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Tried it and somehow ended up with the screen on the floor?????? lol, the Projector central site stated 9' 6" and you are stating mid zoom 9'7" , ok how much will that distort the movies??????? Thanks by the way.



There's no difference between 9'6 and 9'7.

Rule of thumb is you use mid zoom to place your projector. So go with that.
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Alright so I just got my sainsonic 3d glasses....wuts the easiest way to test these bad boys out with a htpc through nvidia? get the drivers?
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This thread is due some screenshots. These are taken with my Sony point and shoot camera so image is not the best.
















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What screen did you get?

I've heard pretty good reviews on the Elite as a budget screen. Of course, if you got money Carada would be awesome. Hotspotting on a grey screen? That's new to me unless it has very high positive gain.

It's a no name screen from ebay, you can see it in a thread I started in the screen forum. It's very well built for the price, but the material is useless.
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I believe I need a new graphics card....I'm using a dvi to hdmi on my graphics card so I guess it's not hdmi 1.4 compatible....wuts a good cheap graphics card....then I just need the 3dtv play driver...anything else?
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I've had good luck with an Nvidia GeForce GT610 I got from Amazon for about $40. It supports 3D + hi def bitstream audio.
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I really enjoyed Art's review...really made my decision even harder. I just want to get my purchase right this time after not being completely happy with my current PJ (not the projector's fault) the pro8200. Well, here's a interesting video with the benq1070 and the Darbee.1.gif
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Hi All,

Hoping I can get a helping hand.

I'll be getting a W1070 eventually and it will be my first projector. The room I am installing it in (I'll upload pictures later) has about 4m from wall to wall and is quite square.

It will be ceiling mounted.

I'm hoping to get as big a screen as possible. 150 inch if possible, if not then I guess I step down to the next standard size which seems to be 120 inch. Is this correct?

I am wondering where and how far it should be mounted from the projected wall. Is the objective to mount it as far as possible away from the projected wall?

Cable raceways appealed to me, is this the consensus for cable management?

Thanks for any help.
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Closer to the screen results in a brighter image, and smaller screen in general, so keep in mind the limitations of the pj and the light produced vs the desired screen size, or room limitations to make your decision. Try out this calc, it's easy to use and will give you a good idea on brightness vs placement and screen gain choices. http://www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com/ From a glancing look, if you can mount the pj at it's closest,12' 7" using 150" 1.0 gain screen, the brightness looks good, but you'll need a ceiling height of around 9' 6"?
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Hello...i just registered on AVS yesterday but i have been reading a lot of threads and i am happy to be a new member here as a lot of you are very knowledgeable...i ordered the W1070 last week and i should be getting it later this week...my previous PJ was the Optoma GT-750E wich was a 720P....i was desapointed with the Optoma mostly for the poor blacks and also i found it very dark for 3D...well with what i read yet about the W1070 i am sure i will be happy and also that i will see a noticeable difference in picture quality and sharpness....cant wait to have it!...smile.gif...any comments from W1070 owners would be appreciated.
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Couldn't agree more Smokarz! This time from my SLR. I'm still not good at taking screenshots:)








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Hi All,

Hoping I can get a helping hand.

I'll be getting a W1070 eventually and it will be my first projector. The room I am installing it in (I'll upload pictures later) has about 4m from wall to wall and is quite square.

It will be ceiling mounted.

I'm hoping to get as big a screen as possible. 150 inch if possible, if not then I guess I step down to the next standard size which seems to be 120 inch. Is this correct?

I am wondering where and how far it should be mounted from the projected wall. Is the objective to mount it as far as possible away from the projected wall?

Cable raceways appealed to me, is this the consensus for cable management?

Thanks for any help.
Uberisuber....I have a 150" inch and I'm sitting about 15 feet back and the image looks great! I haven't heard much about the cable management, but cables are in the ceiling.
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Nice shots JoeBoy73.

What screen you got there? Is it 2.35?
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Nice shots JoeBoy73.

What screen you got there? Is it 2.35?
Nah...lol. I wish though...I can real close to getting one. But its 16:9.
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Unsure if this post is quoting jnabq

Thanks for the post, some useful information there.

I'm at work at the moment so am unable to do measurements, but I don't think I have 9' 6", maybe 8' 5".

It's encouraging to see people taking it to a very technical level, but that website wasn't really easy to use, for me at least until I learn a little more.

