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Never said software should be free. But as of the current pricing, a decent projector can be as low as $500-600, and that includes a DLP chip, LED, lens, power supply and everything. Yet if that image processing software cost half of that, something tells me the value proposition is wrong (well, in my opinion anyway).

If they license it to one or more major brands, and ask for $50 premium on each PJ sold, then that's a good situation, and they can probably earn more profit than selling it individually.
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Unfortunately, this review does not evaluate the WHDMI connection.

Projector Central had some rather critical things to say about it.
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Frustrating to read a professional review that claims much better black levels for the 1500, then another that says they're worse than the 1070 ...

Which is it?
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Hard to answer because both of them has pros and cons :

HD25 pros RF
cons no FI in 3D

and W1500 it's the opposite;

Today I'm receiving the brand new universal RF Glasses from VOLFONI that are working with DLP-LINK,but sadly the W1500 is leaving the same day.

Kraine,
I noticed you ended up purchasing the HD131xe for your personal use... I'm interested in your reasons. The W1500, albeit while more expensive, seems to offer some nice additional features: frame interpolation, wireless hdmi, slightly higher 2d contrast, significantly greater brightness once calibrated, better placement flexibility (greater zoom range and modest lens shift), sharper optics, slightly more quiet? Your biggest complaint appeared to be the loss of contrast in 3D due to DLP link. How effective was the Volfoni RF solution in mitigating that shortcoming? Given the greater brightness and better colors of the W1500, I'd think paired with the volfoni RF solution, the 3D might outperform the Optoma offerings in addition to the 2D performance. Is this not the case, or was the difference in price just not justified in your case? Would also be interested in your general opinions regarding the volfoni RF solution's ability to mitigate or eliminate the loss of 3D contrast due to the DLP-link flash... your review (at least the translation), is very brief in this regard and provides little detail beyond that sync was achieved and it reduced the red-tint/white-washout somewhat... the extent to which the lost contrast is recovered is of great interest to me, as this would really help the W7000/W7500 if effective.
Thanks!

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I wonder what he'd think about 3D IMAX?
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Hi Doug,

The optoma HD131X is gone wink.gif Actually I have 2 BENQ at home, the W1300 and a final version of the W1500. I have to say that on direct comparaison I prefer the W1300 other the W1500. The 1500 produce more picture noise. You can have a Look on my two reviews on www.projection-homecinema.fr

Regarding the "Universal" RF glasses from Volfoni I expériment à lot of difficulties to get them work with all the new projectors. Maybe this is only an update issue but itsńt solved for the moment.

Visit the new pjhc.fr forum here : http://www.projection-homecinema.fr/forum/
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Hi Doug,

The optoma HD131X is gone wink.gif Actually I have 2 BENQ at home, the W1300 and a final version of the W1500. I have to say that on direct comparaison I prefer the W1300 other the W1500. The 1500 produce more picture noise. You can have a Look on my two reviews on www.projection-homecinema.fr

Regarding the "Universal" RF glasses from Volfoni I expériment à lot of difficulties to get them work with all the new projectors. Maybe this is only an update issue but itsńt solved for the moment.

So, if you had to choose one for 3D duties exclusively, would you still choose the Optoma?

"A wide screen just makes a bad film twice as bad. "
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I wonder what he'd think about 3D IMAX?
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Yes because of OPTOMA 3D RF solution

Visit the new pjhc.fr forum here : http://www.projection-homecinema.fr/forum/
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Just got a w1500 last night, quick testing shows that it is very very sharp. Colors are vivid in Cinema + Eco Mode with plenty of light.

One thing that I have started to notice is graininess in the image. Maybe it was there from before but I could not see it on the W500 that I've been using for a few years. Maybe it is the picture noise that you guys are talking about?

Oh, and I do not like the interpolation one bit, looks like it turns any 24p source in 30/ 60p like image.
More flexible than W1070 in terms of location, vertical shift works but it feels cheaply implemented, the knob is hard to turn and it's anything but smooth in operation.

