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Yes you did misunderstand my post. I was just referring to how older dlp pj's can look better than this one because dlp tech had made no advancements in a longtime. Yes this pj is a great deal being the lowest priced 1080p 3d dc3 dlp pj around.

But isn't DLP supposed to be better than 3LCD?
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Looks like it is finally available in the US. I would expect more places to add it in the next few days. I thought it may become available today or tomorrow because the Canadian deals seem like they all end today. You can still get it at NCIX from Canada for $850US though today only. It doesn't look like it will be as cheap here in the US, at least not at first.

Visual Apex $1099
http://www.visualapex.com/BenQ/Projector-Specifications.asp?For-The=W1070

New Egg $1299
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014321&Tpk=BenQ%20W1070
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Wow....I hope those prices come down pretty soon.

$1200-$1300, I think there are several better/proven choices around.
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Wow....I hope those prices come down pretty soon.
$1200-$1300, I think there are several better/proven choices around.

Like what?
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Yeah its a little dissapointing. Its MSRP is $999 and its street price is higher. Mabey it will come down quickly when the bigger places like Amazon stock it.
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Yeah its a little dissapointing. Its MSRP is $999 and its street price is higher. Mabey it will come down quickly when the bigger places like Amazon stock it.

I thought it was $1099.
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It is also on benq.us shop now, $ 1,099 but msrp 1,399 according to the benq shop. So I am not sure if 999 was ever the official msrp in the US.
I bought it on Visualapex a few weeks ago. It was supposed to ship on December 28th. Just called them and it's still on backorder even though visualapex changed the status on their website from eta end of December to available.
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How would it compare to an Epson 3020?
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Like what?


HD3300, and some 2D oldies like the 8350 or HC4000.
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Looks like it is finally available in the US. I would expect more places to add it in the next few days. I thought it may become available today or tomorrow because the Canadian deals seem like they all end today. You can still get it at NCIX from Canada for $850US though today only. It doesn't look like it will be as cheap here in the US, at least not at first.
Visual Apex $1099
http://www.visualapex.com/BenQ/Projector-Specifications.asp?For-The=W1070
New Egg $1299
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014321&Tpk=BenQ%20W1070


Newegg MSRP is $1699 btw...too funny.
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$1699 are they crazy?

Edit: Oh I see list price of $1300
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How did you get the movie to show on the bottom of the screen like that?
The image position doesn't change. The electric screen goes up a bit (bringing the bottom black border up) and the Mask (black foam boards attached to another electric screen) comes down and stops at a pre-programmed position.
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All of the early press releases stated that this projector would hit the North American markets with an MSRP of $999 US. You can still easily find them if you look. That was what was supposed to make this projector particularly special. It was to be the very first 1080p 3d projector sub $1000. Now its essentially the same price as the established Optoma HD33. I'll still get one because it has a shorter throw range than the Optoma which works better in my setup. It did come out in Canada for under $999 US. So in fact they didn't lie. Its just a tad more expensive in the US than many of us originally thought it would be. Not a deal breaker by any means.
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Just bought the Epson 3020 for 1200$ and its like dead silent, I can't hear the fan at all. The 3D is amazing and the 1080p content is breath taking. I don't know how the noise level, 3D and 1080p is on the Benq in comparison but I am very very happy with the Epson 3020 so far. It came with two rechargeable 3D glasses.
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How did you get the movie to show on the bottom of the screen like that?


If you compare the pictures side by side an note the background, the screen has been raised to line up with the movie.
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I was gonna pull the trigger on one when it hit the US, but until I can get one for $850 or less, I'm not. Too high right now, I'm sure it will come down in 2-3 months like the W7000 did
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Just bought the Epson 3020 for 1200$ and its like dead silent, I can't hear the fan at all. The 3D is amazing and the 1080p content is breath taking. I don't know how the noise level, 3D and 1080p is on the Benq in comparison but I am very very happy with the Epson 3020 so far. It came with two rechargeable 3D glasses.

So how do you think it compares to the W1070?
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So how do you think it compares to the W1070?

That's what i wanna hear also.. I was thinking swap my 3010 -> w1070.. just wondering is it good deal or not.
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Well I got tired of waiting for Art's review rolleyes.gif of this PJ and decided to just go for it and ordered one (didn't wanna miss the $850 sale pricing). All that time saving and preparing to buy a Viewsonic Pro8200 and I end up getting this BenQ tongue.gif Ordered a Draper Grey Accuscreen to compensate for ambient light in the room where Im putting this to help out so hopefully that works out as well. Im hoping the 2D performance of this PJ is on par with the VS Pro8200 and Ill be happy since that was the PJ I was going to end up getting and the 3D aspect will just be a bonus to have for myself.