I guess my next steps are to measure my room and grab a screen. For the screen I was going to do it on the cheap and just grab the cheapest 16:9 one of eBay. Is something like this adequate? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/120-HD-16-9-Home-Cinema-Electric-Projection-Projector-Screen-Matt-White-MW-13-/370711051328?pt=AU_ProjectorScreens&hash=item565019bc40&_uhb=1

I see a number of "4:3 or 16:9" projector screens on eBay, are they basically saying you would have to put black bars on the 16:9 image to get it to fit on what is actually a 4:3 screen?

Appreciate your assistance.
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I've had the W1070 for about a month now and it has been great. However, I've run into an issue with the fan noise. It is making a persistent rattling noise that is noticeable on quiet scenes. I've already replaced one projector thinking it was a faulty fan but the new one has the same issue. First PJ was 1.03. This one is 1.04. Same issue on both. I've uploaded a video of the issue on YouTube. Anyone else having this issue? Should I replace a second time? Third time might be a charm and I love the performance of this PJ so much it would be worth it to get this fan taken care of. Here is the link.

http://youtu.be/ZQSK0O-OFD8
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Wondering why the value is so different between the W1070 and the Epson 3020 a $500-600 higher on the Epson yet everyone seems or state that the W1070 is better even with the current noise issue in the fan, I am not trying to offend any one just trying to figure out the disparity.
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Wondering why the value is so different between the W1070 and the Epson 3020 a $500-600 higher on the Epson yet everyone seems or state that the W1070 is better even with the current noise issue in the fan, I am not trying to offend any one just trying to figure out the disparity.

I think the image performance of the projector is what makes this one so great. The fan issues (cool down and rattle) are hopefully few and far between although I am still hopeful someone can shed light on the rattle issue above I'm having. The only other issue is the light leakage from the fan exhaust grille.
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No offense for anyone. I am a strong believer in "you get what you pay for". I believe Epsons are better quality and prbly will last atleast 5yrs without any probs, or may be even 7-10yrs. I believe Benq W1070 is made with cheap quality for undercutting Epson....prbly will create problems from 2+yrs or so. Japanese vs. Chinese designs. That's just my thought. No proof or whatsoever. Believe me, W1070 is still tempting me. I am torn between Epson 3020 and W1070/Optoma HD25. It is taking lot of nerve to stay away from BenQ/Optoma. Upcoming Optoma HD25 is somewhere in between I guess, but there are still some reviews on prior Optoma models saying there were basic problems - power on, HDMI doesn't work etc in a few months. How can a device fail so basic test in a few months. I try to stay from those brands even if I see one such review.

So, if Reliability is important, go with Epson.
If price or compactness is important, go with BenQ/Optoma. I love the compactness part of these. Epson is a behemoth compared to these.
I am not videophile...so I don't care much about difference in image quality. Either of them will be fine for casual watching. So, I for myself, would like to install it and forget for atleast 7yrs until 4K becomes mainstream.
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I doubt we'll have to wait even a couple years to get decently priced 4k, because projectors are the best place to get economies of scale since there is such a bigger impact of resolution (not to mention contrast + brightness boosts) than flat panels.

I was considering the Epson but am glad I got this one...no lag at all, and I love motion. It's ironic that the LCD-based tech have better blacks than DLP, since DLP motion and input lag and 3D characteristics are more akin to plasmas' benefits there. Even if OLEDs were perfectly reasonably priced, I don't think I can go back down in size at this point. The blacks are decent enough on this bad boy for now...sure they can be better, but it's pretty darn good, especially for the price. I'll just buy a new projector in a couple years' time if I see something awesome. I bet it'll be BenQ again.
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Just getting that old movie projector clicking noise like the others here and it is intolerable. I may want a refund on this as I dont want to pay money to ship back a defective projector on my dime. I bought from VA, does anyone know their policy on returns?
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Just getting that old movie projector clicking noise like the others here and it is intolerable. I may want a refund on this as I dont want to pay money to ship back a defective projector on my dime. I bought from VA, does anyone know their policy on returns?

If it is brand new VA should take care of it. If not Benq will pay shipping in both directions. Call them for a RMA.
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No offense for anyone. I am a strong believer in "you get what you pay for". I believe Epsons are better quality and prbly will last atleast 5yrs without any probs, or may be even 7-10yrs. I believe Benq W1070 is made with cheap quality for undercutting Epson....prbly will create problems from 2+yrs or so. Japanese vs. Chinese designs. That's just my thought. No proof or whatsoever. Believe me, W1070 is still tempting me. I am torn between Epson 3020 and W1070/Optoma HD25. It is taking lot of nerve to stay away from BenQ/Optoma. Upcoming Optoma HD25 is somewhere in between I guess, but there are still some reviews on prior Optoma models saying there were basic problems - power on, HDMI doesn't work etc in a few months. How can a device fail so basic test in a few months. I try to stay from those brands even if I see one such review.