Anyway, I will probably do a quick video review. Stand by
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Just got a w1500 last night, quick testing shows that it is very very sharp. Colors are vivid in Cinema + Eco Mode with plenty of light.

One thing that I have started to notice is graininess in the image. Maybe it was there from before but I could not see it on the W500 that I've been using for a few years. Maybe it is the picture noise that you guys are talking about?

Oh, and I do not like the interpolation one bit, looks like it turns any 24p source in 30/ 60p like image.
More flexible than W1070 in terms of location, vertical shift works but it feels cheaply implemented, the knob is hard to turn and it's anything but smooth in operation.

Anyway, I will probably do a quick video review. Stand by

Have you made sure you have turned of any over processing (image sharpening for example)? My w7000 have two or three such features on by default that caused this.
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I did not turn off sharpening, I think it is set to 1 by default. Thanks for the tip, I will have to look into it a bit.
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I did not turn off sharpening, I think it is set to 1 by default. Thanks for the tip, I will have to look into it a bit.

1 on the w7000 is where it should be though it may be different on other projectors, there is also another option in the second menu called detail enhancement that created ringing and noise.
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What is the stated differences between W1300 and W1500. I assume no WHDMI in the W1300. Anything else?
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No Frame Interpolation on 1300.

Lens Throw range is less on the 1300 versus 1500, but more than the 1070.
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I believe no 2d->3d conversion as well... the w1300 seems to be an update to the 1070, and the 1400/1500 is the mid-range for benq with a few added features (FI, 2D->3D, WHDI for the 1500), and the 7500 is the flagship with better placement flexibility and a DI. I've not heard of a replacement for the 1080st yet though, so maybe the 1070 will live on as well... not sure what differentiates it from the 1300, though... kraine?

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so what about calibration? have any settings?
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Any comparisons to the BenQ W7000 (orW6000)?
Looking to find a replacement for my W6000 with shorter throw
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Update: I set the sharpness and clarity to 0, also disabled the brilliant color I believe it's called. Result is smooth image but still a bit grainy. One thing that it is pretty annoying is that when switching between signal modes, as in 1080/60 to 1080/24 it can take 2-4 seconds, and when showing the image, the first second or so I get a strobing effect. Firmware is 1.01, has anyone seen this?
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i have projector and firmware 1.01 too
but i cant get good screen image
benq w1070 was better

and sharpness me disappoints from 0 to 2 only (
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As promised I just posted my review. The 2 issues I have (firmware 1.01) are:

- image flashing and delayed when switching between video modes
- grainy or noisy image, with sharpness, clarity and noise reduction off

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As promised I just posted my review. The 2 issues I have (firmware 1.01) are:

- image flashing and delayed when switching between video modes
- grainy or noisy image, with sharpness, clarity and noise reduction off

Hi Mevnet,
Thank you for the video review. I have few questions
1/ How did you get the vertical lens shift to go up by couple of inches? I thought the W1500 can only lens shift down (ceiling mount), your W1500 is already 2 inches lower than the screen? Did you use keystone?
2/ How is the fan noise level?
3/ How is RBE? Does it go away if you do not use 24p?
Thanks
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Hi mevnet,
Thank you for your video review. You mentioned you didn't care for the W1070. While I know you don't have them side by side, can you share you thoughts on how they compared and why you prefer the W1070? Also, can you elaborate about grain/noise you are seeing as I didn't see much comment about that in the video.

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hi nphan, here are my answers:
1/ How did you get the vertical lens shift to go up by couple of inches? I thought the W1500 can only lens shift down (ceiling mount), your W1500 is already 2 inches lower than the screen? Did you use keystone? - I only needed 2 inches, so a combination of max lens shift in that direction + tiny bit of tilt up. I had to use keystone, but just -1
2/ How is the fan noise level? - fairly noisy in the normal mode, ok in eco mode. Did not try the smart eco
3/ How is RBE? Does it go away if you do not use 24p? - I can see it, my wife not as much. It is well controlled, but I do not have any other dlp to compare with. Most of my media is 24p
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Hi mevnet,
Thank you for your video review. You mentioned you didn't care for the W1070. While I know you don't have them side by side, can you share you thoughts on how they compared and why you prefer the W1070? Also, can you elaborate about grain/noise you are seeing as I didn't see much comment about that in the video.

