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BenQ W1070 : DLP Full HD, 3D Ready with lens-shift for 1000$

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Is it normal to notice a slight flicker for a second every now and then when the projector goes from a dark scene to very light in smart eco?Doesnt happen on Eco or normal.I rarely notice it but sometimes when I'm viewing a web page on my hptc and go from dark page straight to google homepage, there's a very slight flicker for a second or so.


Yeah, it's normal. SmartEco dynamically changes the amount of power going to the lamp based on image brightness (scoring extra lamp life and perceived contrast without losing any brightness); but at the expense of occasional brightness flicker. It's sometimes noticeable in video as well (certain very-dark to very-bright scenes - just like your example).

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Is it normal to notice a slight flicker for a second every now and then when the projector goes from a dark scene to very light in smart eco?Doesnt happen on Eco or normal.I rarely notice it but sometimes when I'm viewing a web page on my hptc and go from dark page straight to google homepage, there's a very slight flicker for a second or so.
Yes, that is what Smart-Eco does -- it changes the wattage to the lamp based on the brightness of the content.

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Yeah, it's normal. SmartEco dynamically changes the amount of power going to the lamp based on image brightness (scoring extra lamp life and perceived contrast without losing any brightness); but at the expense of occasional brightness flicker. It's sometimes noticeable in video as well (certain very-dark to very-bright scenes - just like your example).

How's the projector treating you? Worthwhile upgrade from your old one?

That's great to hear,was worried for a moment.Yes it's great, I ordered it straight after reading your reply to me saying the w1070 was twice as bright as the hd200x, and you were not wrong!went from a 120 inch screen to roughly 144inch too!thanks for your help
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120 Hour Update: Not a single issue so far, no bright spots, no issues getting the entire test grid in frame, no goofy fans. Loving this thing so much. Games on the PS4 look beautiful, my Samsung BD-H6500 throws it a fantastic 2d and 3d image, I have no complaints about this thing at all!
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Could someone with the W1070 and 3D using a computer PLEASE let me know what your setup is?
I'm having the worst time with this.

1) What video card do you have?
2) What software media player are you using?
3) What video resolution are you sending to the projector?

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Could someone with the W1070 and 3D using a computer PLEASE let me know what your setup is?
I'm having the worst time with this.

1) What video card do you have?
2) What software media player are you using?
3) What video resolution are you sending to the projector?
1. Laptop w/ intel-integrated graphics atom-quad-core
Desktop w/ radeon 6770
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3. The computer resolution is set to 1080x1920 3D-compatible. The videos were mostly 720p 3D downloads from youtube.

Most important thing was making sure the computer realized to use it as a 3D compatible monitor and not just the plain 1080x1920. It was pretty plug-n-play after the first video.
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3. The computer resolution is set to 1080x1920 3D-compatible. The videos were mostly 720p 3D downloads from youtube.

Most important thing was making sure the computer realized to use it as a 3D compatible monitor and not just the plain 1080x1920. It was pretty plug-n-play after the first video.
Thank you for responding!!
How did you do these two things that I quoted above?
My W1070 comes up as a generic monitor driver in Device Manager. Maybe that's part of the problem? I Googled up for a W1070 but couldn't find anything.

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Thank you for responding!!
How did you do these two things that I quoted above?
My W1070 comes up as a generic monitor driver in Device Manager. Maybe that's part of the problem? I Googled up for a W1070 but couldn't find anything.
Just hovering the mouse over a blank space of desktop, right-click brings up that short menu with "screen resolution" as an option. Clicking on the resolution options inside that usually shows 720, 1080, 1080-3D..as long as the w1070 is the only monitor attached.

If you're using two monitors at once, make sure the desktop is extended and NOT duplicated. And make sure you're messing with the right one and not your regular screen.

I luckily didn't have to get into the device manager.
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Could someone with the W1070 and 3D using a computer PLEASE let me know what your setup is?
I'm having the worst time with this.

