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I've always wondered why lens surrounds are often reflective silver, seems totally counterproductive. Just because it "looks cool"?
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On a separate note, I've noticed something odd. I have a W1070 with a Chief RSM mount with custom interface bracket mounted to a ceiling stud. I notice that when I fire up the cold projector, the image is always a little lower on my screen than it is by the time a film finishes and everything's warm. It moves about half an inch. I'm projecting a 119 inch diagonal 16:9 image from the max distance. Bizarre, frankly. The heat of the projector must be affecting the projector itself, the mount, or the ceiling drywall. Anyone experienced something similar?
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Anyone using a Harmony Ultimate? Please help... no matter what I do, the PJ won't turn off. I've tried what was suggested in this thread, but no luck. When I start an activity, the PJ powers on, but it won't power off. I've even gone into 'Devices' and tried 'PowerToggle', 'PowerOff' and 'PowerOn' and none do anything.

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On a separate note, I've noticed something odd. I have a W1070 with a Chief RSM mount with custom interface bracket mounted to a ceiling stud. I notice that when I fire up the cold projector, the image is always a little lower on my screen than it is by the time a film finishes and everything's warm. It moves about half an inch. I'm projecting a 119 inch diagonal 16:9 image from the max distance. Bizarre, frankly. The heat of the projector must be affecting the projector itself, the mount, or the ceiling drywall. Anyone experienced something similar?
That's really strange , I would think it has to be something internal, because the projector shouldn't be capable of putting off enough heat to warp the stud the mount is attached to , and even if it could , it wouldn't go back to the previous location. Might be something in the adjustment in the mount I suppose, maybe put a precision mark on the adjuster that works the direction of change and check it again once the projector is warmed up and the image has moved?
To add to the strange issues list , I had my PJ sitting on a stool right by my seating position for the first week and change of having it , was not bothered by the fan noise at all. I got my ceiling mount a couple days ago , mounted the unit , and now the fan is far more noticeable . I double checked the fan settings to see if I somehow switched to high altitude but thats not the case , everything is exactly the same , other than the PJ is upside down. Luckily its not TOO annoying when watching things , but I can't figure out why it would be , or seem louder.

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Agreed, I'm pretty sure it must be internal to the projector. That plastic creaking sound we all get as the projector expands under heat must be deforming it enough to shift the image a little. Which also suggests that others should be experiencing this.

Re your fan noise, I suspect the issue is that it's very directional, and you're now sitting in its path.
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Agreed, I'm pretty sure it must be internal to the projector. That plastic creaking sound we all get as the projector expands under heat must be deforming it enough to shift the image a little. Which also suggests that others should be experiencing this.

Re your fan noise, I suspect the issue is that it's very directional, and you're now sitting in its path.
I don't think I'm experiencing the shift , but I'm projecting on a painted wall with no border , so I might not notice a subtle shift in height. I've experimented with moving around the room in case my noise issue was exactly what you mentioned , but it doesn't seem to be that I am now in the path of a noise source. the only option I haven't examined yet is placing a piece of carpet on the ceiling above the PJ . As when it was on the bench the floor below has rug and carpet , so maybe the bare ceiling is reflecting noise that was not getting reflected when it was closer to the floor. I'm also hoping the lack of ability to get uniform focus is because my wall is so wavy that the image is warping , might be picking up a Carada screen this week for a steal , if I can live with the frame almost touching the side walls, so that should tell me if I have to return for lens problem or not. If I do , I'll mention excessive fan noise so they check that too.

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Agreed, I'm pretty sure it must be internal to the projector. That plastic creaking sound we all get as the projector expands under heat must be deforming it enough to shift the image a little. Which also suggests that others should be experiencing this
Perhaps the Lens Shift mechanism?
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You can't get uniform focus, except perhaps when the projector is mounted close to the screen and zoomed out.

Lens shift might be moving as a function of temperature, but pretty odd. At least it's fairly subtle.
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ProjectorReviews has just awarded the BenQ W1070 its 2014 "best-in-class" award in the sub-$2000 price bracket.

