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post #91 of 9676 Old 11-01-2012, 04:03 PM
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also following this projector; it's between the AR100U & this one right now for me
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So this pj will do 1080p/120hz?
I think it does 1080p/60hz frame packing?
I dno, hopefully somebody will be able to tell me more.
1080p/60hz frame packing has more input lag than 1080p/120hz 3d, being a gamer the pass through of 120hz 3d with no need for 3d proccessing has the lowest input lag for 3d gaming.
Looks like it will do 1080p 60hz in 3d according to what i read in the manual, that sounds fun smile.gif, but does it do 1080p 120hz?
Highest real hz/res seems tobe 1280x800 119.909hz
Would be nice to use a hacked edid for 3dvision to get 1080p/120hz with a big screen.
From the manual:
1280 x 1024 @75 and 85Hz
This is the highest 2D frame rate. It may be great for HTPC games but its not even close to the HDTV 16:9 aspect ratio.
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From the manual:
1280 x 1024 @75 and 85Hz
This is the highest 2D frame rate. It may be great for HTPC games but its not even close to the HDTV 16:9 aspect ratio.

Thanks Hififun, i was getting my hopes up there, its what i've been after for sooo long.
I relly do like the look of this pj, can't wait to see some ukl prices, fingers crossed there here for xmas.

I do'nt see anywhere in the manual that it supports 1080p/60hz framepacking 3d instead of 1080p24hz ?

I take it with teh new chip it does 1080p/60hz framepacking 3d, or am i lost?

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I have studied refresh rates in passing over the past few years.
The fastest displays are these. Both are ~$500

ASUS VG Series VG278HE
BenQ XL2420TX Professional Gaming Monitor
Notice there is no motion interpolation as that nice feature adds considerably to the lags being discussed (4ms!):
http://www.amazon.com/review/R1UPL6SRMO3WVR/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00906HM6K&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=#wasThisHelpful
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I have a question; since this is a new product, and I am sure it will undergo firmware changes.
Does BenQ have a history of letting users's upgrade their firmware or do they require the unit to be sent in to them for flashing?

Anyone have a feel for this?

Thanks
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I do'nt see anywhere in the manual that it supports 1080p/60hz framepacking 3d instead of 1080p24hz ?
I take it with teh new chip it does 1080p/60hz framepacking 3d, or am i lost?

As has already been said, It doesn't support 1080p/60hz 3d.
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As has already been said, It doesn't support 1080p/60hz 3d.

Thanks, i missed that part.

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kraine, can you please test input lag on W1070?
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I have a question; since this is a new product, and I am sure it will undergo firmware changes.
Does BenQ have a history of letting users's upgrade their firmware or do they require the unit to be sent in to them for flashing?
Anyone have a feel for this?
Thanks
Rew

The BenQ W7000 had issues in early production and required a firmware fix. From what I have read all units had to be send to a service center for the update to be done.
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I have a question; since this is a new product, and I am sure it will undergo firmware changes.
Does BenQ have a history of letting users's upgrade their firmware or do they require the unit to be sent in to them for flashing?
Anyone have a feel for this?
Thanks
Rew

You'll have to send it in if it requires a firmware update. At least that was the case for the BenQ 7000 when they released the new firmware. I wonder what the competitors will be coming out with and how they will compare ($$$ and performance). The advantage to buying early is that you have more fun earlier. The disadvantage is that you haven't been able to test all the waters.....

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The BenQ W7000 had issues in early production and required a firmware fix. From what I have read all units had to be send to a service center for the update to be done.

True dat.....

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FWIW, I talked to a Benq USA sales rep today and he or she told me that the W1070 will be released at the end of 2012 or early 2013.
Since we have to wait a bit, its only logical to include the new Acer DC3 projectors.
Kraine, once again appears to be the all knowing orb!


Note: Acer and BenQ used to be part of the same company. BenQ certainly has the better customer service.
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Since we have to wait a bit, its only logical to include the new Acer DC3 projectors.
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Note: Acer and BenQ used to be part of the same company. BenQ certainly has the better customer service.

I haven't dealt with BenQ customer service, so I'm not an authority on that. Once you get past level 1 support at Acer (at which I've become quite proficient), I think their customer support is quite good. In fact just about as good as I've seen (being something of a rookie in this business). Acer customer support has gone way, way out of their way for me; including replacing my projector with a brand new one and restarting my warranty and I didn't even ask them to do this.

As far as the new DC3 chip PJs coming out, I get that this is a significant upgrade from last year's model if implemented correctly. I would say so was 720 to 1080p 3D and so will be the next advance (most likely anyway). If someone wants to get a new projector every year, they can do that and get the full benefit of the new technology as it's released. In other words, we're on the technology merry-go-round as I've said many times before. The new models get announced, we either bite or wait until we get a better idea of which PJ is best for our needs and what kinds of problems each projector has. Then we either bite or decide to wait for the price to come down a bit or gather yet more information over the added time. Then we either bite or we say to ourselves "at this point, maybe I should wait and see next year's model". Then next year's model comes out and we go through the same process.