So, if Reliability is important, go with Epson.
If price or compactness is important, go with BenQ/Optoma. I love the compactness part of these. Epson is a behemoth compared to these.
I am not videophile...so I don't care much about difference in image quality. Either of them will be fine for casual watching. So, I for myself, would like to install it and forget for atleast 7yrs until 4K becomes mainstream.

The Epsons also have issues and they are also made in China if that makes any difference. In fact most electronic products are made there including most Apple and HP products. The Epsons have had issues with panel alignment in the past. and other brands have had similar issues. I think the key is not where the units are made but to make sure that you get a good one from the start.
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I've had the W1070 for about a month now and it has been great. However, I've run into an issue with the fan noise. It is making a persistent rattling noise that is noticeable on quiet scenes. I've already replaced one projector thinking it was a faulty fan but the new one has the same issue. First PJ was 1.03. This one is 1.04. Same issue on both. I've uploaded a video of the issue on YouTube. Anyone else having this issue? Should I replace a second time? Third time might be a charm and I love the performance of this PJ so much it would be worth it to get this fan taken care of. Here is the link.

http://youtu.be/ZQSK0O-OFD8

I watched the video and I would suggest that you call Benq and let them know about the issue and get it fixed or ask for a replacement. I am wondering if there is a bad batch of units with hardware version 103 firmware 104 out there with this clicking noise issue or are others having the problem with other hardware and firmware versions?
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Wondering why the value is so different between the W1070 and the Epson 3020 a $500-600 higher on the Epson yet everyone seems or state that the W1070 is better even with the current noise issue in the fan, I am not trying to offend any one just trying to figure out the disparity.
Just because its more than the Benq doesn't mean its better. If someone believe that if it cost more, the product is better, then all products will be way over priced
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I don't have a problem with the fan on my BenQ it works normal.....and for the better quality of Epson I don't agree that its better than BenQ. I'm a forum member of a dutch HT forum and a lot of them have a Epson projector but there's a lot of problem with there projectors......like color shifting, dust in the lens, many times the lens unit must be replaced due to a defect......Before I had the BenQ I had a Infocus for 6 years and never had a problem with it......
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Just because its more than the Benq doesn't mean its better. If someone believe that if it cost more, the product is better, then all products will be way over priced


Look at the price of a Ford Taurus vs a Lincoln. ah.but I know what t you mean.

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Finally! A voice of reason. Thank you.
Even a tv drama like Parenthood has enough low contrast night scenes that watching on a projector with mediocre black level is often a major compromise.

For the JVC vs. Benq, it does depend what the viewer watches, but for me even some of my TV shows need the JVC:

Game of Thrones, Fringe (not as much), Walking Dead, some others...
GOT looks amazing on the JVC, it was made for the JVC smile.gif

Though I admit, I'd rather watch the news or a documentary on the Benq.

I laugh at the earlier comments about more expensive projectors being more reliable, in some unique cases this is true, but not really overall. DLP is the most reliable tech over LCD as long as the color wheel does not break. The newer color wheels are more reliable because they use HD motor designs, and hard drive motors are way more reliable than in the old days. It's like a hard-drive without a platter and a color wheel instead of the platter spinning in front. If you are after reliability, Epson is not where I'd put my money. Epson is at best average.

IME, the cheaper projectors tend to last longer, as fewer things that can go wrong often, of course this does not apply to all brands (some cheap projectors are just made poorly), but same can be said for some expensive units as well. I also don't really care where a projector is MFR or assembled, for all I care it can be MFR'd in Zimbabwe, QC'd in Ethiopia, and shipped to Tasmania. I'm still ok with it as long as it works and keeps working smile.gif


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As Codeguy states "Game of Thrones" looks great on the JVC. I have compared season 1 on both the JVC RS45 and the Benq w1070 and the JVC wins hands down. I also agree that some shows may be fine on the Benq. I went the two projector route for this reason. I also hope that Codeguy gets a chance to test a W1070 soon.
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are you guys expecting a major difference between the 1070 and W7000?

Has the 3D lumen output been measured on the 1070?

I want a pair of the new 3rd gen BQ glasses but it doesn't look they will be available for few more weeks.
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