1) What video card do you have?
2) What software media player are you using?
3) What video resolution are you sending to the projector?
1. AMD 7870
2. 2D --> 10GB minimum up to full remux quality 1080p rips Via MPC-hc (via XBMC external player) with MadVR and SVP
2b. 3D --> Full 3D BluRays running in PowerDvd.
3. 2D --> 1080p @ 50 Hz (less RBE) and full RGB
3b. 3D --> 1080p @ 24 and frame packing
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Just hovering the mouse over a blank space of desktop, right-click brings up that short menu with "screen resolution" as an option. Clicking on the resolution options inside that usually shows 720, 1080, 1080-3D..as long as the w1070 is the only monitor attached.

If you're using two monitors at once, make sure the desktop is extended and NOT duplicated. And make sure you're messing with the right one and not your regular screen.
This was perfect. Exactly what I needed to fix things. THANKS!
I did an OS re-install.
Went with Win10 though.
And only the projector connected during the install.
Right away, the projector came up as "generic".
But some time after installing the latest nVidia driver, the projector started to show up as "BenQ Projector" and I found a new option to enable 3D on supported displays.
Used PowerDVD14 and got 3D working great!

Once I connected my desktop monitor and set things to duplicate on both screens, I lost the 3D capability.
So I did as you suggested and set it to "extend desktop" and that worked.
And the extend desktop seems to work a lot nicer on Win10 than it did back in XP when I last tried it.
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This was perfect. Exactly what I needed to fix things. THANKS!
I did an OS re-install.
Went with Win10 though.
And only the projector connected during the install.
Right away, the projector came up as "generic".
But some time after installing the latest nVidia driver, the projector started to show up as "BenQ Projector" and I found a new option to enable 3D on supported displays.
Used PowerDVD14 and got 3D working great!

Once I connected my desktop monitor and set things to duplicate on both screens, I lost the 3D capability.
So I did as you suggested and set it to "extend desktop" and that worked.
And the extend desktop seems to work a lot nicer on Win10 than it did back in XP when I last tried it.
Off Topic, but is PowerDVD14 playing blurays for you without issues for sound and menu access for special features ? Also, does it have cropping and scaling aspect ratios that are better than the W1070's "Letterbox" vertical stretch ?

Looking at the HTPC forums I got the impression that playing blurays was more problematic than using an HTPC for DVDs ever was.

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Some pleasant surprises ...

So ... I finally have my W1070 set up. I used settings posted here and then using the Disney WOW disc I tweaked the Conrast a bit.

It is actually sitting 2' from me on the couch next to me temporarily. The pleasant surprises are that I can't hear the fan in Smart Eco mode and I haven't noticed image flicker when going from dark to bright scenes. I am a bit surprised that in an indoor scene changing lamp power from Smart Eco to Normal makes no difference, as though even an indoor scene is bright enough to keep it in highest wattage.

Sharpness seems focused across the screen and brightness seems uniform with no stuck pixels or blotches. So far , so good.

It is filling my 122" Vutec matte white screen and I'm watching The Fifth Element.

Black levels will require masking for 2.40:1 content, but with that done, I don't know that I would be able to complain vs my JVC RS1. I can't compare them at the moment, as my JVC died the other night and a known-working lamp didn't help. That is what prompted me to pull the trigger on the W1070, since this is my only TV.

So the RS1 may never be available for the direct comparison I wanted to do; but there is a chance it is just a failed fan rather than a circuit board, and if that is all it is, then I'll have the dual projector setup I want.

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One small problem. My HK AVR247 doesn't pass 1080P/24 from my Samsung BD player to the W1070 -- it shows up on the W1070 info page as 1080i/60.

Connecting the 25' HDMI cable directly to the W1070, 1080P/24 syncs up fine, so it is the 247 that claims it is simply doing HDMI passthru that is the problem. The 247 was reported to have problems with 1080P but only with dropouts and sparklies noise when hot, not failing to pass the 1080P signal at all.

Unfortunately, the Samsung BD player has no coaxial or TOSLINK audio out, only HDMI. So it looks like I'll be needing a 4x2 HDMI switch -- one output to carry the video to the W1070 and the other to carry 7.1 over HDMI to the 247.

Anybody have a recommendation for a good HDMI switch with remote ? In the meantime, I am limited to 1080i.

