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niccolo's Avatar niccolo 02:56 PM 07-20-2014
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If I should have made my own thread, I apologize.
Ok, so after reading almost 10 pages of posts, I think you guys convinced me on this projector. My room is going to be a little tricky because it is not all squared up and I may have a few issues. As you can see, I have 2 front high speakers for my 7.2 system and these can't really be moved so I have to keep my screen centered. I added in red approximately where a 100" screen would be. My first question is, will that glass block wall on the right side be an issue with light coming in from the outside door in the background? My screen can not be fixed since my wife is barely on board with the idea of a projector so it has to retract to the ceiling. Most of the time we will watch at night so not a big deal.


My second issue is that using benq's calculator, of a 100" screen, sitting 13 feet away, it tells me the throw should be from 8'4'' to 10'10". At 10' 6" I have a can light that is in a direct line where the center of the screen will be. What would be the ideal spot to mount the projector? (pros and cons of having to use the zoom or having it close or far?)
If it is best to have it over 10' 6'', will that can light disrupt the projected image? Most of the time the light will be off so not a huge issue. (The center of screen would line up to the right side of the big couch in line with the recessed light in the picture)

Lastly, Almost all of my viewing will be from a htpc via hdmi. I have a few sbs 3d mkv movies and I use XMBC (super awesome by the way!) will those 3d movies work? I was reading on here that it only does a certain refresh rate or something that may have to be changed. I am confused.
Thanks for any help at all, I want to plan this thing out well in advance before I get into complications!
This projector focuses best when it's closest to the screen. But then it's more in your peripheral vision, a little brighter, and contrast is a little lower. I have mine the farthest distance from the screen and am quite happy with that placement, even if focus isn't quite as good across the full screen.

Scottathon's Avatar Scottathon 04:09 PM 07-20-2014
Well, I finally got fed up with my dust blobs and took the sucker apart. The pictures posted around June 1st were a good reference, as was the posted service manual. I made note of which screws were from which part as I was going, and eventually got my way into the DMD chip. I could see the tiny dust particles on it, so I carefully removed them with a cotton swab.

I carefully re-assembled it, following the service manual again in reverse, and now have something that resembles a projector again.

But alas, it won't power on. When I plug it in, there are no LEDs illuminated, and the faint whine that used to be present whenever the projector was plugged in is no longer there.

Could I have missed something when I put it back together, or is my unit toast?
sethsez 04:50 PM 07-20-2014
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Lastly, Almost all of my viewing will be from a htpc via hdmi. I have a few sbs 3d mkv movies and I use XMBC (super awesome by the way!) will those 3d movies work? I was reading on here that it only does a certain refresh rate or something that may have to be changed. I am confused.
They'll work just fine as long as you set XBMC to match the PC framerate to the video framerate before you start one up.

3D at 1080 maxes out at 24 FPS on this projector, which is perfectly fine for movies, but if you're feeding a 24 FPS video through a 60 FPS connection which is then converted back to 24 FPS you'll get some nasty motion artifacts. Setting XBMC to output the video's native framerate sidesteps this and gives you a nice, clean 24 FPS feed which isn't going through multiple conversions.

You'll also have to manually set the projector to SBS 3D mode every time you start one of those MKVs up, but that shouldn't be a big deal.
agent8's Avatar agent8 05:21 PM 07-20-2014
Cool! I have a budget of right around $1000 for projector, bracket and screen. I know many of you would pay a lot more for a screen but for $200 would you choose a Favi or an Elite Screen?

http://www.amazon.com/FAVI-100-inch-...ojector+screen
or
http://www.amazon.com/Elite-Screens-...ojector+screen

I have had VERY bad luck with tvs breaking right after warranty or having them repaired under warranty. What do you guys think about an extended warranty? I don't know much about Benq but it looks like they have a 3 year warranty which isn't too bad.
Dj_Frost's Avatar Dj_Frost 06:43 PM 07-20-2014
I received my second w1070 (first one was stolen) and the remote control has changed. I like it much more now.... not sure if it was mentioned or not on here.
Scottathon's Avatar Scottathon 06:48 PM 07-20-2014
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Well, I finally got fed up with my dust blobs and took the sucker apart. The pictures posted around June 1st were a good reference, as was the posted service manual. I made note of which screws were from which part as I was going, and eventually got my way into the DMD chip. I could see the tiny dust particles on it, so I carefully removed them with a cotton swab.