Not a bad performance considering the projector is nearly two years old.
And that it's real-world pricing is only a little over a third of that bracket's maximum price.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/best...00-benq-w1070/
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ProjectorReviews has just awarded the BenQ W1070 its 2014 "best-in-class" award in the sub-$2000 price bracket.

Not a bad performance considering the projector is nearly two years old.
And that it's real-world pricing is only a little over a third of that bracket's maximum price.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/best...00-benq-w1070/
Waiting until October to buy, but I still haven't found a better deal under $2000. I went in with a $1,500 budget, I'm more than a little shocked I'm going to come in so far under budget.

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Waiting until October to buy, but I still haven't found a better deal under $2000. I went in with a $1,500 budget, I'm more than a little shocked I'm going to come in so far under budget.
It is certainly up to you (and your pocket book) but I wouldn't recommend just waiting around until October and then buying, I would watch the deals and sales and check the prices. You can even setup an account at CamelCamelCamel and be notified when the price drops.

I had planned to wait until I moved in October to buy it but I got such a good deal on a brand new one from Amazon in late May (around $650 including tax and shipping) that I just couldn't justify waiting a few months and then paying over $100 more.
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I get cash back from Amazon on my credit card in October, so there is the incentive. Of course, if something comes along that I can't pass up first I'll make the jump.

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Just wanted to add.. I have around 1800 hrs on my benq.. Still looks great. 120 screen. We use it to watch everything...we use it just like a req tv.

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I bought a refurb, which ended up having a loud, chirping, fan... so the replacement arrived today - much quieter, no chirping. BUT, it looks like there might be a problem with it.

Please see the images of both screens with test patterns...
first photo = replacement PJ with the lower-right side seems to be slanting inward - definitely not a keystone issue.
second photo = original PJ, no such issue - very even rectangle all around.

This is a unfixable defect or something I can correct easily?

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I bought a refurb, which ended up having a loud, chirping, fan... so the replacement arrived today - much quieter, no chirping. BUT, it looks like there might be a problem with it.

Please see the images of both screens with test patterns...
first photo = replacement PJ with the lower-right side seems to be slanting inward - definitely not a keystone issue.
second photo = original PJ, no such issue - very even rectangle all around.

This is a unfixable defect or something I can correct easily?

thx
First , thanks for posting the discount on refurb straight from Benq , that pushed me into picking one up , price was too good to pass up! What is your screen mounted on ? The screen is crooked looking at the picture the right side of your screen is lower than the left, so I'm wondering if other things are misaligned . I would make sure the screen surface is aligned with the projector and top and bottom are parallel to horizontal . If it still looks like the image is canted , try putting the PJ on a table closer to the screen and see if you can adjust it so the test pattern is square. If you can get it dialed in on the table at a smaller screen size then I believe that would indicate that the lens is fine. I checked mine on a stool before ceiling mounting and the test pattern was nice and square , but it's a major PITA to match that with it hanging, probably because I bought a $25 mount from amazon.
I am just learning all this , so don't put too much weight on what I'm suggesting , hopefully someone with more PJ experience will chime in. Good luck

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Does anyone know what would be an ideal area to paint the ceiling in front of the projector to minimize reflections? I painted my entire room a dark grey but didn't want to go all out with the ceiling because it is a family hang out room as well. The projector area is in a recessed area so it won't look to bad if I just do a few feet in front of the screen. Does anyone know how far in front the most reflections take place? I was thinking probably the height of the screen would make the most sense but not sure.

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My screen is level. You can see on of the photos shows the first pj is fine... Only my photos are not straight. :-)

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Quick question: is there any issue with Rev 01-107 W1070? Manufacture date is Jan 2014. Just wondering, and anyone know what firmware version this might be (still in the box)?
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BenQ W1070 : DLP Full HD, 3D Ready with lens-shift for 1000$

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Quick question: is there any issue with Rev 01-107 W1070? Manufacture date is Jan 2014. Just wondering, and anyone know what firmware version this might be (still in the box)?

That's the same hardware revision (and manufacture date, actually) that I'm using - I believe 01-107 is the most recent hardware revision released. No problems that affected my older unit on this one (ie no chirping fan noise, no high-pitched sound when plugged in and on standby mode, good brightness uniformity, came with a backlit remote). So far so good 6 months later at 550 hours: I reckon you'll be more than satisfied.

