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post #1351 of 1375 Old 12-08-2014, 11:40 AM
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Quick question.

I recently changed my original lamp in my 5020 after 1600hrs. Replacing the lamp was no sweat. I've since put about 150hrs on the new lamp.

When I ran my calibration for Black levels and contrast (in THX mode), I found I had to crank the contrast down to -16!

After all was said and done, Brightness is set to +2 and Contrast to -16 and the picture looks great. The numbers shocked me, though.

I have a COMPLETELY dark room and an SI 115" ZeroEdge screen -2.4 gain. Oppo 103D-BD player into a Marantz AV7702 to the Epson. No processor modifications.

Anyone else have a similar experience?
Should I put a few more hours on the lamp?
Should I not worry and just enjoy the nice picture?

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Anyone have any recommendations on where to get replacement lamps? I see alot of places making cheaper replacements, on amazon its hard to tell which is oem and which is not

So far I went through 3 5020's. My original started flickering and after contacting their support they sent me a replacement, this was only after a few months. Then the replacement had a completely distorted signal and output after a few days. Ive been using the final replacement for a little over a year now and it was just fine up until today when I started to see the flickering again. The bulb has ~1500 hrs on it so before I contact their support again (that is even if they let me since I think Im past the original warranty on my first one) I wanted to try a new bulb

Has anyone seen flickering caused by a bulb going out? Should I try anything else?
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You might try turning off the auto Iris. I have sometimes seen what I call flickering depending on what I am watching. When I turn off the iris it stops. Only certain scenes seem to trigger this. After awhile I will turn the iris back on and it is fine until the next time. Good luck.
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After reading up it appears its a common issue with all home theater projectors basically. Its because when you run in ECO modes the arcs in the bulbs can wear unevenly. I noticed that I do not see the flicker when running in normal mode. From all the threads on the issue I could find is that generally running in the non-eco mode on your projector for ~20hrs will re-wear the arc paths back to normal and the flicker should hopefully go away. So Ill try that for now

Not sure why epson never suggested that the first time i had the problem though
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Do people still feel like this unit performs great in 3d? I watched some 3d when I first bought it and don't recall any issues.


However, I recently watched Godzilla, How to Train Your Dragon 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy all in 3d. In all 3 films I noticed a lot of crosstalk. Anyone else experiencing this with newer 3d movies?

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I think it just really depends on the movie. Last ones I watched were Lego and despicable me 2 and they looked perfect. However a while ago I noticed a bit of crosstalk in Jurassic park and avengers. It was never constant but noticeable at times. I'll have to try guardians and see if I see it here
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I think it just really depends on the movie. Last ones I watched were Lego and despicable me 2 and they looked perfect. However a while ago I noticed a bit of crosstalk in Jurassic park and avengers. It was never constant but noticeable at times. I'll have to try guardians and see if I see it here
Absolutely zero crosstalk in guardians of the galaxy on my 5010.
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forgot about the "3D Brightness" setting. Set that from Hi to Medium and it fixed crosstalk in HTTD2. I'll have to try it on GOTG and Godzilla. I think it should take care of it.

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Guys, I want to buy a burned out/broken BULB. IF anyone one has one, please PM me. Thanks.
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Guys, I want to buy a burned out/broken BULB. IF anyone one has one, please PM me. Thanks.

Going for the old send in the burnt bulb under warranty get one free
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Do people still feel like this unit performs great in 3d? I watched some 3d when I first bought it and don't recall any issues.


However, I recently watched Godzilla, How to Train Your Dragon 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy all in 3d. In all 3 films I noticed a lot of crosstalk. Anyone else experiencing this with newer 3d movies?
Bingo! I thought I was the only one seeing this on my 5010. Glad to see that I am not alone.
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Do people still feel like this unit performs great in 3d? I watched some 3d when I first bought it and don't recall any issues.


However, I recently watched Godzilla, How to Train Your Dragon 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy all in 3d. In all 3 films I noticed a lot of crosstalk. Anyone else experiencing this with newer 3d movies?
2 out of 3 of those films were filmed in 2D,

How to Train Your Dragon 2 says it uses Digital 3D
which is also not REAL 3D.

I suggest you refer to this website - HERE
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2 out of 3 of those films were filmed in 2D,

How to Train Your Dragon 2 says it uses Digital 3D
which is also not REAL 3D.

I suggest you refer to this website - HERE
I don't understand. What has crosstalk go to do with what type of 3D it is?
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I don't understand. What has crosstalk go to do with what type of 3D it is?
It doesn't. Don't listen to him, he's wrong about most of what he says.


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Hi Guys,

Which is the best non-Epson 3d glasses which i can use this projector with?
I have Samsung SSG-P51002 IR glasses. Is there a better one?

thanks!
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Valuview RF. 34.99 on amazon and they work great.

