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Acer has introduced a number of new projects in its H-series. (H6519BD) The projectors are MHL-compatible, allowing mobile devices to be connected to them. The True 24p-function should ensure that the projected video is of movie quality. Does any one know if the the Roku Streaming Stick will work with the H6510BD as it has a MHL connection
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Acer has introduced a number of new projects in its H-series. (H6519BD) The projectors are MHL-compatible, allowing mobile devices to be connected to them. The True 24p-function should ensure that the projected video is of movie quality. Does any one know if the the Roku Streaming Stick will work with the H6510BD as it has a MHL connection
I don't know. But my question to you regarding a device like that would be: Have you considered what the audio is going to sound like from the mono speakers of the H6510bd? Because that is going to be your audio output if you plug it directly into the projector. I don't care how well it streams video, if the audio sounds like a transistor radio from the 1960's, the experience is not going to be very satisfactory. Those Roku sticks are made for TV's with their own stereo speakers--not a projector with a 2-watt mono speaker. Better to have a stereo receiver to feed something like that through--which kind of defeats the purpose of a compact device like that.
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Yes CartnanDDT, I agree with you 100% about the sound quality, but I was thinking of using it as a teaching aid in my lessons at school. If I can stream 3D science material some students would take notice. But just a though.
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How big are your classes that you can support DLP Link glasses for all the students to see 3D ?

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It has audio out. Who needs actual knowlege when assumptions are so much easier?
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15-20 students. some DLP glasses on amazon are as low as $20 a pair and there can be discounts for bulk buy at schools, but again just a though. Back to a MHL connection, seems a good connection to have on a projector that can convert a streaming image to 3D ..No?
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It has audio out. Who needs actual knowlege when assumptions are so much easier?
I have to agree. So you assume there's an audio digital to analog converter in this projector that will send that audio out the 3.5mm jack? Or do you think that audio is limited to feeding out only what is fed in via the 3.5 mm input, like the VGA in/out? Because the latter would have been my guess.
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How bout instead of guessing, you do some research before commenting?
Of course theres a DAC.. the speaker works with HDMI right? One could assume theres a 3.5mm preout also, or actually find out : "HDMI audio is converted and out-putted through the 3.5 mm Audio jack." and offer useful advice instead.

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HDMI audio is converted and out-putted through the 3.5 mm Audio jack. Confirmed. I'm wrong yet again.
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what exactly is AcuMotion's blur control? how it works?
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thinking about getting this projector to use as an ouside on the patio projector, since its 3000 lumens, 3d ready, and portable..

I basically would just have to run a HDMI cable from a PS3 and use pc speakers for this outside correct?

should I reconsider?
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thinking about getting this projector to use as an ouside on the patio projector, since its 3000 lumens, 3d ready, and portable..

I basically would just have to run a HDMI cable from a PS3 and use pc speakers for this outside correct?

should I reconsider?

For night time viewing you could have a huge screen. For daytime viewing I can't imagine it being even remotely usable.
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it would be like sundown to darkness... so barely any light at sundown....
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it would be like sundown to darkness... so barely any light at sundown....

I have done twilight movie showings with my hd72 and as long as your screen is shaded from the sun and you are ok with a really washed out picture, I would think you will be ok.

From what I have read 3D mode would have to be reserved until it's pretty close to dark for anything satisfactory.

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Well, I just tested for overscan from both my computer and my PS3, each of which is connected via the HDMI inputs. [...] Results: No overscan or moire found, just perfect 1:1 pixel ratio. Just as perfect as when I tested it with the checkerboard test image when I first got it about a month ago, but this time I used images that visibly demonstrated the edges...

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...The projector probably only crops ycbr sources like a bluray player and not rgb sources like a computer or ps3. The viewsonic 7820, which I think is a clone of this acer, was shown to crop with ycbr but not rgb...

