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I had a quick look at it just sitting on the couch and it definitely as a crisper, cleaner image compared with the Epson 5010
That's because it's a single chip DLP, while the Epson uses 3 LCD panels, which cannot be converged perfectly (close to but not perfect). The 5010 does have noticeably better contrast and is much brighter especially for 3D. On the other hand the 7900 is far superior overall for 3D due to a lack of ghosting and it has probably the only useable built-in 2D to 3D converter of any projector. It also has a great CFI system that can be used in 3D mode for blur and judder-free 3D.
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That's because it's a single chip DLP, while the Epson uses 3 LCD panels, which cannot be converged perfectly (close to but not perfect). The 5010 does have noticeably better contrast and is much brighter especially for 3D. On the other hand the 7900 is far superior overall for 3D due to a lack of ghosting and it has probably the only useable built-in 2D to 3D converter of any projector. It also has a great CFI system that can be used in 3D mode for blur and judder-free 3D.
YEp, after playing around with it some more, I've managed to rig something up that allows me to watch it perfectly, so I am going to keep this projector.

ONly problem is, like I said on the previous page, it cuts in and out when watching Television...anyone know why?
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Can someone please post their full calibration settings including cms for a newbie like me. I know settings vary for each but I want to start somewhere before using any professional calibration disk. Thanks for the help !
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I'd also be interested in some cal settings.
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Nothing yet?


OK, I used the free 709 disk last night and got pretty good results.


Contrast -10
Brightness 0
Color +1
Tint 0
Iris OFF
Sharpness 0


I'm using a 100 inch DIY Parkland screen and my viewing distance is 15 feet.
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Nice. I don't know why changing setup to 7% makes the picture looks so good even though I know it is clipping blacks but not by much.
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Anyone recommend where to get the 3D emitter and glasses at a good price?

Can someone go over this real quick for my like im a complete idiot (I might be)

Where can I get an affordable emitter and glasses? I'm not making them or whatever...amazon?

Getting a speaker system....5.1 or 7.1 make much difference?

The instructions for the projector had a bunch of ratios? What am I looking for there?

Thanks for any help.
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Has anyone moved from the HC7800D to the 7900? Any overall comments about the change. I'm hearing some negative comments on the 7800's dynamic iris, was this significantly improved on the 7900? My use will be more for casual TV and gaming (iris off then anyways?), as I have a JVC 4910 for critical viewing.

Also looking for other comments differentiating the two models. I have a refurb 7800 for $800 coming but could grab a new w/o warranty 7900 for about $1050 plus a long drive.

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The glasses from Estar says it has an emitter in it?

So those are on amazon for $40 each.....is that all I would need to watch things in 3d?

And is everything in 3d? Like tv shows, sports, etc....or just movies?

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I'm hearing some negative comments on the 7800's dynamic iris, was this significantly improved on the 7900? My use will be more for casual TV and gaming (iris off then anyways?), as I have a JVC 4910 for critical viewing.
The specs state the HC7900DW has fives times the contrast of the HC7800D... perhaps it's mostly iris related? I had a JVC RS45 (and an Epson 5030UB) and prefer the HC7900DW over both by a large margin. Only drawback is the somewhat dim image. For differences between the two Mits I'd read their review's at projectorreviews.com.

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The glasses from Estar says it has an emitter in it?
You can purchase "a kit" although it requires you to splice the IR cable. I posted a recap with links earlier in this thread if you search...

http://www.amazon.com/EStar-America-.../dp/B00D39AUCI
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The emitter and glasses from estar will work but you will need to mod the cable.
The projector accepts a 5 pin DIN whilst the emitter from estar is a 3 pin din plug.
You will need to splice the supplied emitter cable that came with the projector to the cable from estar.
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The emitter and glasses from estar will work but you will need to mod the cable.
The projector accepts a 5 pin DIN whilst the emitter from estar is a 3 pin din plug.
You will need to splice the supplied emitter cable that came with the projector to the cable from estar.
Oh boy. Ok what if I'm not wanting to splice cables, etc.....and just want to get the legit glasses and emitter if needed that the system is supposed to have?
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Oh boy. Ok what if I'm not wanting to splice cables, etc.....and just want to get the legit glasses and emitter if needed that the system is supposed to have?
Buying the estar kit is by far your best option. Splicing the cable is about as hard as running speaker wire. As long as your 7900 has the cable included you can remove the 5 pin end and replace it with the 3 pin end cable that should be included with your projector. Takes 5 minutes to splice it together.

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Buying the estar kit is by far your best option. Splicing the cable is about as hard as running speaker wire. As long as your 7900 has the cable included you can remove the 5 pin end and replace it with the 3 pin end cable that should be included with your projector. Takes 5 minutes to splice it together.
Did someone explain how to do this for us dumb guys who don't know what they are doing? Hah.
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Oh boy. Ok what if I'm not wanting to splice cables, etc.....and just want to get the legit glasses and emitter if needed that the system is supposed to have?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EY-3D-EMT2H-...item2332994a93


This is what you want.
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Wow. So my options are get the Estar kit and do some splicing for $40....or spend $176 for that emitter AND then go get glasses?
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That's why I ponied up for the bundle deal when it was available. People seem to think its made of gold or some kind of holy grail to milk as much cash as they can.
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Is this what I'm looking for? I just have the projector and screen right now.

http://www.amazon.com/EStar-America-...=AGNVLBADXSP8N


And again...will this make everything 3d? Shows, sports, etc?

