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post #181 of 661 Old 04-24-2013, 09:51 AM
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I'm still using the optoma GT720, I haven't already bought the Benq W1080st!
I want to check first the pixeling effect, and receive some review about the 3D perfomance and black level from the owners! smile.gif
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I guess we are on the same boat smile.gif

In a way, I would like to wait and see if Optoma is going to release a 1080p version of their GT series with the promise of zero lag gaming... But the price tag of this is very appealing even for a slight lag...

The only thing that is holding me back (a bit) is the old 3Dvision setup I have.... The cost of getting all the 144hz 3D glasses is what I am not sure about...rolleyes.gif

Does anyone know whether the Playstation 3D glasses and the Sony TDGBR750 Titanium 3D Active Glasses are compatible with this projector?
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Yes, we are on the same boat!

Optoma for sure will made a Short throw Full HD VPR... but the questions are WHEN and what will be the PRICE range?
This Benq is amazing, and the price is very aggressive. However I want to wait a while to see what optoma want to do and to read some feedback from the owners..
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In case anyone had their eye on this projector, Newegg has a 10% off code (EMCXSWL25) for this projector, making the total ~$989 with free shipping. I took advantage of this and wanted to pass it along: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014330&Tpk=w1080st&IsVirtualParent=1. The 10% off code ends today.

My projector arrives today. Can't wait to hook it up!
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Damn, nice savings!
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God I wish we could get that thing Here already, could you post your impressions please?
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God I wish we could get that thing Here already, could you post your impressions please?
What do you mean? A lot of this discussion thread is people talking about the projector and how they like it and stuff. I freaking love mine smile.gif
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So it sounds like this PJ is very similar to the much lauded W1070 but with a few differences (aside from the short throw). Does anyone know the speed of the color wheel on the 1080? The 1070 is a 6x I believe and I read a bunch of reviews and no mention of rainbows but have read a review of the 1080 where they mentioned rainbows.

Also do the W1070 and W1080 use different methods of 3D (the 120hz vs. 144hz thing)? Is one better than the other?
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Divinity, I was talking to garypetro, the more impressions the better:)
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I took the plunge and ordered one from Amazon last night (should be here by Tuesday night)... Since I am still uncertain due to its integration of my existing setup, I went with Amazon as they have a better return policy, instead of Newegg (which I can pay about $120 less with the 10% off).

Two keys things I will pay more attention when it arrives are - 1) Noise level under Eco Smart compare to my existing GT720 under Eco, and 2) 3DTV implementation/experience vs. my existing 3dVision setup with the GT720.
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I took the plunge and ordered one from Amazon last night (should be here by Tuesday night)... Since I am still uncertain due to its integration of my existing setup, I went with Amazon as they have a better return policy, instead of Newegg (which I can pay about $120 less with the 10% off).

Two keys things I will pay more attention when it arrives are - 1) Noise level under Eco Smart compare to my existing GT720 under Eco, and 2) 3DTV implementation/experience vs. my existing 3dVision setup with the GT720.

Well the 3DTV looks choppy at 24p and you cant have surround 3dtv play. only one screen will enable.

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Well the 3DTV looks choppy at 24p and you cant have surround 3dtv play. only one screen will enable.

That is sad to hear... Look as if Nvidia has given up on supporting 3dVision rolleyes.gif

I have also placed an order for these 144hz glasses (heard they are the same as the True Depth ones from the w1070 thread, but cost a few bucks less)...
http://www.amazon.com/DLP®-3ACTIVE®-Glasses-Projectors-Rechargeable/dp/B0058VYPXO/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1367012393&sr=8-9&keywords=144hz+3d+glasses
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So it sounds like this PJ is very similar to the much lauded W1070 but with a few differences (aside from the short throw). Does anyone know the speed of the color wheel on the 1080? The 1070 is a 6x I believe and I read a bunch of reviews and no mention of rainbows but have read a review of the 1080 where they mentioned rainbows.

Also do the W1070 and W1080 use different methods of 3D (the 120hz vs. 144hz thing)? Is one better than the other?

The W1070 and W1080ST are the same projector with different lenses. Same specs and same owners manual.
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I have personally seen no rainbows, but maybe my eyes are too slow. That stuff seems to be extremely subjective, as I have read at least one review where the guy made it seem like you can't even look at the projected image without seeing all kinds of crap. the stuff I read says it is a "6x" color wheel as well.
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PC Mag posts a review of the 1080....

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417441,00.asp
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I'm about 99% certain this was already linked to from this same thread, because I remember making fun of that guy's bad writing.
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Hey,

i ordered the W1080ST from newegg..

what is a good safe and sturdy ceiling mount for this projector, it will be in my unfinished basement , with 8 foot ceilings..

thanks alot and i appreciate all the help.
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I'm looking for this in Germany at the moment, anyone have any leads? Seems to be generally unavailable in Europe. That's a shame - I'd buy this today smile.gif
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buacha, I live in germany too and the sales guy said they do not have a launch date yet, but that it WILL be released here at some point...grrr. However, rumor has it that it will be released in Switzerland mid-May...
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is available in many shops here in italy:

http://www.trovaprezzi.it/prezzo_videoproiettori_w1080st.aspx

at the moment is available in 4 online shops

It seems that it is available in Italy. I am also looking forward to buy it in Europe
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FYI The latest firmware as of today for the w1080st is 1.02, and the w1070 is still 1.05. I have a direct source. (no, please don't ask me via PM, when they get released I'll post them)

IMO it's stupid for BenQ to not encourage people (i.e. make it not void your warranty), for upgrading your own firmware, to avoid all that shipping cost and labour costs. tsk tsk. Just make you sign a waiver stating if you brick your device with that you're on your own, but any other defect is still covered.

