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Old 03-26-2013, 05:41 AM - Thread Starter
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Hi

I found that this topic has not been discussed here because those two projectors are really a different class per se but they just put the Acer H9500 on sale here in Switzerland (999.-) which puts it very close to the BenQ W1070. The Acer is obviously a couple of years old (is there a difference between H9500 and H9500BD btw or are those 2 the same; can't find anything on H9500 which makes me think that the Swiss just dropped the BD in the model name).

Anyway, what would you do? The H9500 is obviously a lot larger but also more quiet than the BenQ AND the picture did look better when I compared them side by side the other day (probably because of Acer's high contrast?). Anybody know if the 3D works just as well on the H9500 although it's a couple of years old (i.e. Blueray 3d support, etc.)?

I will use this for home entertainment purposes (movies, some gaming, not a lot of 3d stuff likely but it's nice to have).

Any feedback and input is appreciated. Looking to buy later this week.

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The Acer only has a 4x color wheel and is 600 to 700 lumens in its 3D mode (before the glasses). The Benq has a 6x color wheel and comes with more accurate color OOTB.

The Acer lacks a lot of calibration controls, so calibrating it only allows very basic tweaking. The Acer does have the IRIS, but overall I'd choose the Benq, it's brighter in 3D, has the faster color wheel, more accurate color OOTB, and can be calibrated to its full potential.


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Grüezi,

Acer H9500BD = 3D capable
Acer H9500 = 2D only
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Thanks for all your quick feedback. The 2d vs. 3d is what I was afraid about. Just strange that you can't seem to buy the BD version anywhere in Switzerland.

One other question (off topic somehow): How important is the quality/brand of the screen you buy to project movies on? Is it worth looking into this in detail or should I just go for a cheap model? Many seem to advertise that they are made especially for Full HD and 3d although I'm not sure how this would be influenced positively by the screen?
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The quality of the screen does make a difference, the weave pattern or screen material can affect the sharpness of the projector, and the gain (or no gain) can cause visible differences.

There is a dedicated category in this forum for screen and DIY stuff, I would post the question there to get more detailed responses about which lower-cost screens are good.


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I owned both and I would go with W1070. W1070 has a more refined, natural picture quality and much better color OOTB. Acer is horrible with RBE as I can see it every minute. W1070 is much better with RBE and if you add a ND2 filter you could cut the rainbows even more. However, you value good blacks and high contrast picture then you have to go with Acer. W1070 cannot compete with H9500 in this department. As for 3D, Acer is too dim for anything greater than 100" screen size. They are doing something funny where you lose lots of brightness in 3D mode versus 2D mode.
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I agree with Ranger as most that have owned both projectors have said something similar. The blacks are better on the 9500bd, but probably still not to the sweet spot (might want to look into a JVC for that but it is way out of this price range anyhow).


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Thanks for all the helpful advice guys!
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I've had both. The Acer might be a little better in terms of black levels, but some find its automatic iris distracting (I found it usable, but certainly not as good as a Sony dynamic Iris for comparison). A little better in blacks, imo, but not by that much to offset the Benq's advantages in sharpness,. colour accuracy and quality of 3D.

Both are really nice low price DLP projectors, but I'd take the Benq.
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Grüezi,

Acer H9500BD = 3D capable
Acer H9500 = 2D only

Have a source of info from Acer on that? Usually Acer adds the BD at the end for 3D BluRay support or HDMI 1.4a as it is now compliant. Unable to locate a H9500 on a US website to see the specs. May check out Acer switzerland to see. But if we are guessing I will guess it is 3D capable but not HDMI 1.4a compliant .

To OP I own both the Acer H9500BD and the Benq W1070. I haven't done side by side comparisons or even back to back comparisons. H9500BD is at my home and W1070 is here in the Antarctic with me. I would buy the W1070 over the H9500BD. Now take this all for a grain of salt as I haven't done actual measurements but by eye and on same screen material and some time spent watching both. The blacks are darker on the H9500BD but the native contrast in the picture is greater on the W1070. Meaning the perceived blacks are black enough on the W1070 and the shadow detail is handled better. And Coder has it correct the out of the box calibration is better on the W1070 then the H9500BD. The H9500BD was cool (blue hint) But I was able to calibrate it back to natural. They updated the firmware and have a CMS now also there is a hidden menu to do even more.

Noticed you added some gaming. Worth a note that the W1070 has been tested to be around 20ms average against a laptop and the H9500BD at 30ms average against a laptop so there is some improvement there if playing online FPS or the like.

I would look into what the specs are on the H9500 that you are looking at to see if is HDMI 1.4a compliant meaning can do 3D BluRays 1080P frame pack 24fps.

Sounds like you seen them side by side what did you preffer of the H9500 over the W1070?
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fyi - I just bought the W1070 this morning. They had one unit left at the store and I just went for it. :-) I'm confident I made the right choice based on your input. Now I just need a screen to project to.

Thanks again for all the advise!
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Have a source of info from Acer on that?
Only source from Acer:
http://www.acer.co.uk/ac/en/GB/press/2011/12029
No word about 3D.

Search on ebay for the projector. Not even one seller mentions "3D".
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I have an acer h9500 (no 3d) and i have a little problem whith acu motion ... the framerate is not stabelize ...they are also ghosting in pictures sometimes ...
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