays nicely with bitstreaming; DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD included.

That said, nowadays there're cheaper options available: the new Intel NUC's are worth investigation for new buyers.
We have 2 i3 NUCs, and a Celeron NUC... We love them!
ellisr63's Avatar ellisr63 10:09 AM 06-13-2014
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so what exactly does a intel nuc do? Is it a stand alone mini pc or something?
They are about the size as a MAC Mini... My i3 NUCs are used as full fledged PCs and Media Servers for streaming 1080p movies. They only draw 25 watts max. We got them for 2 reasons: 1: small size, 2: energy efficiency.
ellisr63's Avatar ellisr63 10:10 AM 06-13-2014
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Originally Posted by kreeturez View Post
Yeah, my thoughts exactly (in my post after). It's likely that's why that unit was sent back to BenQ in the first place.



SmartEco is at least as bright as Normal (and, as you've seen, some reviewers have found it a touch brighter!). Impressive, then, that it's the mode with the highest claimed lamp life - and also impressive that so many people around here have achieved good lamp-life. We've seen many reports of comfortably above 4000 hours and still going.

When I first got the projector (both the original and the replacement), it was much too bright to be used in pitch darkness at 127" on my neutral-gain screen. This was on both SmartEco and Normal. (Eco I found a bit too dim).

My room is dark in terms of control of outside light coming in; but I often watch with a deliberate bit of light around since it's more comfortable.

However, the lamp does dim: my previous unit, I noticed a (much-welcomed!) decrease in brightness at around 200-300 hours; which is roughly where it stayed up until the 1500-hour mark (at which point I had it replaced).

My new unit has been the same: I've just hit 250 hours and it's now about as bright as my previous unit was at 1500 hours. And finally, it's comfortable enough for pitch-black-room use.

If you're under 200 hours, give it a bit of time to settle.

If you're significantly over 200 hours and it's still too bright, either investigate getting an ND filter; or increase your screen size (assuming you've got the space and screen real-estate); or consider a screen with lower gain: a slightly gray screen will drop brightness a bit and also improve black level.
Going bigger with the screen is always better IMO.
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