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post #11941 of 11952 Old 02-15-2017, 07:03 PM
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That was a typo. I just fixed it. Should read: "There is no world which currently exists where I wouldn't just go here and drop the $245."
Ah, thanks for clarifying. That $245 is a scary number, and seems disproportionate to the total cost of the projector. With an older W1070 whose fan bearings rattle in a pretty pronounced way, that might almost be sufficient impetus for an upgrade. Fingers crossed the current bulb hangs in there for a while yet!

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Yeah, with that price for the bulb you could almost justify just replacing the entire projector each time instead of the bulb, lol! You can pick up a 1070 for around 500.00 now. If there's any drop in lumens with my cheap bulb, I certainly can't see it. If it's dimmer, it's not enough to worry me.

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The high price of projector replacement lamps is one of the reasons why some are attracted to Epson and their lower cost lamps for many models. It's also what drives some to LED models even though LED has so far not been able to match UHP lamp brightness.
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So with a 245.00 bulb, and if we use 4000 hours of use as an example the cost per hour comes to roughly 16 hours of use per dollar. I actually had less than that on my original bulb around 3600 and I used eco, I know some have posted longer times, just didn't happen for me.

So right now I'm at approx 1550 hours and I paid 43.00 about 8 months ago (that same bulb is 54.00 now) so I'm at roughly 36 hours of use per dollar so far. I would need at least 700 hours based on 4k hours use to break even. I bought a replacement bulb when I ordered my projector back in 2015 and this was before I really did any research on genuine vs generic and I paid around 165.00 for it and I wished I had just waited, but too late now. I used it for about a month and then pulled it for the Maxi cheap replacement to see if it would work. I wrote the hours on it and stuck it back in the box. I don't know if that bulb was genuine or not, I think it had the Osram logo or whatever it was, I forget. But I never noticed any difference in quality or brightness, granted I have this in basement with walls painted black and usually don't have much ambient lighting but I didn't before either. Only difference is I paid 122.00 more for the first bulb and it may actually be a knock-off too.

Yes, it's a low-cost projector, I could see paying more for the bulbs if it were a $10k or a $5k PJ, but it's not. It wouldn't surprise me if the 245.00 bulb you're ordering is indeed a knock off too, they're all made in China.

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You can get a counterfeit lamp at any price, though most counterfeits are sold at unrealistically low prices. Most are made in China and counterfeit products are rampant in China which has poor consumer protection laws. There are counterfeit Rolex watches and Coach purses that have Rolex and Coach logos on them. Just because a lamp has Osram stamped on it doesn't mean it's the real thing.

The best way to be assured of getting the real thing is to order it directly from the projector manufacturer or from a trusted vendor with a strong reputation for only dealing in genuine OEM replacements. The reason that there are so many different companies selling a specialized product like projector replacement lamps is because they can make a quick buck selling to uneducated consumers.
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Greetings, have enjoyed my BenQ W 1070 since around day one, my question is this I have a oldie DVD PLAYER the Toshiba SE-R0237 - HDDVD player in which Sony squash, so as a experiment and curious ,mostly curious attached it to my BenQ with a new HDMI cable the Toshiba player started playing but no movie at all was shown had the right HDMI connection, so was wondering if anyone else has tried this besides me.
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You can get a counterfeit lamp at any price, though most counterfeits are sold at unrealistically low prices. Most are made in China and counterfeit products are rampant in China which has poor consumer protection laws. There are counterfeit Rolex watches and Coach purses that have Rolex and Coach logos on them. Just because a lamp has Osram stamped on it doesn't mean it's the real thing.

The best way to be assured of getting the real thing is to order it directly from the projector manufacturer or from a trusted vendor with a strong reputation for only dealing in genuine OEM replacements. The reason that there are so many different companies selling a specialized product like projector replacement lamps is because they can make a quick buck selling to uneducated consumers.
I thought Benq no longer sold the bulbs on their website. Finding a trusted vender these days would be near impossible, many legitimate websites sell the knock-offs too giving the customer the choice. I buy the cheaper bulbs simply because they're cheaper. So far I haven't noticed any difference in quality which says something about the exuberant markup prices for these bulbs that manufacturers want their customers to buy. It's very much like ink for printers, they don't make much on the sale of printers but they do on the ink.

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BenQ is still selling genuine OEM replacement lamps for the W1070:

benqdirect.com/replacement-lamp-for-w1070-w1080st.html

If you think you can get the same quality much cheaper, go for it. The cheaper they are the bigger the gamble. Some have had good luck and some have had disasters. Millions of people gamble in various lottos and casinos every day. It's only money.
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Greetings, have enjoyed my BenQ W 1070 since around day one, my question is this I have a oldie DVD PLAYER the Toshiba SE-R0237 - HDDVD player in which Sony squash, so as a experiment and curious ,mostly curious attached it to my BenQ with a new HDMI cable the Toshiba player started playing but no movie at all was shown had the right HDMI connection, so was wondering if anyone else has tried this besides me.
For some of the old dvd players, you had to go into the setup and turn on the hdmi port.
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I think if the projector was a $3k projector or more I wouldn't take a chance on a knockoff. Not worth the risk when you have that much invested in the projector which a non-genuine bulb would void your warranty at least for as long as that warranty was good. A cheap projector like the 1070, it doesn't bother me. It can be replaced for $500 anyway. Since they have a 30 day return and 180 day warranty on the bulb that would get you past a defunct bulb, most likely they would go bad in the first 250 hours of use as some have reported. I was thinking about picking up another 1070 just for backup and keep it in the box.

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My experience with the 1070 in a few lines:

Great projector, nice colours, bright and very good video quality, no tearing or other issues.

Few things to note, I do sometimes get the rainbow effect, only slightly noticeable, not a big issue at all.

The projector is a tad bright, i've not adjusted the settings at all but the original colour config is fine and I dont know where to start with adjusting it. We generally use it on a white wall, and the blacks aren't very deep at all.

However we got a 150" grey projector screen and the colours look brilliant, so much better than on a white wall, the blacks are now deep and overall picture quality is so much better.
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For some of the old dvd players, you had to go into the setup and turn on the hdmi port.

Thanks fort the heads up, will give it a try.

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