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agreed the Value View glasses are very comfortable and lighter than the Epson glasses. Didn't notice any drop off in visual quality either.
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So the 5020 has been out for a little over 2 yrs now. How are you guys doing on bulb life? I'm at 1350hrs. Primarily use it in eco mode. Who has changed their bulb and how many hours did you have on it?
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So the 5020 has been out for a little over 2 yrs now. How are you guys doing on bulb life? I'm at 1350hrs. Primarily use it in eco mode. Who has changed their bulb and how many hours did you have on it?
Haven't changed mine I guess that's because I am on my fifth projector on this one


have 470 hrs in normal mode

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So the 5020 has been out for a little over 2 yrs now. How are you guys doing on bulb life? I'm at 1350hrs. Primarily use it in eco mode. Who has changed their bulb and how many hours did you have on it?
I'm at about 1400 hrs normal mode. Bulb going strong.
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Anyone have any recommendations on where to get replacement lamps? I see alot of places making cheaper replacements, on amazon its hard to tell which is oem and which is not

So far I went through 3 5020's. My original started flickering and after contacting their support they sent me a replacement, this was only after a few months. Then the replacement had a completely distorted signal and output after a few days. Ive been using the final replacement for a little over a year now and it was just fine up until today when I started to see the flickering again. The bulb has ~1500 hrs on it so before I contact their support again (that is even if they let me since I think Im past the original warranty on my first one) I wanted to try a new bulb

Has anyone seen flickering caused by a bulb going out? Should I try anything else?
Had this flickering issue to my original bulb too after ~800hrs. Like people have mentioned, I had to run it in normal mode to eliminate the flicker then switch back to eco many times. I ended up just running it in normal It was real annoying. After ~2000hrs under normal mode it started flickering again usually under bright white high contrast scenes.

I figured the bulb was nearing the end so I bought a cheap replacement $45 bulb off ebay (under the seller electrifieddiscountersinc203) and it has been working great. No flickering on this bulb vs original with the same light output too using the X-Rite EODIS3 i1Display Pro to calibrate and test. I however have to say upon opening it, it was put together cheaply. The bulb was sitting angled about 20 degrees up in the housing when I got it so I had to take the housing apart to set the bulb straight before installing. But with that said it works great. I use my 5020ub around 10-18 hours everyday. It's almost on all the time. To add I think all these cheap replacement bulbs are probably the same too just from different sellers all over the net. Its got 2500hrs on it right now in full time normal mode and looks like it'll go to 3000hrs easy. I also bought another one from the same seller as a back up so if this one goes out I'll just throw that replacement in. Overall totally worth the $45 shipped I got the bulb for. I recommend them, and it calibrates just like factory.

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My 5020ub just died. Starts to turn on for about 3 seconds and then all of a sudden the fan stops and the lamp and power light flash red. It's out of warranty by a few months, but Epson immediately said they'll send a replacement unit. I was quite surprised, the agent didn't have me do any trouble shooting. Maybe it's happening a lot? It has very few hours on it as it's in a dedicated theater in basement that i unfortunately (for me) don't get down to use as much as I would like.
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sucks just a few months past warranty and it fails, its good that there going to replace it
I've got warranty to the end of April if mine fails and they don't replace it and its going to cost a arm & leg to fix. its going through there biggest window screw their quality control I have said this before if you have a good unit focus panel picture you might want to get them to fix yours just a thought

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My 5020ub just died. Starts to turn on for about 3 seconds and then all of a sudden the fan stops and the lamp and power light flash red. It's out of warranty by a few months, but Epson immediately said they'll send a replacement unit. I was quite surprised, the agent didn't have me do any trouble shooting. Maybe it's happening a lot? It has very few hours on it as it's in a dedicated theater in basement that i unfortunately (for me) don't get down to use as much as I would like.
That is excellent customer service. Good to know Epson stands behind its products.
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Greetings, fellow owners - sorry to be so late to the 5020 party!

I recently upgraded my trusty 7500UB that I bought used just over two years ago, to an almost-new 5020UBe (~370 hrs) that was bought from a fellow local Forum member earlier this month. After comparing the two PJs side-by-side (well, "top-to-bottom" since the 7500 was still ceiling-mounted) with the same source material in my dedicated media room, it was an easy decision to buy the 5020 for the great price that it was graciously offered to me. I was also fortunate that he brought his calibration gear with him to perform a complete calibration in my room, and it was dialed in quite accurately.

For the few issues that others have discussed on this thread, my convergence did not seem to have any issues whatsoever. Nor have I seen any flickering/dimming lights that has been mentioned. I do run my lamp on Eco mode and do not use the Dynamic Iris, and I'm getting right at 14 fL off my 135", 1.1 gain Elite fixed frame screen. The PJ is almost directly above the main LP, but I have a simple, removable sheet metal hush box lined with 1" studio foam that eliminates most fan noise save for the quietest moments. I don't use the wireless HDMI feature as I already have two HDMI runs to the PJ, plus my gear is remotely located in an adjacent room so no line-of-sight is available.

For the handful of movies I've had time to watch so far with the calibrated settings, I have to say that I am nothing but impressed (and very happy) with the overall picture quality of the 5020. I thought the 7500 threw a great picture (which I still think it does quite well), but the 5020 has just taken me to the next level with its overall better performance. Details are a bit sharper, colors have a bit more "pop" (which might be due to the extra brightness), and the blacks are just a bit blacker. One big improvement I've noticed is the depth the picture now has on good transfers such as Tron Legacy and Skyfall. It really draws me into the movie more than before, which is something that I don't recall experiencing before...

So hopefully I won't have any issues with the 5020 and will only be posting here with general questions, or maybe even help answer another member's question. So for now, chalk me up as a very happy 5020 owner...

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