Mine came with Firmware 1.08 (which is the latest firmware) so I'd expect yours to be the same.

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That's the same hardware revision (and manufacture date, actually) that I'm using - I believe 01-107 is the most recent hardware revision released. No problems that affected my older unit on this one (ie no chirping fan noise, no high-pitched sound when plugged in and on standby mode, good brightness uniformity, came with a backlit remote). So far so good 6 months later at 550 hours: I reckon you'll be more than satisfied.

Mine came with Firmware 1.08 (which is the latest firmware) so I'd expect yours to be the same.
Great thanks for the info.

Is there any tests I can run in order to confirm everything is running as expected? Any tools to test alignment, black levels and the like?
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Great thanks for the info.

Is there any tests I can run in order to confirm everything is running as expected? Any tools to test alignment, black levels and the like?

Consumer DLP projectors don't use separate imaging panels so there's nothing to align... Black levels won't differ between units.

The best test? Unbox, plug in a bluray player and enjoy some movies!

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My screen is level. You can see on of the photos shows the first pj is fine... Only my photos are not straight. :-)

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I don't know if its an optical illusion , or the wall or column to the right of your screen that is crooked , but it looks like the screen , and the projected image are tilted down on the right looking at the top of the screen and projected image. The wall or column on the right side shows that it is not parallel to the far right side of your screen , thats what I was basing my suggestion on , of course I haven't put a level on anything in your house , so I was only basing that on what I saw in the images. Sorry to not be able to help.

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Does anyone know what would be an ideal area to paint the ceiling in front of the projector to minimize reflections? I painted my entire room a dark grey but didn't want to go all out with the ceiling because it is a family hang out room as well. The projector area is in a recessed area so it won't look to bad if I just do a few feet in front of the screen. Does anyone know how far in front the most reflections take place? I was thinking probably the height of the screen would make the most sense but not sure.

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I don't believe there's a true "ideal" area (besides total blackout, :P) and the general word seems simply the more the better. I'd think darkening the ceiling an entire screen-height worth should be pretty good and more than many have done.
Sounds like a really nice room in total. Nice enough that (budget allowing) if you ever end up going with a really higher-end projector someday, it won't be wasted on your room.

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This is what I was seeing making me think the screen wasn't level
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I don't believe there's a true "ideal" area (besides total blackout, :P) and the general word seems simply the more the better. I'd think darkening the ceiling an entire screen-height worth should be pretty good and more than many have done.
Sounds like a really nice room in total. Nice enough that (budget allowing) if you ever end up going with a really higher-end projector someday, it won't be wasted on your room.
I painted the ceiling 5' back from the wall the screen will be on. For some reason, buying a new low profile AV rack, painting the walls, mounting the projector didn't really make me feel any different but painting the top of the ceiling 5 feet makes the room look so different and gives me an "all in" feeling. Not sure how I like it yet but when I step into that area it really works. It's dark in that area.
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Anyone using a Harmony Ultimate? Please help... no matter what I do, the PJ won't turn off. I've tried what was suggested in this thread, but no luck. When I start an activity, the PJ powers on, but it won't power off. I've even gone into 'Devices' and tried 'PowerToggle', 'PowerOff' and 'PowerOn' and none do anything.
I programed my Harmony 650 for use with this projector yesterday and these are the settings I used on the first attempt which worked flawlessly for me.

Within the settings for the actual device, not a specific activity, go through the prompts to change the way the device powers on and off. Click that there are separate buttons for on and off. You will be brought to a menu with the power on action/sequence which is used in all activities or when you globally power you system up or down. Below the power on settings expand the power off settings option. Despite selecting that your projector has separate buttons for power on and off you will see that Logitech has setup the sequence with two (2) power toggle commands being sent. (I just set mine up yesterday, if yours is different by default than Logitech must have updated the default and you will either want to somehow get their new settings imported or re-ad the device). After reading all of the posts here and elsewhere regarding the trouble powering this unit down with the Harmony I made some tweaks before I ever attempted to use their settings.

First, I changed the time for each "power toggle" button press to .5 sec.

