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Hi,

Successor of the acer k330, the world brightest pocket led projector K335 will be launched around July.

Design is slightly different from previous model.

Main improvement is the 1000 lumens and 10.000:1 contrast smile.gif

-MHL support
-Dlna DMP and DMR (checked the certificate from www.dlna.org)




More info to come.

http://www.aboutprojectors.com/news/2013/06/10/acer-k335-projector-coming-soon/
http://www.projektoren-datenbank.com/pro/anzeigen.php?angabe=acerk335

Beside this model acer will also launch the K135/132 500 lumens output with dlna and miracast support.

Hope the k335 will get this too.
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Seriously?

How many years before we finally see a 1080p version of this designed a bit more for home theater use without a $3,000+ price tag?

Great that the lumens are bumping upward, but it seems like it is to much to ask for a 1080p panel to go along with it. Definitely worth a few hundred more for a bump in resolution.


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Awesome! Now all we need is LG to show us what it has in store for the next month or two and we'll be waiting for reviews and comparisons of all the new higher lumen and contrast LED PJs.


Vivitek Qumi Q7 800 Lumens
Acer K335 1000 Lumens or 800 in eco mode but it'll last for 30000 in eco, at least that's from the report
LG ????

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Don't forget the Optoma ML800 and the ML1000.
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The asus b1m is another recent addition with 700 lumens.
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Looks like a minor bump in spec, hopefully it will at least be reasonably priced...

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What are the odds it measures only slightly better than the 300?
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K330 is 500 lumes, maybe 300 in actual viewing and K335 is 1000 lumens, possibly 800 in actual viewing, this is a huge difference and it doesn't make sense to overlook it.

K335 has 10000 contrast compared to 4000:1 on K330, again almost twice as much.

K330 has a softer sharpness compared to LG PA75U and K335 is expected to be sharper

It has not been reported yet but K335 could possibly have 1.4a HDMI like the older LG PA75U, which would allow it to view 3D from a blu-ray via HDMI, this is just speculation but it only makes sense to have this upgrade since many other new features are introduced.

Also the K335 definitely will support 3D:



Now be gone trolls.

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The 200 more Lumens over the Vivtek Qumi 7 is a deal winner for me.
Rumors are heard that the Q7 might have a glass lens and I wonder if this Acer K335 has a glass lens ?
The Q7 does have a focus ring so it has a zoom lens.
Is it confirmed that the K335 has 3D ?
So the battle now of sub 1080 P Led projectors now is basically between the Q7 and the K330 until the Optoma ML1000 comes out later this summer.
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Hi dlpprojectorfan,

Don't know what material the lens will be made of. On the other hand,
optic on the k335 seems bigger than older k330 model, hope it will make a difference.

I mean it looks like they concentrate their work on the optic because beside that acer k330/335 look the same.
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K330 is 500 lumes, maybe 300 in actual viewing and K335 is 1000 lumens, possibly 800 in actual viewing, this is a huge difference and it doesn't make sense to overlook it.

K335 has 10000 contrast compared to 4000:1 on K330, again almost twice as much.

K330 has a softer sharpness compared to LG PA75U and K335 is expected to be sharper

It has not been reported yet but K335 could possibly have 1.4a HDMI like the older LG PA75U, which would allow it to view 3D from a blu-ray via HDMI, this is just speculation but it only makes sense to have this upgrade since many other new features are introduced.

Also the K335 definitely will support 3D:



Now be gone trolls.

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You are showing a massive amount of nativity believing the same dlp chip miraculously will double it's contrast ratio. Lol.


Keep calling people trolls, your fundamental lack of understanding for these devices and your definite inexperience shows. Manufacturers would NEVER lie about thier specs.
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The 200 more Lumens over the Vivtek Qumi 7 is a deal winner for me.

All speculation until somebody measures it.
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All speculation until somebody measures it.

Agreed, view lumen claims with healthy skepticism. Particularly when a manufacturer might bump up part of the spectrum to get a better lumen rating, but in reality the user might not want to watch due to the color degradation.

That said, myself and family have been enjoying our LG PA70G for nearly a year without issues. For the price ($450) - has worked great in a light controlled basement. It will probably take a 1080p LED projector with significant higher lumen to get me to upgrade. Not sure if anything like that will be available this year in the $1000 or under range.
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In a few days will be it's release and hopefully someone will buy it , review it, and measure the Lumens.
Inspite of the quoted Lumens for either projectors which one would spark your interests the most ? the Q7 or the Acer K335 ? The Optoma ML1000 ?
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You are showing a massive amount of nativity believing the same dlp chip miraculously will double it's contrast ratio. Lol.


Keep calling people trolls, your fundamental lack of understanding for these devices and your definite inexperience shows. Manufacturers would NEVER lie about thier specs.

If you're not interested in this product or you have something against it then why post here in the first place, unless like I said you're trolling, this thread is for people who are looking forward to this projector so you along with a few others please stop bringing negativity.
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If you're not interested in this product or you have something against it then why post here in the first place, unless like I said you're trolling, this thread is for people who are looking forward to this projector so you along with a few others please stop bringing negativity.

