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Is there a 2000+ calibrated lumens 1080p 3D DLP projector for less than $3000? Preferably with short throw.
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Thanks, I wasn't aware of it. This one is different from SP8600, right? Were there any tests of it?

Edit: No, it seems SP8600HD3D is a different projector. But the resemblance in names might suggest that it's still SP8600 with added functionality. Can anyone confirm?
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There aren't that many alternatives. BenQ W7000 is 1500 calibrated. The upcoming W1070 is 1600 cailbrated (measured by kraine) and is more preferable. Real calibrated lumens of SP8600HD3D and SP8601 are unknown. Maybe there are bright 1080p DLP projectors which don't have 3D support specified but are able to output 120 Hz frame sequential 3D, like so many new 720p projectors? http://www.dlp.com/projector/find-dlp-projector/default.aspx?p=0-0-10-4-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
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this one is 720p in 3d,1080p available only in 2d.
no lens shift,no iris.
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this one is 720p in 3d,1080p available only in 2d.
no lens shift,no iris.
Which one?
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Is there a 2000+ calibrated lumens 1080p 3D DLP projector for less than $3000? Preferably with short throw.
May I bump exactly this question with the viewpoint from January 2015?

Currently I'm using a Benq W7000 with an High Power 165" screen. With an absolutely new lamp it is just bright enough in 3D, but doesn't keep so long, and shuffling lamps is a nuisance for me and my credit card.

I'm aware of the fact, that 3D is now longer an overly interesting business for the industry, so new and improved developments are probably rare, if any at all. But does anybody know something, maybe from the current CES?

BTW: the PJ should be able to project at about the center axis of the screen, so probably a lens shift is unavoidable.

Any help highly appreciated.

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May I bump exactly this question with the viewpoint from January 2015?
And I may be able to answer. No. "Calibrated" meaning we would want to be at least close to rec.709 for color. There are some bright DLP units with yellow, cyan, white or clear segments in their color wheels which can produce those lumen number while on full lamp (new lamp)... But no (subjectively) decent color with those units. Unless you go with Sim2 3D projectors (>> $10000+) there are no options as a single PJ solution as of today, I believe.
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And I may be able to answer. No. "Calibrated" meaning we would want to be at least close to rec.709 for color.
My bad... I was not careful enough in asking my question.

In fact I don't need 2'000 calibrated lumens, but something visibly brighter (in 3D) than my current W7000.

Can this reestablish hope for me?

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Brightest FullHD 3D DLP projector under $3,000 USD?

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And I may be able to answer. No. "Calibrated" meaning we would want to be at least close to rec.709 for color. There are some bright DLP units with yellow, cyan, white or clear segments in their color wheels which can produce those lumen number while on full lamp (new lamp)... But no (subjectively) decent color with those units. Unless you go with Sim2 3D projectors (>> $10000+) there are no options as a single PJ solution as of today, I believe.

Yeah, right now there's still nothing that gets close to this brightness whilst remaining particularly color-accurate.

I think for driving larger screens, the best way forward might be an already-color-bright projector (like the BenQ W7000 discussed here, or the W1070/HT1075/Optoma HD50) mated to a screen with a bit of gain. Kind of like what AV_Integrated uses to drive his 161" screen (in Eco mode!)
W1070 With The Lights On - 161" Screen

BenQ W1070 Projector; Xtreamer Ultra 2 (running XBMC on OpenELEC) via Sony STR-DH540 AVR with Boston Acoustics SoundWare XS SE 5.1 Audio. MediaBrowser3 for Mobile Streaming.

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You should also make sure the auto-iris of your current model is off (dynamic blacks are bad for bright 3D) and see if a small gamma boost helps things.
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My bad... I was not careful enough in asking my question.

In fact I don't need 2'000 calibrated lumens, but something visibly brighter (in 3D) than my current W7000.

Can this reestablish hope for me?
Optoma HD25-LV is currently revered as brightest 3D projector under $3000. Given it's far from color-accurate. But kreeturez is right, maybe you can accommodate a screen just for 3D? There are a lot of amazing options... Like Lusoscreen concave screen with 11 gain. Brightness in 3D won't be an issue. But viewing conditions regarding relative position of viewer/projector are strict.
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Optoma HD25-LV is currently revered as brightest 3D projector under $3000.
Do you have an idea about how much brighter it may be than the W7000?
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maybe you can accommodate a screen just for 3D? There are a lot of amazing options... Like Lusoscreen concave screen with 11 gain. Brightness in 3D won't be an issue. But viewing conditions regarding relative position of viewer/projector are strict.
Exchanging the screen is such a (subjective) horror-thought for me, that I'm afraid I have to rule that out...

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Do you have an idea about how much brighter it may be than the W7000?
I wasn't particularly interested in this unit but I recall seeing 2200+ lumen in brightest mode. There are a lot of reviews floating around, with numbers. Here you may find a lot of user thoughts: OPTOMA HD25 HD25LV new budget 2D 3D DLP FULL projector

But personally I wouldn't bother at this point. We are at the verge (meaning this year) of new projectors with HDMI 2.0. See where I'm going? 1080p60 3D. Besides, Optoma has only a few advantages over W7000, there are disadvantages as well. It will be a lateral move at best.
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But personally I wouldn't bother at this point. We are at the verge (meaning this year) of new projectors with HDMI 2.0. See where I'm going? 1080p60 3D.
Any idea when they may be popping out?

"This year" could mean announcement in 2 weeks or in 11 months...

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Besides, Optoma has only a few advantages over W7000, there are disadvantages as well. It will be a lateral move at best.
After briefly looking at it I came to the same conclusion. Mainly a presentation PJ, and probably it also cannot project at the screen axis.

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Any idea when they may be popping out?

"This year" could mean announcement in 2 weeks or in 11 months...
I think by Fall.
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