Next, I added two additional commands to send the "power off" command two (2) separate times after the two (2) "power toggle" commands. Thus I had 2 power toggles followed by 2 power offs.

Finally, I added a delay of approx 700 ms between each command.

(As an additional note which I do not believe is relevant here I also changed the global settings for this device to slightly increase the delay between sending input commands. As i did not try without this setting I am including this step in case the settings I described above do not work).

After adding all of these commands to the power down option I have successfully powered the unit off 10 plus times without a single fail as part of a total system power down from an activity with my Harmony remote. Even with the delays ect. I added the remote clears its screen from the power off button press within a half a second, unlike when you turn the activity on and you have to wait for the remote to go through all its commands. Regardless I can see that the full action is working as I get the message about pressing power a second time for about 1 second or less before it receives the second power off command necessary to power down the projector. As the second two commands are power off and not toggle I have had no issue with the unit turning back on. I am not sure if 4 commands to power off is necessary but it is not hurting anything and it has yet to not work.

I hope this can provide some help to those of you who have been struggling wit this issue in being unable to power off the BenQ W1070 with the Harmony remote.
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It is certainly up to you (and your pocket book) but I wouldn't recommend just waiting around until October and then buying, I would watch the deals and sales and check the prices. You can even setup an account at CamelCamelCamel and be notified when the price drops.

I had planned to wait until I moved in October to buy it but I got such a good deal on a brand new one from Amazon in late May (around $650 including tax and shipping) that I just couldn't justify waiting a few months and then paying over $100 more.
I bought mine in June on Amazon for $700 on a Prime account with no tax/free shipping. I was also going to wait but I could not refuse at that price. It was new in box and not a refurb. I had been checking on the price every day and was amazed to see how much it actually fluctuated. At the time I was actually looking at Epson 5030's at around $2,500 but figured that for the price it was worth trying the BenQ knowing I could always return it or worst case with the built in speaker I could use it outside. Initially upon powering it up I was not impressed. The black levels were bad and the color was saturated regardless of what setting's I used. I then tweaked the unit using settings I found here as a starting point in the User 1 profile. Again after entering the detailed settings I was even less impressed as the settings made everything look washed out and dull. However, I began to play with the basic settings at that point, brightness, contrast and gamma to really tweak the unit for my viewing area. I left all the advanced color options I had found settings for (color specific) alone. After some basic tweaking I was absolutely blown away by the quality of the picture. I have not even thought twice about upgrading to the Epson. For the difference in price it is simply not worth it for the modest improvement in picture. Depending on your budget that money will be much better spent on a high quality surround sound system.

It is simply amazing how sensitive this projector, and likely all projectors, are to their viewing environment. What works for some setting wise will be completely off for others. However, I found the advanced color settings to be pretty close on my unit to what others were reporting. It is easy to tweak the other basic settings to your liking and it makes all the difference in the world. I would also suggest that darkening your viewing environment including the wall behind the projector will greatly improve your viewing experience. In short I would not hesitate to buy this unit as after some basic settings adjustments it is a rockstar.

In response to some of the posts regarding the tilt and leveling of the unit I put mine on a Monoprice ceiling mount and was completely baffled as to how to get it to level on my screen (which was indeed level). The directions for the mount were not great and I also noticed the projector was a little off when testing on a stand prior to mounting. To fix the problem when mounted I began to play with the screws, both in the ceiling and holding the mount to the projector. I did nothing major to compromise the security of the projector to the mount but it is amazing what a quarter of a turn to a specific screw will do to tilt the projector just enough on one side or the other to level off the image being projected. It also worked to lower or raise the picture at least half the 100in screen size where the lens shift could not reach. This did way more than even changing the mounting pole height and not I have a completely secure ceiling mounted unit with a completely level image being projected.
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I think this would be a good fan replacement not perfect but good:

ADDA AD07012

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-...955947634.html

http://www.amazon.com/AD07012DX25760...D07012DX257600

Today I have tried to run Noctua A-Series NF-A6x25 instead of the front 70mm fan, but for some reason it did not run at all, like there was not enough juice to drive it, or something just did not match.

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@eml626 ... What were your final PJ setting?

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