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I'm hoping the price drops! I have been looking at this PJ for a while now. I'm not done with my build yet so actually purchasing one won't be until near the end of the year or early next year sometime. So the price will hopefully keep going down!
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For anyone interested in a great deal on an Epson 5020, see my post in the classifieds.

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For anyone interested in a great deal on an Epson 5020, see my post in the classifieds.

How much are the 5030's going to be? I am on the fence about waiting for the 5030...

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About the same price as the 5020, judging from Epson's previous years, $2600.


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For anyone interested in a great deal on an Epson 5020, see my post in the classifieds.

I've been scouring the classifieds twice a day for 2 months looking for one. Now I can't find your ad. Sold already?
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I've been scouring the classifieds twice a day for 2 months looking for one. Now I can't find your ad. Sold already?

Still got it. Only put it up about an hour ago.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1489501/epson-5020ub-with-only-25-hours#post_23709064

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Still got it. Only put it up about an hour ago.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1489501/epson-5020ub-with-only-25-hours#post_23709064

I know you are SELLING it because you THINK the 5030 is around the Corner.

But if you look at the 5020 THREAD START DATE - IT WAS - 1/2/13

Assuming Epson Announced it at LAST Year's CEDIA [Sept-2012] and BUYERS started
the THREAD 90 Days Later.

You may not see a 5030 until NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN - I know nothing about Epson's Release Date - I am only connecting the DOTS.
MANY AV Companies announce things at CEDIA with 90 LEAD TIMES.
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I know you are SELLING it because you THINK the 5030 is around the Corner.

But if you look at the 5020 THREAD START DATE - IT WAS - 1/2/13

Assuming Epson Announced it at LAST Year's CEDIA [Sept-2012] and BUYERS started
the THREAD 90 Days Later.

You may not see a 5030 until NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN - I know nothing about Epson's Release Date - I am only connecting the DOTS.
MANY AV Companies announce things at CEDIA with 90 LEAD TIMES.

Thanks for the info. I noticed that as well when I looked up the official owners thread and someone on the forums said it still might come out this fall. Either way, still returning it to Brandsmart next weekend unless someone buys it.

Well, I say I'm returning or selling it. The only way I will keep it is if there's a way to get some type of Frame Interpolation. Whether it be through blu-ray software on my PC, a blu-ray player or AV Reciever with a de-judder or FI built in. The WinDVD 11 has a Motion Streamliner option that I'm not sure works in 3D. I also read on a review for a Pioneer Elite Reciever that it has de-judder built in. Oh well, I'll figure something out.

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Thanks for the info. I noticed that as well when I looked up the official owners thread and someone on the forums said it still might come out this fall. Either way, still returning it to Brandsmart next weekend unless someone buys it.

Have Fun with the HOBBY.

I do not think the 5030 is that much better but it is YOUR HOBBY.
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Have Fun with the HOBBY.

I do not think the 5030 is that much better but it is YOUR HOBBY.

This hobby is getting tiring. Lol. I don't expect it to be much better at all. I just want the FI and Super Resolution in 3D. Everything else can stay the same for all I care. That would make it the ALMOST perfect PJ for me.

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Any users have any opinions or info on the Epson super white setting on or off? I just put the setting on and it looks like it made the pic darker but more detailed.... maybe too dark but I'll have to play around with it. Im currently using the settings from the hometheatermag review minus having the Contrast at -10 mine is set at 0.
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Spoke a little too soon looks like the Epson super white destroyed my brightness pattern, turned everything black.
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Spoke a little too soon looks like the Epson super white destroyed my brightness pattern, turned everything black.
Just adjust the brightness then. What patterns are you using?
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Just adjust the brightness then. What patterns are you using?

I've been using disney WOW, both basic and advanced brightness test get wiped out with THX mode at default. Should I explore turning the brightness up with Super white turned on is there a benefit of super white being on?
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I've been using disney WOW, both basic and advanced brightness test get wiped out with THX mode at default. Should I explore turning the brightness up with Super white turned on is there a benefit of super white being on?
Yeah, I would just test both and see what works best. I found that contrast dosn't clip as easy with super white on. I would also try a different disc to double check. The AVS HD 709 disc is free, it can be downloaded from these forums. It has really nice contrast and brightness test patterns. I'm not saying that WOW isn't good, it's just good to have more than one test disc.
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I have DVE on bluray also so ill give that a try too and I will turn up the brightness if need be and see how it looks.
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I have been thinking about getting this projector or newer when new ones come out when I'm done with my basement. That will hopefully be sometime by next summer. So I have a little time. Hopefully sooner then next summer but will see. Anyway what's been killing me is trying to decide on a screen! in particular do I go with a 2.35 or a 16:9. I know the screen forum is ----> way but I'm just wondering what some owners of this particular projector use and reccomend? If you could PM I'd greatly appreciate it!

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I have been thinking about getting this projector or newer when new ones come out when I'm done with my basement. That will hopefully be sometime by next summer. So I have a little time. Hopefully sooner then next summer but will see. Anyway what's been killing me is trying to decide on a screen! in particular do I go with a 2.35 or a 16:9. I know the screen forum is ----> way but I'm just wondering what some owners of this particular projector use and reccomend? If you could PM I'd greatly appreciate it!

Thanks in advance.

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I have been thinking about getting this projector or newer when new ones come out when I'm done with my basement. That will hopefully be sometime by next summer. So I have a little time. Hopefully sooner then next summer but will see. Anyway what's been killing me is trying to decide on a screen! in particular do I go with a 2.35 or a 16:9. I know the screen forum is ----> way but I'm just wondering what some owners of this particular projector use and reccomend? If you could PM I'd greatly appreciate it!