I carefully re-assembled it, following the service manual again in reverse, and now have something that resembles a projector again.

But alas, it won't power on. When I plug it in, there are no LEDs illuminated, and the faint whine that used to be present whenever the projector was plugged in is no longer there.

Could I have missed something when I put it back together, or is my unit toast?
I tried disassembling and reassembling it again. I think I didn't have the top board seated properly on top of the bottom board the first time. It now turns on, and now the the No Source screen is actually free of white spots. I'm a bit surprised it worked.

My next problem is that HDMI doesn't seem to work anymore. If I can get that sorted out, then I would wholeheartedly recommend cracking one's W1070 open and giving it a cleaning. I've never really taken electronics apart before, but it proved to be quite easy.
kreeturez's Avatar kreeturez 06:51 PM 07-20-2014
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I tried disassembling and reassembling it again. I think I didn't have the top board seated properly on top of the bottom board the first time. It now turns on, and now the the No Source screen is actually free of white spots. I'm a bit surprised it worked.

My next problem is that HDMI doesn't seem to work anymore. If I can get that sorted out, then I would wholeheartedly recommend cracking one's W1070 open and giving it a cleaning. I've never really taken electronics apart before, but it proved to be quite easy.

Try a 'Reset Settings to Default'?
Scottathon's Avatar Scottathon 07:02 PM 07-20-2014
I just tried a few different cables and eventually found one it likes. Huzzah!

I can finally watch movies with dark scenes again!

If anyone has any questions about the procedure, I can try to answer, but it was actually quite simple with the service manual nearby as a reference.

Thank you to everyone that has posted so much valuable information in this thread.
bori's Avatar bori 08:09 PM 07-20-2014
I a need some good advice from you experts or pics on how to cover or conceal a ceiling mounted projector.
HDTVChallenged's Avatar HDTVChallenged 10:58 PM 07-20-2014
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This chromatic aberration is normal for this projector. In addition, the projector doesn't seem to be able to focus perfectly across the full screen when mounted at distances other than the shortest possible throws (which is counterintuitive, one would expect it to be the other way around).
Interesting. Are there any similar "undocumented features" with respect to the lens-shift adjustment?
niccolo's Avatar niccolo 12:00 AM 07-21-2014
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Interesting. Are there any similar "undocumented features" with respect to the lens-shift adjustment?
I'm not aware of other significant flaws. I was struck recently that a friend's relatively inexpensive, older projector could perfectly focus the grid across the whole screen, because I assumed other cheaper projectors would also require a choice between perfect focus in the middle and perfect focus near the edges, as our Benq does at most throw ranges.

I'm not sure what you mean with the reference to lens shift.
bori's Avatar bori 02:55 AM 07-21-2014
I know this is not really meant for this thread. But I have read that plenty of people have the ELITE SCREENS. I found this schematic of the RJ45. What pins do I need to use to create a IR extender with an RJ45 cable? Do all I need to connect is the IR pins?
bori's Avatar bori 02:57 AM 07-21-2014
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I know this is not really meant for this thread. But I have read that plenty of people have the ELITE SCREENS. I found this schematic of the RJ45. What pins do I need to use to create a IR extender with an RJ45 cable? Do all I need to connect is the IR pins?
Here is the pic.
bluer101's Avatar bluer101 06:08 AM 07-21-2014
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Originally Posted by agent8 View Post
Cool! I have a budget of right around $1000 for projector, bracket and screen. I know many of you would pay a lot more for a screen but for $200 would you choose a Favi or an Elite Screen?

http://www.amazon.com/FAVI-100-inch-...ojector+screen
or
http://www.amazon.com/Elite-Screens-...ojector+screen

I have had VERY bad luck with tvs breaking right after warranty or having them repaired under warranty. What do you guys think about an extended warranty? I don't know much about Benq but it looks like they have a 3 year warranty which isn't too bad.
I have had the elite electric you posted since January and it's been great. Yes it has some waves and curling edges but for the price it's perfect. The only time I see the waves is if you have a slow panning scene In a movie. I did not want to spend big money when trying out the PJ for the first time. But now I love my front projection setup.
zchrisz's Avatar zchrisz 06:14 AM 07-21-2014
i'm still working on my room and i'm not sure what to do about a screen yet, currently projecting 100" on killz primer drywall and it looks really good, held blackout cloth up and i can't tell a difference.
bluer101's Avatar bluer101 06:19 AM 07-21-2014
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I know this is not really meant for this thread. But I have read that plenty of people have the ELITE SCREENS. I found this schematic of the RJ45. What pins do I need to use to create a IR extender with an RJ45 cable? Do all I need to connect is the IR pins?
I messed around with it a while ago. I tried putting a ir receiver into the wall box as it is not there by default. But the holes and diagram are present on the PC board.