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If you are planning to watch 2D programs including sports in 3D using the 2D to 3D function, I'd say dun bother.
It is very dim and the colors are not stellar in 3D, in my case.
But to answer your question, Yes, getting the emitter and 3D IR glasses will get you 3D.
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If you are planning to watch 2D programs including sports in 3D using the 2D to 3D function, I'd say dun bother.
It is very dim and the colors are not stellar in 3D, in my case.
But to answer your question, Yes, getting the emitter and 3D IR glasses will get you 3D.

Oh it's not that good? I still want it for 3d movies though.

Is that link I posted the one I need or is it something else?

http://www.amazon.com/EStar-America-...=AGNVLBADXSP8N
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Oh it's not that good? I still want it for 3d movies though.

Is that link I posted the one I need or is it something else?

http://www.amazon.com/EStar-America-...=AGNVLBADXSP8N
No, this will not work.
The Projector used Infra Red emitter and glasses
Your line is for a DLP glass.
Either get the pricey original IR emitter which will work with the cheap Sony PS3 glasses or modify to Radio Freq emitter from estar america via the cable modification show about.
Please note to get good 3D effect i will advise to get a 3D bluray player and and not depend on the 2D to 3D coverter for movies.
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No, this will not work.
The Projector used Infra Red emitter and glasses
Your line is for a DLP glass.
Either get the pricey original IR emitter which will work with the cheap Sony PS3 glasses or modify to Radio Freq emitter from estar america via the cable modification show about.
Please note to get good 3D effect i will advise to get a 3D bluray player and and not depend on the 2D to 3D coverter for movies.

Ok...what is the easiest least expensive way to get 3d on this projector?
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Ok...what is the easiest least expensive way to get 3d on this projector?
The best and cheapest way is to buy this kit http://www.amazon.com/EStar-America-..._bxgy_e_text_y and get exttra glasses. This produced fantastic 3d on my sons projector. Yes you do have to splice 1 cable. Detailed instructions are on this thread. The 2d to 3d converter is actually very good on this projector but it is not a replacement for a 3d blu ray player, There is no bettter option than this. You wil be amazed at how great it looks.

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The best and cheapest way is to buy this kit http://www.amazon.com/EStar-America-..._bxgy_e_text_y and get exttra glasses. This produced fantastic 3d on my sons projector. Yes you do have to splice 1 cable. Detailed instructions are on this thread. The 2d to 3d converter is actually very good on this projector but it is not a replacement for a 3d blu ray player, There is no bettter option than this. You wil be amazed at how great it looks.

Well I have a PS3....that play any factor in this?

Have a Panasonic Viera 3d tv and glasses already......? That help at all?
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Hey, anyone have success updating firmware? Before I got this I read on here you can and now I cannot figure it out for my life, read manual re-read thread.. Am I missing something? Also can someone help me understand Frame rate conversion? I end up always having it off because it seems to cause judder or causes it to skip a frame here and there. I tried to learn about it but... Cannot figure that out either
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... Also can someone help me understand Frame rate conversion? I end up always having it off because it seems to cause judder or causes it to skip a frame here and there. I tried to learn about it but... Cannot figure that out either

Frame rate conversion calculates and inserts additional frames between movie frames to make objects' and actors' movements smooth.

From my experience, I never had any problem with FRC as long as the source was a bluray player.
I have similar problems, like judder, when I use the PC as the source with BS player. I have tried all the refresh rates and options, that the Nvidia control panel allows me to select, with no improvement.

The only way to play a movie with FRC enabled and with no judder, is when I use the XBMC player with the choice to force refresh rate according to the movie enabled.

Then the movie is as smooth as when I use the bluray disc player.
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I guess I'm mostly playing through a pc, I'll have to try xbmc and pay more attention with it through cable box and xbox. Thanks for the input
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Well I have a PS3....that play any factor in this?

Have a Panasonic Viera 3d tv and glasses already......? That help at all?
I'm not the biggest fan of 3d but It works through my ps3 with the emitter that came with my bundle.. it is compatible with the ps3 3d glasses.. not sure if yours are so search those. If nothing else, a nice excuse to wear sunglasses at night.
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Here are some settings for both 2D and 3D that I use and they work really well. These settings are for the HC-8000, which is basically the same projector but has a few extras features. I have both the HC-8000 and the HC-7900 and use these settings except for brightness and contrast, which I set at +3 and +15 respectively (I got that tip from another professional review). The settings for R G B M C and Y 2D and R G B M C Y 3D work well.

http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...ector-settings

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Price check

HC-7900 with about 800 hours on lamp less than a year old
worth 600-700?

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