I have been looking for the great deal under $600 like so many others and have found a few interesting options. I found the acer h5360 for about 350 refurb and then I found benq's site here http://shop.benq.us/ProductCategory.aspx?id=27&name=Refurbished%20Projector with refurbs. Could one of you projector aficionados take a look at the link for me and let me now if any of those are good deals? Mainly I'm looking for something that looks good for games and movies. 3d isn't super important. If anyone knows a good deal on led projectors I'm down for that as well.