After getting it all soldered in it would not work. After messing with it I was missing a one way resistor on the board to stop the 5 volt flow from the up down buttons. But after messing with it too much the whole PC board was burnt, lol.

I also played with a standard Ethernet cable with a it receiver.

Just take a Ethernet cable and cut off one end then per pinout wire the ir to the out and then 5 volt ground and 5 volt positive.

I can't remember if you need both ir wires or just one or the other.

I have an extra ir receiver from radio shack that I can play with to show you and take photos.
bori's Avatar bori 08:35 AM 07-21-2014
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I messed around with it a while ago. I tried putting a ir receiver into the wall box as it is not there by default. But the holes and diagram are present on the PC board.

After getting it all soldered in it would not work. After messing with it I was missing a one way resistor on the board to stop the 5 volt flow from the up down buttons. But after messing with it too much the whole PC board was burnt, lol.

I also played with a standard Ethernet cable with a it receiver.

Just take a Ethernet cable and cut off one end then per pinout wire the ir to the out and then 5 volt ground and 5 volt positive.

I can't remember if you need both ir wires or just one or the other.

I have an extra ir receiver from radio shack that I can play with to show you and take photos.

If you can please do. That wild be awesome. And that is to create something like this but just using a rj45 cable instead. Correct?

Infrared Receiver Extender Cable for HD DVR STB's *See Product Description for Compatibility* https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002JSDHCY/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_rtsZtb11CS8KBVRD
bluer101's Avatar bluer101 08:53 AM 07-21-2014
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If you can please do. That wild be awesome. And that is to create something like this but just using a rj45 cable instead. Correct?

Infrared Receiver Extender Cable for HD DVR STB's *See Product Description for Compatibility* https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002JSDHCY/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_rtsZtb11CS8KBVRD
Simple answer yes like that.

Elite does make one but it is really short but you can extend it. It's just cheaper to make your own. I think you can even get away without solidering it and using small electric crimp connectors. This way you can make it as long as you wish.

Here is the factory one. It's the wire on the right. You can see the little ir receiver.


bori's Avatar bori 09:35 AM 07-21-2014
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Simple answer yes like that.

Elite does make one but it is really short but you can extend it. It's just cheaper to make your own. I think you can even get away without solidering it and using small electric crimp connectors. This way you can make it as long as you wish.

Here is the factory one. It's the wire on the right. You can see the little ir receiver.


So you want have to attach it directly on the ir on the projector screen?
bluer101's Avatar bluer101 09:42 AM 07-21-2014
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So you want have to attach it directly on the ir on the projector screen?
You can put the ir wire and sensor where you want.
bori's Avatar bori 11:46 AM 07-21-2014
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You can put the ir wire and sensor where you want.
Ok great. Can you please post pics of yours when you are done?
tsaville's Avatar tsaville 12:36 PM 07-21-2014
I've been considering the jump to a projector (I currently have a 75" Samsung TV), and this BenQ has gotten my attention for the price and positive reviews.

My question is about the DLP. I'm one of the unlucky people who saw trailing rainbows on the early generation rear projection DLP TVs (I have no experience with newer ones). Will this be an issue for me on this projector, or has DLP technology improved?
shiseido's Avatar shiseido 01:18 PM 07-21-2014
well, ive never had a dlp and i can see rainbows with my w1070, in some music concerts, like adele or star wars movies (with the subtitles) but at least i can stand them, no headaches for now...
tsaville's Avatar tsaville 01:37 PM 07-21-2014
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well, ive never had a dlp and i can see rainbows with my w1070, in some music concerts, like adele or star wars movies (with the subtitles) but at least i can stand them, no headaches for now...
Well that's disappointing. I guess I'll need to redirect my search to finding the best non-DLP budget projector. Thanks for the reply.
kreeturez's Avatar kreeturez 04:08 PM 07-21-2014
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Originally Posted by tsaville View Post
I've been considering the jump to a projector (I currently have a 75" Samsung TV), and this BenQ has gotten my attention for the price and positive reviews.

