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My friend is looking to get a projector for his living room but we can't find one that would suit it. The room is 23 feet wide and the projector will be mounted about that far but the problem the wall can only fit a screen up to 135'. Can someone please help me out ?


Budget is about $550


I was looking at the Optoma H2
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135" is actually a pretty large screen. For $550 I'd probably suggest going with a pre-owned unit.
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135" is actually a pretty large screen. For $550 I'd probably suggest going with a pre-owned unit.

I don't mind getting used. She got the idea after seeing my Acer H5360 on a 110" screen


Is the Optoma H27 a good projector as i seen one new for $300
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Not going to happen.

23 feet is a long ways A 3LCD with proper zoom might be able to do this to at 135 but they will be lumen crippled at max zoom. I really doubt you will find a new PJ for under 550 that will do this.

Your pj has "2500 ANSI" lumens rating (this means it throws out a good amount of light), as a business PJ it can do that at the expense of other image aspects. Something with "800" just isn't going to do it. It is a bit more complicated due to specs, the real work, zoom and build dimming but it will you you a good idea of the sort of light that will be needed if you want this other screen to be anything like your screen.

There are some pretty bright business and 720p projectors out there. Maybe a3 lcd 720p form the last few years would have the light and and the needed throw for the setup but I don't think DLP has a chance.


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Not going to happen.

23 feet is a long ways A 3LCD with proper zoom might be able to do this to at 135 but they will be lumen crippled at max zoom. I really doubt you will find a new PJ for under 550 that will do this.

Your pj has "2500 ANSI" lumens rating (this means it throws out a good amount of light), as a business PJ it can do that at the expense of other image aspects. Something with "800" just isn't going to do it. It is a bit more complicated due to specs, the real work, zoom and build dimming but it will you you a good idea of the sort of light that will be needed if you want this other screen to be anything like your screen.

There are some pretty bright business and 720p projectors out there. Maybe a3 lcd 720p form the last few years would have the light and and the needed throw for the setup but I don't think DLP has a chance.


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Doesn't have to be new
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no comments on the Optoma H27
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I commented on the Optoma H27. It is what the warning about brightness was about. It does not have the throw ratio either. Take a little time and figure out what all these specs mean, throw ratio/zoom and ANSI Lumens, they are the two things you should really have a good handle on if you want a projector from 23 feet way to make a 135 or less screen.

1 easy question you can sort out for yourself as you look at projectors is: Will this projector from 23 feet away be able to have a 135 inch or small screen from where I want to mount it. This will rule out LOTS of projectors.

Good luck on YOUR search.
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I commented on the Optoma H27. It is what the warning about brightness was about. It does not have the throw ratio either. Take a little time and figure out what all these specs mean, throw ratio/zoom and ANSI Lumens, they are the two things you should really have a good handle on if you want a projector from 23 feet way to make a 135 or less screen.

1 easy question you can sort out for yourself as you look at projectors is: Will this projector from 23 feet away be able to have a 135 inch or small screen from where I want to mount it. This will rule out LOTS of projectors.

Good luck on YOUR search.
that's the hard part. The H27 is the only one i fond that can
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There are a lot more. A projector that can throw 100' from 19-20 feet can throw 135' from 23-22 feet. Most of the tools don't work for more than 20 foot throw so you have to read the specs/manuals. Look at 3 LCD projectors with 2x zoom. Epson and Panasonic home theater projectors are good lines to look at. Something that claims 2000'ish+ lumens has a chance, you can run it in a non best mode and have it pump out the light, you will need it. For 500 or so you can buy a 1080p 3lcd but for sure 720ps are out there you just have to lean to read the specs.

A used projector is not without Risk. I would look for one the first bulb with low hours and a fair return policy. Check the image out good when you get it and return it if it is degraded.


Finding a closer place to project from makes this easier.