For myself, I'm glad that people who waited through this year will get an improved PJ. I'm also glad I've been having so much fun watching my projector and will continue to do so while others are waiting for next year's model to be released. If I were to purchase another PJ (I won't be doing that next year because I don't want to spend the money), I'd probably purchase it around April or May because by then everything has been pretty much vetted (yes, an election is coming up smile.gif ) and that puts me in my comfort zone when it comes to spending money. So, you can wait forever or make a decision as to when to buy. If I didn't have (and hadn't had) a PJ, I'd certainly wait for next year's model. I made a decision I'm quite comfortable with and bought the Acer. After an admittedly rocky start, everything is looking good and I use it literally every day.

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Since we have to wait a bit, its only logical to include the new Acer DC3 projectors.
Kraine, once again appears to be the all knowing orb!
Note: Acer and BenQ used to be part of the same company. BenQ certainly has the better customer service.

Optoma may be in this running also.....you never know......unless you wait and find out. wink.gif

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Looks like W1070 will be available december 3rd at ncix in Canada.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=77677&vpn=W1070&manufacture=BenQ
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Hey! Did anyone read W1070 user's manual? They have 2 models in there: W1070 and W1080ST (short throw). But http://www.benq.com/microsite/projector/throwratiocalculator/ do not have W1080ST. What is throw ratio of W1070?

kraine, can u check if W1070 have the same ratio in real life as at throw-calculator's page?

The main question is - if we order W1070, wouldn't it be it's a non-short throw model (because they have special W1080ST edition for short throw)?
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w1070 can do 100" in 2.5 meter.
w1080st can do 100" in 1.5 meter. That's amazing. I hope the quality is good too.
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Oh yes, thanks. It's fully described in user manual. That's all about me - first ask then read rolleyes.gif
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And native contrast is better than the more pricey W7000 too (which uses DC2 chip). I wonder what were they thinking... ;D

BenQ UK website shows a New W7000+. Wonder if this is the latest improved version of the W7000. Perhaps they have also changed the DC2 to DC3 in the new W7000+ as well?

http://benq.co.uk/product/projector/35/262
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The comparison of the specifications between the W7000 and W7000+ shows not even one difference.
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Is that for sale link above correct ? Do you think the 1070 or 1080st may be up for sale before the end of this year ?...
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BenQ Taiwan W1070 will be available in UK market in Dec.

From the facebook page in relation to my question for uk .

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Here's a chinese quick review:
http://www.pjtime.com/2012/11/19266923.shtml
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Kraine, you say the 3D picture needs some work, but have you seen other entry-level 3D DLP projectors (like the Acers or Optoma GT series) to offer a comparison? I dipped my toe in the 3D waters with an Optoma GT700, and I'm pretty impressed for $600. But, I'm looking to upgrade to full hd 3D and better contrast soon.... was hoping something like the W1070 would be it.
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I just bought an optoma gt750 and I am hooked on the smooth motion from dlp as its my first one. I owned lcd's in the past and they dont deliver, has there been a us release date and gaming lag stats posted?
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Read a taiwanese review... confirmed to be 6-speed 6-segment color wheel.
Started selling at 36,900 Taiwan dollar.

EDIT: It's chinese review at http://www.pconline.com.cn/projector/review/1211/3060242.html
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Read a taiwanese review... confirmed to be 6-speed 6-segment color wheel.
Started selling at 36,900 Taiwan dollar.
Can you give us a link to the review?

I see, sorry
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Can you give us a link to the review?
This chinese review:
http://www.pconline.com.cn/projector/review/1211/3060242.html
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Wow, it keeps getting better and better. This projector sounds amazing price vs performance (if it really comes out under 1k)

benQ for movies and that led LG for $449 for everyday tv , a match made in bargin heaven.

I still don't believe the color wheel is 6x, when al others have been 3x. it would be nice but not holding breath.
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Hi guy's.
I'm from England and can confirm this baby is available here now at £682 shipped ($1084) http://www.projectorpoint.co.uk/projectors/BenQ_W1070.html

I found a better review & test of the w1070 here....http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.audiovideohd.fr/tests/344-Benq-W1070-0.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbenq%2Bw1070%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dopera%26hs%3Ds9G%26channel%3Dsuggest%26prmd%3Dimvns&sa=X&ei=WWedUL3ZEIHS0QWY24CYCA&ved=0CEcQ7gEwBQ

This review confirms it is a 6x colour wheel.

I think this will be an astounding 3d projector at this budget price, it will be interesting to see what Optoma & Acer have to offer in the competition.

Don't forget the DLP-Link glasses from Ebay which are much cheaper.
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