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Like the tittle says: What makes the W7000 $500 better than the W1070? Please let me know the differences. I am trying to justify my spending. Thanks.
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Seriously? It is hard to believe there is nothing different between one that cost more than half of the other.
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It has better lens shift and FI
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I had the W7000 and now the W1070 and I prefer the W1070. More bulb life and cheaper, no brainer in my setup
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Thanks. That is what I would like to hear. Does the W1070 picture look better than the W7000 in 2 and 3D?
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The w1070 offers slightly better over-all IQ versus the W7000 but the W7000 offers added features.

The only current substantial reasons to buy the W7000 would be if you wish to shelf mount or you want FI.

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Both have strengths and which is better would have to be decided by what is most important to you and what is required in your setup. Some pretty good prices on both atm. If you must have FI and more lens shift, the 7000 has those features. An interesting observation by Coderguy. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1381679/official-benq-w7000-owners-thread/3360#post_23348670 If it were me, for under $1000 the 1070, or, $1600 from Visualapex, will get you a refurb Epson 5010. I think it would be better than both in alot of areas, in 2d/3d, and not be worried with any RBE.
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Both have strengths and which is better would have to be decided by what is most important to you and what is required in your setup. Some pretty good prices on both atm. If you must have FI and more lens shift, the 7000 has those features. If it were me, for under $1000 the 1070, or, $1600 from Visualapex, will get you a refurb Epson 5010. I think it would be better than both in alot of areas, in 2d/3d, and not be worried with any RBE.

Actually if you are concerned with 3D both the BenQ's will best the 5010.

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If the OP wants another look at the 5010 and the 7000 http://www.projectorcentral.com/benq-w7000-3d-projector-review.htm?page=Shootout-vs-Epson-5010
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Thanks. That is what I would like to hear. Does the W1070 picture look better than the W7000 in 2 and 3D?

Some say they prefer one or the other. I had a jvc rs55 and sold it to upgrade to a newer jvc. So, I got the W7000 to pass the time and watch ghost free 3D. I had the W7000 for 6 months before a got a new jvc rs48. The rs48 actually had really good 3D but I missed the W7000, not for 3D but for sports and hdtv. So, I got the much cheaper w1070. To be honest, I haven't noticed any difference between the two in pq. If I had to chose one, it would definitely be the W1070. From my setup, I could only get a 106in with the W7000 and now I have a 140in image from the same distance and it could be bigger. Bulb life increased from 2500 to 6000 with the W1070. It doesn't have FI, but j never use it for sports because it causes distortion sometimes. 3D is just as easy on the eyes, no headaches like I usually get with some 3D. The only reason to get the W7000 is if you want to maximize gain on a HP screen by shelf mounting it or if you have to have FI, which some like. I like it sometimes but immediately turn it off as soon as I see any distortion.
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Thanks so much everyone. You sold me on the W1070.
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Can someone educate me...what's FI and RBE? I don't see any stickie that have an explanation of these acronyms.

I was also looking into the w7000 vs 1070w. Glad someone brought this question up.
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Google will give the answers if you search for each acronym together with the word projector
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Can someone educate me...what's FI and RBE? I don't see any stickie that have an explanation of these acronyms.

I was also looking into the w7000 vs 1070w. Glad someone brought this question up.

FI is Frame Interpolation which helps with motion resolution. The video is processed and additional frames are injected that did not originally exist to smooth motion. This causes causes the image to looks somewhat to real and is described as "Soap Opera effect"

RBE is Rainbow Effect which only happens with DLP technology. It is caused by the spinning color wheel and eye motion. The faster the wheel speed the less likely it is to occur. The effect is a rainbow colored flash and seems to be more prevalent during dark scenes with bright moving objects. Not everyone sees this as it has to do with rapid eye movement from side to side corresponding with the frequency of the wheel. I liken it to blinking at the same speed as a strobe light, if you time your blinks with the light, the room is completely lit if you time it when the light is off it is all black.. eye movement at close to the speed of the wheel would show the individual colors as the wheel spins.. Personally I have never seen this with any DPL device but some people are very sensitive to it, giving them head aches and nausea. The faster the wheel 5x 6x the less likely you will see this artifact.
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Google will give the answers if you search for each acronym together with the word projector

Yep, I realized that soon afterward.
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FI is Frame Interpolation which helps with motion resolution. The video is processed and additional frames are injected that did not originally exist to smooth motion. This causes causes the image to looks somewhat to real and is described as "Soap Opera effect"

RBE is Rainbow Effect which only happens with DLP technology. It is caused by the spinning color wheel and eye motion. The faster the wheel speed the less likely it is to occur. The effect is a rainbow colored flash and seems to be more prevalent during dark scenes with bright moving objects. Not everyone sees this as it has to do with rapid eye movement from side to side corresponding with the frequency of the wheel. I liken it to blinking at the same speed as a strobe light, if you time your blinks with the light, the room is completely lit if you time it when the light is off it is all black.. eye movement at close to the speed of the wheel would show the individual colors as the wheel spins.. Personally I have never seen this with any DPL device but some people are very sensitive to it, giving them head aches and nausea. The faster the wheel 5x 6x the less likely you will see this artifact.

Thanks for the info!
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I had the W7000 and now the W1070 and I prefer the W1070. More bulb life and cheaper, no brainer in my setup
Really? From reading I was under the impression the W7000 has a much nicer black level. Was this not your experience owning both?
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Really? From reading I was under the impression the W7000 has a much nicer black level. Was this not your experience owning both?

The 7000 iris does help it, but the native contrast on the 1070 isn't to bad, and if mounted further back and using eco dimming, it might come pretty close?
http://www.projectorreviews.com/images-projectors-q4-11/w7000_5th-element_starship_bw_over_large.jpg
http://www.projectorreviews.com/images-projectors-q4-12/w1070_5thelement_starship_large.jpg
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I'd like to bump this with any updated opinions?

I was pretty much set on the W7000 but this thread is giving me second thoughts.

I think the biggest thing missing from the W1070 is the dynamic iris, right? But I would be using the iris on the W7000 manually as discussed by coderguy.

I wish I could see these two in person to compare.

- Klipsch RF-82 ii, RC-62 ii, RS-52 ii
- Klipsch RW-12D
- Sony HW50es
- Firehawk G3
- Denon 2113
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I ended up with the W1070 and absolutely love it. The W7000 does not add up to justify the $500 differences. W7000 has DC2 v.s DC3 chip in the W1070, W1070 has more bulb life. What sold me was from blee0120's post above that he had the 7000 but prefer the 1070. I could use the $500 saving for other upgrades.
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It does seem like a great buy. What I would REALLY like is the Sony HW50 but that is out of price range.

I read about a rumor that the benq w7000 successor (w7500) will be out in september sometime. The dilemma is if I get something cheaper like the 1070 now, getting a higher end projector later on will have a completely different setup.

- Klipsch RF-82 ii, RC-62 ii, RS-52 ii
- Klipsch RW-12D
- Sony HW50es
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- Denon 2113
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