Thanks in advance.

16:9 using a seymour av screen and the premiere frame. It has a magnetic option to add masking panels if you want them for 2.35 movies. You can also get a 2.35 and then get masking panels to convert to 16:9. http://www.seymourav.com/masking.asp

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well im on my second unit the flare is gone and i have some convergence. to those that have fixed it does this look manageable?

from camera raw processed as shot to jpeg. pic may be a slightly pushing the convergence a little

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Thanks for that link! This is what I've been looking for. I've heard about masking but having some images to go as references helps a lot! I guess it's a matter now of determining what's more important to me. sports or movies. Unfortunately both are equally important. Watching the game in full screen would be really nice! But also watching a movie in full screen on a 2.35 screen would be equally nice!

I think I'm leaning however to go with the 16:9 and mask the top and bottom. While the majority of my movies are 2.35 I still do have some that are not. Maybe I'd be doing less masking if I stuck with the 16:9 screen. What does the 16:9 image turn into size wise when masking a 2.35 screen? This is probably the hardest decision I've EVER had to make! Naming my first born son was easy compared to this! *pulls out last patch of hair on head*
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I am still setting it up so I don't have any measurements for you. However I believe I read somewhere that on a 105" wide screen 16:9 you would lose around 7" inches off the top and bottom. So if you are width constrained for your room, a 105 wide 16:9 screen has a height of 59" where a similarly wide 2.35 has a height of 44.6. Subtract 14 from 59 and you get 45 or the same size as what you would have bought with the same width 2.35 screen. Now having said that, it appears people who get a 2.35 screen tend to get a wider screen than they would have just buying a 16:9 screen. There are some measurements that show you can go wider for a 2.35 screen than a similarly wide 16:9 before causing eye strain from a given viewing distance. In the 105 wide 16:9 screen you would have to jump up to an almost 140" wide 2.35 screen to have the same height. I like the look of a 2.35 screen and it does look a little more theater to me but I think 16:9 with masking panels gives the best of both worlds, especially if you are going to do any TV viewing. I think you are losing somewhere around 10" on each side (20 total) of a 2.35 scope screen if you display 16:9 on it.


Hopefully someone else can chime in and help me out if I am wrong.

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Thanks. I don't want to hijack this thread and get way off subject. I'll take this over to the screen forums! Thanks for your help and information!
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One thing that concerned me when I was debating wide or 16x9 screen was the fact that, without using an anamorphic lens to stretch the picture and a projector that can modify the image to allow for that stretch, that you're going to be enlarging the image to fit the 2.35 screen. I've not seen that done by anyone, so I don't know how that would look exactly. But remembering how a non-anamorphic DVD used to look when I would use "Zoom" mode to fill my 16x9 TV screen, and the loss of clarity and detail, I was worried about doing a similar thing to fill a 2.35 projection screen... and so I went with as large a 16x9 screen as I could fit.
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I just ordered this projector for use with a 110" screen. Never having a projector before I have a stupid question. I'm trying to determine the optimal distance the projector should be set from the screen. While I have see the throw calculators most show a possible range the PJ can be placed. For example in my case somewhere in the range of 11 to 22' supposedly. Does placement within that range affect the image quality at all?

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I just ordered this projector for use with a 110" screen. Never having a projector before I have a stupid question. I'm trying to determine the optimal distance the projector should be set from the screen. While I have see the throw calculators most show a possible range the PJ can be placed. For example in my case somewhere in the range of 11 to 22' supposedly. Does placement within that range affect the image quality at all?

The Longer Range Only Effect BRIGHTNESS

Closer is BETTER

I USE 15 feet with a 144" Screen
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Thanks. Are there any tips on what I should first do for setup. I'm assuming I should mount the screen after I get the projector in the relative position I'm looking for.

Would updating the firmware be some to do after some break in

Also i was trying to determine which mount to use for the ceiling. Looking through threads here it looked like users were satisfied with the Peerless PRGUNV which i ordered. In addition i ordered the ceiling plate as well. I will need to mount the projector through the ceiling tiles onto the joist. I was wondering if anyone one could recommend a pipe to use for this length? They make it sound like i should be able to get any 1.5" pipe from the hardware store.

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well im on my second unit the flare is gone and i have some convergence. to those that have fixed it does this look manageable?

from camera raw processed as shot to jpeg. pic may be a slightly pushing the convergence a little


Activate the lcd alignment and in the red and blue put 8 to the right ( 1 full pixel) (vertical if i remember!) in the four corners and it will be almost spot on!
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Thanks. Are there any tips on what I should first do for setup. I'm assuming I should mount the screen after I get the projector in the relative position I'm looking for.

Would updating the firmware be some to do after some break in

Also i was trying to determine which mount to use for the ceiling. Looking through threads here it looked like users were satisfied with the Peerless PRGUNV which i ordered. In addition i ordered the ceiling plate as well. I will need to mount the projector through the ceiling tiles onto the joist. I was wondering if anyone one could recommend a pipe to use for this length? They make it sound like i should be able to get any 1.5" pipe from the hardware store.

One Thing you can think of is a MORE EXPENSIVE MOUNT.

A Chief LCDA230C - it allows you to keep the Projector UPRIGHT.

It is the MOUNT I USE it allows for some Movement if the PJ is not
perfectly lined up with the screen - a SMALL amount of off axis
movement can screw up the quality of the picture.

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Any reason why you went with a non-inverted mount ...
I had my 5020ube mounted inverted for a few mouths but read on this forum I think it was the 5010
that if you mount upright you can achieve a better picture, this is how my projector is now
non-inverted ceiling mounted and swear I have a better picture now... just curios if that was your case
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