Will report back how the PJ works out for me smile.gif
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Anyone mind sharing your settings? I know i cant rip them straight off, but as starting point. Brightness, contrast, gamma, sharpness, noisereduction, and so on..
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Why is this cheaper in Canada than in the States? Is this benq a Canadian company?
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Check the fine print on their Return policy...NCIX.com offers a 15-day Satisfaction Guarantee on many items that we sell. But read this... Satisfaction Guarantee excludes CRT monitors, LCD monitors, netbooks, notebook computers, mobile PCs, mobile phones, handhelds, PDAs, digital cameras (and accessories), projectors (and accessories), so it looks like if you buy it you own it, Even if it doesn't work out for you. Only returnable if DOA. Better wait for Amazon or a better US supplier with more purchaser friendly retailer. That price is tempting but if it doesn't work in my installation or I don't like the picture quality you are stuck with it.

I think it's worth the risk with such a big price difference. I'm checking the other projectors on the site among other things to see if it's cheaper to import, weird.

Edit: so there is the us site http://us.ncix.com and the ca site http://ncix.com ?

W1070 isn't on the us ncix site, only a bundle of the w710st.

This reminds me of the whole catleap monitor thing.
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Sounds like you're using an HTPC. 1080p60Hz (standard timing) would be the best for 2D.
3D on Xbox is confirmed working. For glasses that work with this Benq, check out this thread.
You would need an anamorphic lens to "morph" the projector output to either expand horizontally or squeeze vertically. Very complicated setup. The easiest is to do screen masking. Example: Without Masking. With Masking

Yes I am using a PC that is connected to the projector. I thought with an LCD projector, since films are recorded at 24fps, you would want the refresh rate of the lcd to be 24hz or multiples such as 48hz, so there would be less of a tearing effect? Wouldn't this be the same with DLP? Is 60hz the best for watching movies on this specific projector? What's all that 144hz 120hz talk then?

Okay it's cool that there are projectors out there that squeeze out those black borders if u need to b/c some movies aspect ratios are that wide....but are there any projectors out there that can have blacks so black even without that feature that it looks like it has that? Even when displaying a bright scene?
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I think it's worth the risk with such a big price difference. I'm checking the other projectors on the site among other things to see if it's cheaper to import, weird.

I agree, But what about warranty?

That may be a problem.

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There seems something wrong with the price being asked in the US. The Benq press release states that the M.A.P for the W1070 is about $1,000 and the W1080STP is $1,299. If the press release is correct the projector should sell for less that the M.A.P.

See press release below:

http://info.benq.us/blog/bid/253776/BenQ-America-previews-CES-2013
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So how do you think it compares to the W1070?

I don't know since I never actually used the 1070 but as per www.projectorcentral.com the Epson 3020 is 2nd place and the Benq 1070 is 7th for 3D projectors.

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I don't know since I never actually used the 1070 but as per www.projectorcentral.com the Epson 3020 is 2nd place and the Benq 1070 is 7th for 3D projectors.

Keep in mind that this pj requires the newer 144Hz refresh 3d glasses, which are only now becoming available. So earlier reviews may be somewhat tilted in the wrong direction.
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I don't know what sort criteria was used for this but it certainly wasn't image quality. Definately a misleading list of random names.

No kidding. when I was looking to chose a projector out of curiosity since Panasonic really disappointed me in lack of perfect blacks on their plasmas and dropped the ball in following Kuro's footsteps, I decided to check out this forum and read all the stuff. For me, motion and 3D are more important, and although the Epsons seem to have a bit better blacks, the contrast isn't much different, and for sure the 2D motion is better on DLP.


Also, I paid half price what the 3020 was going for when I pulled the trigger. That said, I'm not sure what the point is with bringing up the 3020 in this thread, it seems trollish to put up the reviews of random crap on the net that has no bearing on this PJ. Some random ranking page is not a reliable review site, but I don't really care how good / expensive the Epsons are. I made my purchasing decision and people who want to make an informed decision should read both threads in their entirety.

All that said, for the reduced price mentioned of the 3020 (that's not retail, btw) I could have bought 8 pairs of Sainsonic 3D glasses, 6 3D Blurays, and gotten better motion handling and gaming. All wins for me. Not sure if the Epson supports full 1080p / 60hz progressive in 3D, but my next PJ will probably be a 4k Benq when those hit the market in a few years. I don't see the need to upgrade from this. It's absolutely stunning and literally dozens and dozens of people have come over to place to drool at my 10 foot wide home theater. I love this PJ!!! Watched Fringe on it last night...SO sharp. I got the focus and alignment really good.

Can't wait to see what it looks like with a proper screen, maybe an ND2, a wide-angle lens, and proper calibration. My biggest issue so far hasn't been the projector, but getting my HDMI 1.3 receiver to stop dropping the audio from my HTPC when I use one port for my plasma and the DisplayPort for the PJ. AMD video cards are really annoying to set up for 3D games, it's always a hassle. Gonna pick up NVIDIA for sure next time. I recommend others do the same.
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Don't know how projectorcentral.com rank these but I sure know it ain't no random site, it has been there for years and it has pro users and actual users reviewing the projectors.
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