It's truth. How old are you?
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If a glass lens is used it won't be sujected to warpage.
I don't know if a larger sized lens will help or not.
Just hope there will be a review of the Q7 very soon as it's release will be tomorrow.
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Guys, how about the acer K750? It's a LED pj with 1080p resolution at $1.000 in newegg! I hope a can get it soon, I'm from Argentina so the buying process its a little bit complicated, but I'm working on it!
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Well it's not really led is it?
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Can get the Acer K750 for $ 900 now with the $ 100 code on Newegg.
Seems temping if no one cares about 3D.
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Any news on k335? Been searching but nothing new on search sites or here...
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I haven't seen any new lately.
Unless LG comes out with something that wows us this year I am between the Vivitek Qumi 7 with a zoom lens at 700 Lumens Vs the Acer K335 that's 1000 Lumens.
As far as we have been shown both can do 3-D natively maybe ?
Heard a rumor that the Vivitek Qumi 7 has a glass lens.
I guess it all depends on how the focus reacts on the Acer K335 if I want to buy it and if people have the same problems with it as the other early models of the Qumi or the focus problems with the LGPA70G and LGPA75U projectors.
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I haven't seen any new lately.
Unless LG comes out with something that wows us this year I am between the Vivitek Qumi 7 with a zoom lens at 700 Lumens Vs the Acer K335 that's 1000 Lumens.
As far as we have been shown both can do 3-D natively maybe ?
Heard a rumor that the Vivitek Qumi 7 has a glass lens.
I guess it all depends on how the focus reacts on the Acer K335 if I want to buy it and if people have the same problems with it as the other early models of the Qumi or the focus problems with the LGPA70G and LGPA75U projectors.

Yeah same here waiting on LG because they seem to be current market leaders in offering many features...lets move on to 1000+ lumen and higher contrast.

Market is calling...
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Yes all of that above and then some.
We heard all the talk how these companies have geared their marketing towards the business class projectors so that's why we see these 1280X800 DLP Diamond Pixel DMD in these pipco projectors because of the size and ability to fix in a business case.
That's one of the reasons we see these 1280X800 Diamond Pixel DMD projectors to slim them down.
Would like to see LG come out with a larger sized projector for home theator with a 1080P DLP DMD processor.
Of course the price would be higher maybe but look at the Acer K750 ? it came out about a year ago ? and now on Newegg it's about $ 900 ?
LG ? make a larger LED projector with a 1080 P DMD 3-D with all the features that the LGPA75U has with 1200 Lumens and we would be happy and we really don't need the zoom lens unless you can include that in to at a cheaper cost.
Pay $ 1500 for something like that ?
The market is calling, waiting and got the money to spend now LG.
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am no way going back to 720p ( I got PG70 last year )
1080p high end is calling ( wait cedia 2013 Sept )
if 4k with affordable price then thats a jump am looking for ( not over $5k just dreaming - but 2015 were dream comes true biggrin.gif )
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Yes all of that above and then some.
We heard all the talk how these companies have geared their marketing towards the business class projectors so that's why we see these 1280X800 DLP Diamond Pixel DMD in these pipco projectors because of the size and ability to fix in a business case.
That's one of the reasons we see these 1280X800 Diamond Pixel DMD projectors to slim them down.
Would like to see LG come out with a larger sized projector for home theator with a 1080P DLP DMD processor.
Of course the price would be higher maybe but look at the Acer K750 ? it came out about a year ago ? and now on Newegg it's about $ 900 ?
LG ? make a larger LED projector with a 1080 P DMD 3-D with all the features that the LGPA75U has with 1200 Lumens and we would be happy and we really don't need the zoom lens unless you can include that in to at a cheaper cost.
Pay $ 1500 for something like that ?
The market is calling, waiting and got the money to spend now LG.
I hear ya. Seems that manufacturers receive positive reviews from journalists when size is small or they simply add a feature or two. However, we consistently hear buyers requests for higher image quality through definition, brightness and contrast. IMO, there doesn't seem to be enough early adopters for the aforementioned and therefore, the market will wait a couple of product cycles before manufacturers penetrate new and additional segments. Apologies for marking jargon, just trying to vent frustration with marketing tactics in writing and this is why buyers are waiting for 1080p.
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The thing is I just checked prices for replacement bulbs for the Optoma HD25 and the Benq w1080 and still they are in the $ 250 to $ 380 range.eek.gif
Let's see now ? if you do get a HD25 or a W1080 and keep it for about 5 to 7 years your going to maybe get 2 bulbs for it from $ 250 to $ 380 so that will come out to about $ 500 - $ 760 range.
Yeah I can live with the 1280 X 800 with these LED projectors if that's what I would have to do to if I were to get a affordible bulb based projector.
Just buying the LED projector at $ 500 to $ 800 basically pays for it's self comparied to the bulb based projector.
Now don't get me wrong I would love to have a 1080P LED projector and there are a few out there now like the Acer K750 , the Viewsonic Pro9000 and Panasonic's PT RZ470.
The PT RZ470 is out of most people's cost range.
The Viewsonic and Acer K750 ? well if the price comes down then yes it might be something to get.
It also matters if someone can live with ? or live without 3-D.
For me ? I have not really gotten into 3-D and wanting to at least check it out at home.
Still I have heard not great things about the Acer K750 with it's half backed perfomance with blacks, coloring is off and in fast action motion it blurs.
The Optoma HD91 is another one that will be far out of my price range.
Actually I could get by with the Acer K335 or Vivitek Qumi 7 for movies and thought about getting the Oculus Rift for 1080P and 3-D.
On a Russian website with the Acer K335 I don't know if this is a typo but in the focus&zoom for that projector they have manual.
I don't see any zoom ring on that projector like the Qumi 7.
It's going to be a debate and battle between the Vivitek Qumi 7 and the Acer K335.
What's going for the Acer K335 is the higher Lumens.
I can only guess that the Acer K335 will have some if not all of most of the features that the Qumi 7 has.
What's going for the Qumi 7 ? well it's rumored but not confirmed that it has glass optics as in a glass lens and with that will help with a more proper focus and hopefully clear picture.
The Qumi 7 has a zoom lens which is confirmed.
The Qumi 7 also has it's own web browser.
So ? which one ? The Qumi 7 is rated at 800 Lumens vs the 1000 Lumens that the Acer K335.
Is it worth giving up 200 lumens for the features that the Qumi 7 has compared to the Acer K335 ?
I guess we will see in the next up coming months as some will buy them and test them out.
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You must buy the bare blub. The prices are much lower, for example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121114872529?hlp=false