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I seem to have developed fan rattle less than 50 hours in, is this grounds for a return or is it seen on all units?
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I seem to have developed fan rattle less than 50 hours in, is this grounds for a return or is it seen on all units?
That few hours in rattling seemed to be a problem for an entire production run of 1070's not too long ago. Get it exchanged if it's at all bothersome. There's a very good chance the replacement will be better behaved.
If at all possible, get it replaced with new instead of refurb..not that you may have a choice, but it's worth arguing for if you are able.

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Off Topic, but is PowerDVD14 playing blurays for you without issues for sound and menu access for special features ? Also, does it have cropping and scaling aspect ratios that are better than the W1070's "Letterbox" vertical stretch ?

Looking at the HTPC forums I got the impression that playing blurays was more problematic than using an HTPC for DVDs ever was.
If you give me some specific tests to do and tell me how to do them, then I can check.
I only played the BluRay long enough to verify 3D is working.
Haven't watched any full length movies yet.
I may not be much help with the audio though.
I'm strictly two channel. So surround modes can't be tested.

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Watched my 1st 3d movie Friday night. Very cool. I'm digging it!
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For anyone on the fence about this projector, you can get it for $656 from Newegg using coupon code EMCWWWG44. Coupon only works until 11/19 (3 days). I just bought it. This will be my first home projector. Pretty damn excited. I'll do my best to search, but be prepared for noob questions. =P
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For anyone on the fence about this projector, you can get it for $656 from Newegg using coupon code EMCWWWG44. Coupon only works until 11/19 (3 days). I just bought it. This will be my first home projector. Pretty damn excited. I'll do my best to search, but be prepared for noob questions. =P
I knew it would go on sales right after I bought it !

I chatted with Amazon and they don't match Newegg prices for anything except TVs and cellphones. Still, the Amazon price has dropped to $699 so they gave me a $29 credit since I bought less than 7 days ago for $728.

I tried to talk them into lowering their own price to match the Newegg price with the 10% coupon before issuing the credit, but no go. Still, if some others let them know about the Newegg deal, they might lower their price to match.

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One small problem. My HK AVR247 doesn't pass 1080P/24 from my Samsung BD player to the W1070 -- it shows up on the W1070 info page as 1080i/60.

Connecting the 25' HDMI cable directly to the W1070, 1080P/24 syncs up fine, so it is the 247 that claims it is simply doing HDMI passthru that is the problem. The 247 was reported to have problems with 1080P but only with dropouts and sparklies noise when hot, not failing to pass the 1080P signal at all.

Unfortunately, the Samsung BD player has no coaxial or TOSLINK audio out, only HDMI. So it looks like I'll be needing a 4x2 HDMI switch -- one output to carry the video to the W1070 and the other to carry 7.1 over HDMI to the 247.

Anybody have a recommendation for a good HDMI switch with remote ? In the meantime, I am limited to 1080i.
This one from Monoprice worked well for me as it allowed me to use the toslink connection on my receiver.

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...seq=1&format=2
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For anyone on the fence about this projector, you can get it for $656 from Newegg using coupon code EMCWWWG44. Coupon only works until 11/19 (3 days). I just bought it. This will be my first home projector. Pretty damn excited. I'll do my best to search, but be prepared for noob questions. =P
Nice find! You will be blown away by how awesome this projector is for that price. Good luck and enjoy!
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This one from Monoprice worked well for me as it allowed me to use the toslink connection on my receiver.

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...seq=1&format=2
Thanks, that looks like it might work. If I can get my second projector working again, do you know if a splitter placed on this switches HDMI output will work ?

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This one from Monoprice worked well for me as it allowed me to use the toslink connection on my receiver.

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...seq=1&format=2

I have considered this but there was a statement puts me off:
* The S/PDIF Optical (Toslink) and Digital Coax audio output formats are based on the HDMI audio output. If any of the sync devices (e.g., HDTV, Projector, etc.) connected to the output can only support stereo audio, then the S/PDIF Optical (Toslink) and Digital Coaxial outputs will be limited to PCM stereo audio.

The Benq HDMI input obviously only supports stereo audio, does it mean the switcher can only output stereo S/PDIF to amp?