PC Mag is utterly irrelevant, sigh. I used it read it in print form, before the Internet was available to me circa 1997.
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It seems that it is available in Italy. I am also looking forward to buy it in Europe

Non disponibile = not available...even though they have listed it...they probably just want to get a jump on the sales...
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buacha, I live in germany too and the sales guy said they do not have a launch date yet, but that it WILL be released here at some point...grrr. However, rumor has it that it will be released in Switzerland mid-May...

If I hear anything I'll post it here. Maybe may then...
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Got my unit (March 2013 Rev 1.02) from the latest Amazon stock this afternoon, along with the Dimensional Optics Active3D glasses, Hoya ND2 filter and the 67mm to 72mm step up ring...

So far just to compare to my old Optoma GT720, here is my quick findings besides obvious spec differences (i.e. 1080p vs. 720p and etc...)

DJUFUK, you may be interested in these...

Things I like:
1). Zooming capability allows me to have the projector to place about 5 inches closer to the screen than before (btw, I am projecting on an 80" Sony DynaClear approx 1.8 gain pullup screen)
2). Not so much of "hot spot" effect as the GT720 (surprisingly) even I have placed the projector closer to the screen than before
3). Brighter picture under 3D than GT720 using 3DVision (was watching Dredd through PS3)
4). Start up is as fast as the GT720

Things that annoyed me:
1). The fan noise is much more noticeable even under Smart Eco mode compare to GT720 under Eco mode.
2). Looks like there is some minor uneven focus, especially upper right corner (again, I will try to spend more time to figure it out this week).
3). Took a bit longer time for HDMI handshake (screen would go source searching for longer when switching between XMB menu to movie/game on the PS3).
4). I see a bit of RBE during dark to brighter scene (i.e. the first scene of dropping the junkies under slo-mo from the roof in Dredd).

Again, I will play with it more for the rest of the week. I am also having trouble to fit the ND2 filter and adapter... i wonder if I need to jam the adapter in...

A side note, the Dimensional Optics glasses works really well - comfortable, no temple squeeze on my big head, blocked all DLP red tint, and pretty light weight for a rechargable. I think they are the same as the ones TrueDepth is selling, but almost $10 cheaper and comes with a nice case, cleaning cloth and a micro usb cord. Just make sure it is the 144hz DLP link model (see the link from my previous post), otherwise it wouldn't work.
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Thanks for the feedback Kenshin!!
I'm happy to read it, especially because we are two owners of Optoma GT720!!

About the focus problem it can be caused by the zoom. If you can avoid to use the zoom is better. wink.gif

How is the black level compared to the Optoma GT720? How is the pixeling effect of this full HD vpr? Have you tried with an HTPC to set the refresh rate of 120hz and use the Optoma 3D glasses?

Thanks in advance!!!! smile.gif
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You are welcome Djufuk smile.gif

The uneven focus issue still exist whether I use zoom or no zoom... It could be just this unit...

The black level is a notch better than the GT720, really love the contrast, especially in games like Tomb Raider.

The pixel noise is less noticeble than GT720 even at a 1ft distance.

Since this only supports 3DTV Play through PC on HDMI, 3D would either work in 720P @ 60hz or 1080P @24hz... I only uses the 3DVision ver1 & ver2 glasses with the GT720... and I can get neither of those glasses work..

I will try to play some racing/FPS games through PC, XBox and PS3 the next few days and see whether the "minimal" lag of this things would bug me wink.gif
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Thanks for the feedback!

The black level of the GT720 is really horrible.. The W1080st will be an amazing "step forward"! biggrin.gif
Thanks for the opinion about the pixeling effect (my screen is 146".. and I watch it from 9 feet, so is very important!)

The last doubt before buy it is about the 3D. I watch always a lot of contenent converted from 2D to 3D in real-time with the Tridef DDD software.. and the best result with the DLP is the frame packing!
Unfortunately you are using Nvidia and not ATI (that is really more flexible about the 3D).
So I need to use this VPR at 1920x1080 @ 120 or 144 hz!
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can someone who owns this model make a youtube video of it showing off games or blu rays. thanks.
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I could but my "main" video camera right now is a Go Pro Hero 3 Silver Edition, which isn't the best for low-light video quality.
Also, I pretty much only watch content off of an NAS played via XBMC on a Windows computer, as opposed to off of actual BluRay discs via a dedicated BluRay player.
What games / movies would you want to see? I STILL haven't gotten around to testing out emulators on it yet, because Skyrim ate my free time this weekend LOL

If you give me some requests on what to do in a video I'll try and make one tonight. YouTube makes it incredibly easy to upload and share even 1080P content. My first video of my home theater was from before I had finished up my screen, so its pretty terrible.

Also, I just figured out that on this projector you cannot enable any 3D modes unless your incoming signal is 1080i. 1080P can't be used to drive 3D. Anyone know if the newer firmware could overcome this issue? I don't believe this is a bandwidth issue if you're using SBS content. I've got a "full frame side by side" copy of IMAX Under The Sea, where the video frames are 3840x1080 and it plays fine. I haven't worked a lot on the 3D issues yet because I found that my first pair of glasses is defective.

I got these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006C4DB8Q/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They will not charge at all and so they won't turn on.
I have tried multiple different USB power sources. The LED indicator will sometimes turn on red for a second when you first plug them in, then it will turn off. Sometimes it'll turn green for a second, then again it'll just turn off. At no point can I wake the glasses by pressing the power button. I'm probably going to just return them tomorrow, assuming Amazon will throw me a call tag...
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Beamershop24.net is listing this as released on 29May in Germany for those interested. 1200 EURr
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