Good luck.
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There are a lot more. A projector that can throw 100' from 19-20 feet can throw 135' from 23-22 feet. Most of the tools don't work for more than 20 foot throw so you have to read the specs/manuals. Look at 3 LCD projectors with 2x zoom. Epson and Panasonic home theater projectors are good lines to look at. Something that claims 2000'ish+ lumens has a chance, you can run it in a non best mode and have it pump out the light, you will need it. For 500 or so you can buy a 1080p 3lcd but for sure 720ps are out there you just have to lean to read the specs.

A used projector is not without Risk. I would look for one the first bulb with low hours and a fair return policy. Check the image out good when you get it and return it if it is degraded.


Finding a closer place to project from makes this easier.

Good luck.
ok thx will look around
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Trying to grasp everything is this thread but it is confusing.
Bringing up friends just makes it more confusing. Got his and she all in one breath.

Let's just focus on pertinent facts.
The room is 23' wide or long?

You HAVE to mount it 23' away? No way to ceiling or table top mount? Must be 135" exactly? Or just 135" or under?

You have to keep budget at ~500?

You are handing out really tough parameters.

3LCD is gonna give you best projector placement flexibility.
~500 is gonna mean a limited lumens and/or PQ.

If you can remove some of the obstacles... i.e, go with a column, ceiling or table mount you will lesson your headache quite a lot.
If the idea is to model it after your own set up but in a much larger room that generally means a much larger budget.
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Trying to grasp everything is this thread but it is confusing.
Bringing up friends just makes it more confusing. Got his and she all in one breath.

Let's just focus on pertinent facts.
The room is 23' wide or long?

You HAVE to mount it 23' away? No way to ceiling or table top mount? Must be 135" exactly? Or just 135" or under?

You have to keep budget at ~500?

You are handing out really tough parameters.

3LCD is gonna give you best projector placement flexibility.
~500 is gonna mean a limited lumens and/or PQ.

If you can remove some of the obstacles... i.e, go with a column, ceiling or table mount you will lesson your headache quite a lot.
If the idea is to model it after your own set up but in a much larger room that generally means a much larger budget.
23' wide both directions

don't have to mount it 23' feet away but its the only place i can think of without it being tampered with by the little kids

Its going to be ceiling mounted can't do table mount as there are destructive kids who will mess with it

No just 135" or under

Yes a budget of $550
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Ceiling mounted at say 9-14 feet won't work due to kids? How will it be safe at 22-23 feet? 9-14 feet gives you new options and in general 20x the options.
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Ceiling mounted at say 9-14 feet won't work due to kids? How will it be safe at 22-23 feet? 9-14 feet gives you new options and in general 20x the options.
i said it couldn't be table mounted not ceiling mounted. But they have a raised ceiling so that's why i can't ceiling mount it closer
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i said it couldn't be table mounted not ceiling mounted. But they have a raised ceiling so that's why i can't ceiling mount it closer

I use a 24" drop extension to mount my pj about 5 feet from the back wall.

The reason is almost exact dimensions with you.
22+ to wall and that would leave a very washed out image.

But 17.5 and it is nice and bright at 120".

Is the raised ceiling so high that isn't a consideration?

Raised plus extension can be really nice for placement and noise levels. (i.e. fan noise isn't rebounding off ceiling or walls.)

For 135" and any sharpness whatsoever you are really looking at a higher caliber pj than 500 will provide... unless you find a true used bargain. (And those often mean lamps at 500+)
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I use a 24" drop extension to mount my pj about 5 feet from the back wall.

The reason is almost exact dimensions with you.
22+ to wall and that would leave a very washed out image.

But 17.5 and it is nice and bright at 120".

Is the raised ceiling so high that isn't a consideration?

Raised plus extension can be really nice for placement and noise levels. (i.e. fan noise isn't rebounding off ceiling or walls.)

For 135" and any sharpness whatsoever you are really looking at a higher caliber pj than 500 will provide... unless you find a true used bargain. (And those often mean lamps at 500+)
Yes the ceiling is very high over 20' high.

Do you have pic of your PJ setup
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