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Singh007's Avatar Singh007 02:24 AM 01-14-2013
Just bought a Mitsubishi hc4000 from costco. Its a nice projector, good picture, colors etc. I have a nice dark family room, with nice furniture, decor, and artwork. Its a place i like to hang out with friends and family while having a cup of coffee and chatting, or watching the nfl game while eating pizza. We like to have some ambient lighting in the room. I have nice recessed lighting in the room, and like to have them on low when entertaining. However, I can also get this room totally dark for watching movies. All the furnitre, decor, floor etc. is dark.

.I wonder if the 1300 lumen hc4000 is not bright enough for me in this situation. I am actually getting a lot of washout at my desired lighting level. I like the picture of this PJ overall in the dark. Is there anything in this price range with more lumens that i should look at? I dont want the epson 8350 (DLP fan)....how about the benq w6000? I can get it for about $1100, used about 2 years, with a brand new un-used lamp included. Is that a good deal? Is the benq w6000 as good as the mits hc4000? I just want a nice looking pj, with lights on, just sold my Panasonic Plasma a few weeks ago It was last years, high end model.. and was calibrated perfectly. I then bought a viewsonic pro8200 and i loved its brightness...it was very bright and didn't washout, however...i didn't like the image quality. Too much image noise, So back to costco it went. I then bought an hc4000 from costco. What PJ should i look at that will give me a nice image in ambient lighting, as sharp, or sharper than the hc4000. My range is under $1400 total, I can get the benq w6000 with new lamp for $1100...I like the hc4000, but dont want to be stuck watching it all the time on the dark. Thanks for your advice in advance!

rhill0's Avatar rhill0 12:38 PM 01-14-2013
I would look at a BenQ W1070. It will be much brighter. Check out the thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1435626/benq-w1070-dlp-full-hd-3d-ready-with-lens-shift-for-1000


Robert
kmannth's Avatar kmannth 12:44 PM 01-14-2013
What size and type of screen do you have? Mits w6000 should be a big step up in dlp light.
Singh007's Avatar Singh007 08:30 PM 01-14-2013
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Originally Posted by kmannth View Post

What size and type of screen do you have? Mits w6000 should be a big step up in dlp light.

I have a 108" screen, DIY using BOC. I honestly don't care about 100% accurate colors for daytime/ambient light viewing. Just as long as as it looks "okay"...my real viewing is in the total dark. Just need something that will work for both environments.
Jim McC's Avatar Jim McC 08:39 PM 01-14-2013
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Originally Posted by rhill0 View Post

I would look at a BenQ W1070. It will be much brighter. Check out the thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1435626/benq-w1070-dlp-full-hd-3d-ready-with-lens-shift-for-1000


Robert


I agree with the W1070, IF it will work with your screen size and throw distance. DO NOT buy a used projector.
Singh007's Avatar Singh007 11:40 PM 01-14-2013
unfortunately, the w1070 wont work. It was the first one i considered. PJ will be too low from the ceiling, and in an awkward place. The Benq w6000 that is being sold will come with a brand new lamp. I still shouldn't get it?
Singh007's Avatar Singh007 11:58 PM 01-14-2013
What about the paNASONIC PT-AR100U? I know its lcd, but i have a panasonic lcd tv, and its the closest i've seen any lcd come to a plasma. Is the AR100U as sharp as the hc4000? I am spoiled now by the sharpness of the hc4000, that it will be tough to go to something that is softer.
coderguy's Avatar coderguy 12:28 AM 01-15-2013
The Benq w6000 is sharper than the Mits hc4000, I think you will like it. I own a Benq w7000 and I've seen a Benq w6000, personally I think it is an ok deal with the extra lamp, but I would buy a second-hand warranty to add to it since it is a used purchase. The native black levels aren't quite as good as the Mits, but they should be ok if ambient lighting is your main issue.

The Benq is the sharpest projector you will find under $3000, nothing else is as sharp really. The Panasonic will not be as sharp as the Benq, hard to say vs. the Mits, the Panny might have better focus uniformity but I doubt it will even be as sharp as the Mits either.
Singh007's Avatar Singh007 12:50 AM 01-15-2013
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

The Benq w6000 is sharper than the Mits hc4000, I think you will like it. I own a Benq w7000 and I've seen a Benq w6000, personally I think it is an ok deal with the extra lamp, but I would buy a second-hand warranty to add to it since it is a used purchase. The native black levels aren't quite as good as the Mits, but they should be ok if ambient lighting is your main issue.

The Benq is the sharpest projector you will find under $3000, nothing else is as sharp really. The Panasonic will not be as sharp as the Benq, hard to say vs. the Mits, the Panny might have better focus uniformity but I doubt it will even be as sharp as the Mits either.

Thanks coderguy. What is this second hand warranty you speak of? Never heard of it. Is there anything else I should be looking for when buying the 2 year used benq w6000? Are there any known issues, and how can i spot any problems. The buyer will still have the old lamp in there when i look at it, and said he will purchase and give me the new lamp once i confirm to buy. Definitely interested in this 2nd hand warranty.
Singh007's Avatar Singh007 12:29 PM 01-15-2013
I'm so hearing about some issues with the iris on these models... Is that a big problem?
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