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I have considered this but there was a statement puts me off:
* The S/PDIF Optical (Toslink) and Digital Coax audio output formats are based on the HDMI audio output. If any of the sync devices (e.g., HDTV, Projector, etc.) connected to the output can only support stereo audio, then the S/PDIF Optical (Toslink) and Digital Coaxial outputs will be limited to PCM stereo audio.

The Benq HDMI obviously only support stereo audio, does it can only output stereo S/PDIF to amp?
That is my concern as well. But since many projectors don't have any speaker at all, if the switch functioned that way, it would be pretty much useless. It just seems unlikely. My other concern is whether the TOSLINK connection can carry the full 7.1 surround modes. Many of the descriptions of switches with optical audio out mention "up to 5.1".

This is why I asked for recommendations from people that actually use them, because the descriptions make them sound like they won't work for 7.1 to the AVR and HDMI to projectors with no or just stereo sound.

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That is my concern as well. But since many projectors don't have any speaker at all, if the switch functioned that way, it would be pretty much useless. It just seems unlikely. My other concern is whether the TOSLINK connection can carry the full 7.1 surround modes. Many of the descriptions of switches with optical audio out mention "up to 5.1".

This is why I asked for recommendations from people that actually use them, because the descriptions make them sound like they won't work for 7.1 to the AVR and HDMI to projectors with no or just stereo sound.
If a DTS-HD signal, the switch will extract the DTS core for Toslink to send to receiver. My receiver shows "DTS" when I used it. Worked great when I had a Raspberry Pi running XBMC as it only had an HDMI for multi-channel audio.

The poster above has an older receiver and won't utilize DTS-HD, just DTS.

I've also used this on the BenQ and Samsung plasma, both of which are two channel. Always outputs DTS not 2- channel PCM
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I would recommend the Optoma HD25-LV over this model in my opinion.
I ordered an Optoma HD26 and a Benq w1070 and kept both for 3 weeks. After watching both for about 20 hours each I sent the Optoma back for a refund. Although both put out a nice sharp picture for there price, the W1070 color balance was noticeably better, especially when comparing skin tones. I've now owned 4 different PJ's, the other 3 we're Optoma's(H57,HD20,HD26) and I wouldn't give up the w1070 for any of them. And there is my 2 cents.
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I would recommend the Optoma HD25-LV over this model in my opinion.
Why would you recommend a projector which repeatedly tests with weaker colors and more noise in the image? The color light output of the HD25-LV is also phenomenally lower than the pure white level output, making this projector potentially dimmer once calibrated. As well, it uses a 2x color wheel instead of a 4x-6x model.

So, while I understand that the HD25 is your opinion, the recommendation for the W1070 is not based as much on opinion for most, as it is based on the performance that the W1070 has delivered for people that want the greatest quality for their home theater setup on a budget.

To that end, for the second year in a row, Projector Central has named the W1070 the projector to use for home theater setups (well the barely different W1075):
http://www.projectorcentral.com/best...ge=BenQ-HT1075

There are few times, by the specs, that I would recommend an inferior projector. Price and placement flexibility are two considerations though, and the HD25-LV certainly isn't a bad projector and should be recommended when appropriate.
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If a DTS-HD signal, the switch will extract the DTS core for Toslink to send to receiver. My receiver shows "DTS" when I used it. Worked great when I had a Raspberry Pi running XBMC as it only had an HDMI for multi-channel audio.

The poster above has an older receiver and won't utilize DTS-HD, just DTS.

I've also used this on the BenQ and Samsung plasma, both of which are two channel. Always outputs DTS not 2- channel PCM
Thanks for the confirmation/clarification !

Did you use this with the Samsung Plasma and Benq W1070 at the same time ? How did you split the signal since this is a 4x1 switch ? I still have hopes of getting my JVC back as a second working projector, so I'd like to split the HDMI video output signal mirrored to both projectors while I separate the 7.1 audio to the AVR.

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I would recommend the Optoma HD25-LV over this model in my opinion.
That just means you are recommending based overall brightness and sacrificing good color accuracy. That's fine if your main use is sports, TV and gaming, but the 25-LV will not show as well for movies as the W1070. The W1070 handles a well-lit room just fine and dark rooms much better than the 25-LV by all reviews. The W1070 is usually a bit less expensive in the US than the 25-LV so I see no advantage in price either.

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