I'm not in a position to do so right now, but this is something I could test further. I have access to a number of Blu-ray players and other sources. It seems like a good idea to add a comment on this issue to our review, especially given the importance of 1:1 pixel mapping in HD projectors.
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I'm not in a position to do so right now, but this is something I could test further. I have access to a number of Blu-ray players and other sources. It seems like a good idea to add a comment on this issue to our review, especially given the importance of 1:1 pixel mapping in HD projectors.

kraine reported the issue with an oppo bdp-83. I haven't noticed anyone else reporting having issues.
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If I could chime in again on the issue, I have an NVidia GT460 graphics card that does give me the option of YCbCr 4:4:4 output. When I selected this for the projector, I still had no issues with overscan or moire, rendering was 1:1. Maybe YCbCr 4:2:2 is where the issue arises? Simply a non-issue for any of my inputs.
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I've had this projector ceiling mounted since I bought it a month ago. It seems to me that the fan has gotten louder, even at the same ambient temperature. Has anybody else noticed this?
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I've had this projector ceiling mounted since I bought it a month ago. It seems to me that the fan has gotten louder, even at the same ambient temperature. Has anybody else noticed this?

I also have the projector ceiling mounted, but i have not noticed the fan noise getting louder.

And is there a way to get the settings from the ProjectorCentral.com review? So that the greyscale reaches 6500K?

The standard settings makes the white seem abit pink.
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4/18 - J&R and Buy.com has this projector in stock for 739. Placed an order with J&R with 5% cashback from shopdiscover bringing the net cost to ~700 (-$14 cashback at J&R if it is of any value).


4/19 - Based on the lowered newegg price, I negotiated my J&R order down to 650 minus cashback (even though it was sold out at newegg). Also, called newegg, they have 10 projectors that are yet to be unloaded in the warehouse before the website will show in stock ETA - Sat or Mon
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This projector is actually $629 on newegg right now through 4/25 with their 10% off deal. That's crazy low just for 1080p let alone one with 3D.
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This projector is actually $629 on newegg right now through 4/25 with their 10% off deal. That's crazy low just for 1080p let alone one with 3D.
Holy Crap! I would have gladly waited a month for my projector if I could have saved $170!!!
That is an "I can't pass that up" price.
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This projector is actually $629 on newegg right now through 4/25 with their 10% off deal. That's crazy low just for 1080p let alone one with 3D.

I searched through the deals and didn't see the 10% coupon for the projector. $699 from Newegg is still a very enticing price but can you please point me towards how to find the 10% off deal?

Thanks,
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EMCXSWL25 is the code according to slickdeals

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I also have the projector ceiling mounted, but i have not noticed the fan noise getting louder.

And is there a way to get the settings from the ProjectorCentral.com review? So that the greyscale reaches 6500K?

The standard settings makes the white seem abit pink.

We list our RGB settings in the review. You can find them on the Performance page.

Two things you should keep in mind: one, the settings we used didn't result in a perfect picture on our projector, and two, the settings might make your projector look completely wrong. That happens sometimes. Don't assume "this must be right" just because we said so. Trust your eyes.
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EMCXSWL25 is the code according to slickdeals

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Thanks Peteybob, I found it right after I posted also in their "Think Green Savings Eggxtreme"

EMCXSWL25 is the correct code as Peteybob mentioned
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Hmm, sold out.
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I usually buy from amazon but since its sold out ill have to buy it fromone of the third parties , anyone got any experience with them or should i wait a few weeks?

Acer H6510BD 3D Home Theater Projector (White)
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I had some time this afternoon, so I tested 1:1 pixel matching on the H6510BD and did not find any abnormalities. Here's the details:

Projector: Acer H6510BD
Source: OPPO BDP-83 Blu-ray player (Firmware BDP83-40-0925)
Output: 1080p output over HDMI
Test material: Digital Video Essentials HD Basics Blu-ray, 1:1 pixel clock & phase pattern
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YCbCr 4:4:4  1:1 scan correct
YCbCr 4:2:2     1:1 scan correct
RGB Video       1:1 scan correct
RGB PC          1:1 scan correct

In all modes I found I was able to obtain 1:1 pixel matching by using either the "Auto" or "Underscan" settings on the HDMI Scan Info control. Interestingly, I found that "Auto" would default to about 3% overscan using a different player (Panasonic DMP-BDT310) but "Underscan" still gave me 1:1 matching. This sounds like a player-projector interaction quirk rather than a pure projector quirk, however, as I haven't noticed this behavior on any other projectors.

Since my test essentially says "results as expected" I won't be editing the review to comment on the issue.
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It's available from Newegg again, I just ordered it. I'll post my opinion of it versus an old Benq w1000 when I get it. $630 is a great price, hopefully there aren't defects in this like the h9500bd.
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