My question is about the DLP. I'm one of the unlucky people who saw trailing rainbows on the early generation rear projection DLP TVs (I have no experience with newer ones). Will this be an issue for me on this projector, or has DLP technology improved?
well, ive never had a dlp and i can see rainbows with my w1070, in some music concerts, like adele or star wars movies (with the subtitles) but at least i can stand them, no headaches for now...
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Well that's disappointing. I guess I'll need to redirect my search to finding the best non-DLP budget projector. Thanks for the reply.

Definitely don't judge DLP performance based on early Rear-Projection units: these had color wheels that generally used to operate at around 1x speed; and RBE is why I wrote them off back then as well (I'm also very sensitive).

But things have changed a lot in the 5-10 years since RP has fallen out of favor: even today's lowest-end DLP projectors tend to have 2x color wheels; which decrease the likelihood of visible rainbow artifacts.

The W1070 takes this even further and has one of the fastest wheels on the market, taking it all the way up to 6x speed.
That's a serious improvement; and sufficient such that (when the wheel is running at full-speed), I practically don't notice rainbows at all.


(Side-note: There's one catch, though - in that the input framerate affects effective wheel speed. So a bluray running at native 24fps actually yields the W1070's slowest wheel speed - still above 2x, but below the maximum 6x. Broadcast HDTV at 60fps is much faster; and 50fps - used for European broadcasts - yields yet-faster full speed. This also explains why many will witness RBE when watching a bluray but not (or less so) when viewing a broadcast. Many bluray players offer the ability in their video settings to output at 60fps - if this is offered by your player and you're RBE sensitive, set it to do so. It's normally called something like 'Video Output at 24p' or the like; which you'd set to 'Disabled'. Using 50hz with my HTPC's, I see practically no more rainbows at all - even with white-on-black subtitles).


For this reason, I'd recommend you at least audition the projector before writing it off completely: you may be pleasantly surprised. See if you can arrange a viewing at your nearest AV store.

If it still doesn't work out, your only real other option in this price range is 3LCD technology; with Epson's 2030 probably being the best bet. It loses out significantly on contrast ratio, sharpness, and input lag; but it's also free of rainbows to everyone and has slightly better blacks. It does, however, offer a full 2-year warranty (compared to the 1-year offered by most of the competition; including the W1070).
agent8's Avatar agent8 05:29 PM 07-21-2014
I thought the 1070 now has a three year warranty? That could be a deal breaker for me.
kreeturez's Avatar kreeturez 05:36 PM 07-21-2014
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I thought the 1070 now has a three year warranty? That could be a deal breaker for me.
Negative; BenQ's official store page still indicates one year under the 'Warranty' section. This is standard across the industry at this price-point; with the only notable exception being Epson's 2030 (at two years).
The three-year warranties you get from stores like Amazon are 3rd-party.
shiseido's Avatar shiseido 05:42 PM 07-21-2014
youre right, i live in europe and with tv i dont see rbe (50hz) but my sony s390 i can disable the 24p and that way, show in 60hz (bds) but im not losing image quality? i think i see more rbe with smart eco on thant in eco mode.
ps, the star wars was with 24p, i need to see it again in 60hz (50hz aint possibe)
kreeturez's Avatar kreeturez 05:46 PM 07-21-2014
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youre right, i live in europe and with tv i dont see rbe (50hz) but my sony s390 i can disable the 24p and that way, show in 60hz (bds) but im not losing image quality?
ps, the star wars was with 24p, i need to see it again in 60hz (50hz aint possibe)
Nope, you're not losing image quality.

There will be a bit of pull-down that takes place which may be visible under some circumstances (panning, for instance); but it's not particularly noticeable. Also remember that many TV's don't natively support 24p either (so they'll render at 60hz anyway); which is why bluray players offer 24p as an option to begin with.
bluer101's Avatar bluer101 07:27 PM 07-21-2014
Here is the ir extender.







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