W1070 did not allow me to keep the projector in the current position, which for me is important. The zoom is limited and at my distance which is almost 12 feet the image was probably 102-105', my screen is 97". However, I did not notice the grain/ image noise on the w1070. It is very similar to using high ISO on a camera. Hard to see it in the video I captured for many reasons, that was more to see the overall picture and colors.

Hope this helps
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Update: I'm using

sharpness=0
noise reduction=10
detail enhancement=2

And I am overall happier with the image quality.
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Could you comment on the brightness of the W1500 vs. W1070, ie do you think its significantly different? Also how is the light leak of the W1500 compared to what you saw with the W1070.

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If I remember correctly the W1070 light leak towards the front, the w1500 is way better in that respect. You can see it in my video, a couple of postings above. As for brightness, without comparing them side by side I would say that they are about the same
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Any comparisons to the BenQ W7000 (orW6000)?
Looking to find a replacement for my W6000 with shorter throw

Me too. Let me know if you hear anything.
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W1070 did not allow me to keep the projector in the current position, which for me is important. The zoom is limited and at my distance which is almost 12 feet the image was probably 102-105', my screen is 97". However, I did not notice the grain/ image noise on the w1070. It is very similar to using high ISO on a camera. Hard to see it in the video I captured for many reasons, that was more to see the overall picture and colors.

Hope this helps

How it's better to keep the zoom, to get the best picture quality? 1.00 x zoom or 1.60 x zoom? I guess that 1.60 x zoom, to keep the best image detail, right?


With the W1500 ceiling mounted, 3.2 meters (10.5 foot) away from the screen, with zoom ratio 1.00 X, I get 135" image diagonal, while with zoom ratio 1.60 X, I get 84" image diagonal.

With the W1070 ceiling mounted, 3.2 meters (10.5 foot) away from the screen, with the zoom ratio 1.00 X, I get 126" image diagonal, while with zoom ratio 1.30 X, I get 97" image diagonal.


So both W1070 and W1500 would fit in my bedroom.
1. Which one would you recommend, if I use the projector to play games and watch movies?
2. Both have 0.65' DC3 DLP DMD chip, or only the W1500 has? In terms of image quality and black levels, they are the same?
3. If I don't really need Wi-Fi, does it worth to pay more than double, for the W1500 (770€ for W1070, and 1600€ for W1500)
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So both W1070 and W1500 would fit in my bedroom.
1. Which one would you recommend, if I use the projector to play games and watch movies?
2. Both have 0.65' DC3 DLP DMD chip, or only the W1500 has? In terms of image quality and black levels, they are the same?
3. If I don't really need Wi-Fi, does it worth to pay more than double, for the W1500 (770€ for W1070, and 1600€ for W1500)

Based upon a review from a different website, the W1500 has higher lag times which would not make it optimal for gaming. I'm guessing this will be proven true/false as more units are sold. If true, whether its something that can be addressed via setting or firmware update is an unknown. From everything I've read from early reports thus far, other than slightly broader throw range, WHDMI, FI and less light leak, it doesn't sound like there is much difference in PQ compared to the W1070. Time will tell.

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Based upon a review from a different website, the W1500 has higher lag times which would not make it optimal for gaming. I'm guessing this will be proven true/false as more units are sold. If true, whether its something that can be addressed via setting or firmware update is an unknown. From everything I've read from early reports thus far, other than slightly broader throw range, WHDMI, FI and less light leak, it doesn't sound like there is much difference in PQ compared to the W1070. Time will tell.

So the W1070 it is! smile.gif

How the zoom should be set? To the smallest image, or the biggest that can be obtained for a giving distance?
My guess would be to the smallest, to get more clear picture, right?
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