I guess most people will not keep the projector 5 or 7 years. They will upgrade for 3D, 4K, ...

I like the idea of a LED/DLP projector, but the current models are very simple projectors that miss a lot of features (lens shift, large zoom range, 3D, FI, even most models are not full HD).
The main problem for me: The brightness is too low for a large screen, especially in 3D. (1999 I owned a 700 lumen projector, but current HC projectors offer two, three or even four times this brightness!)

With pleasure I would pay a reasonable price premium for a LED projector, if it would offer a better picture quality. This is the main topic for me, because I use my projector less than 500h a year. (We do not watch TV at all.)
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The thing is I just checked prices for replacement bulbs for the Optoma HD25 and the Benq w1080 and still they are in the $ 250 to $ 380 range.eek.gif
Let's see now ? if you do get a HD25 or a W1080 and keep it for about 5 to 7 years your going to maybe get 2 bulbs for it from $ 250 to $ 380 so that will come out to about $ 500 - $ 760 range.
Yeah I can live with the 1280 X 800 with these LED projectors if that's what I would have to do to if I were to get a affordible bulb based projector.
Just buying the LED projector at $ 500 to $ 800 basically pays for it's self comparied to the bulb based projector.
Now don't get me wrong I would love to have a 1080P LED projector and there are a few out there now like the Acer K750 , the Viewsonic Pro9000 and Panasonic's PT RZ470.
The PT RZ470 is out of most people's cost range.
The Viewsonic and Acer K750 ? well if the price comes down then yes it might be something to get.
It also matters if someone can live with ? or live without 3-D.
For me ? I have not really gotten into 3-D and wanting to at least check it out at home.
Still I have heard not great things about the Acer K750 with it's half backed perfomance with blacks, coloring is off and in fast action motion it blurs.
The Optoma HD91 is another one that will be far out of my price range.
Actually I could get by with the Acer K335 or Vivitek Qumi 7 for movies and thought about getting the Oculus Rift for 1080P and 3-D.
On a Russian website with the Acer K335 I don't know if this is a typo but in the focus&zoom for that projector they have manual.
I don't see any zoom ring on that projector like the Qumi 7.
It's going to be a debate and battle between the Vivitek Qumi 7 and the Acer K335.
What's going for the Acer K335 is the higher Lumens.
I can only guess that the Acer K335 will have some if not all of most of the features that the Qumi 7 has.
What's going for the Qumi 7 ? well it's rumored but not confirmed that it has glass optics as in a glass lens and with that will help with a more proper focus and hopefully clear picture.
The Qumi 7 has a zoom lens which is confirmed.
The Qumi 7 also has it's own web browser.
So ? which one ? The Qumi 7 is rated at 800 Lumens vs the 1000 Lumens that the Acer K335.
Is it worth giving up 200 lumens for the features that the Qumi 7 has compared to the Acer K335 ?
I guess we will see in the next up coming months as some will buy them and test them out.

I totally agree with you smile.gif
but wait the next 2 months .. not much concern how the lumen number plays ( actual lumens as they are close ) on one product to another as long they get it right and we get the image quality for the price we pay.
for the one who never experience a PJ can go with Qumi 7 or K335 but a guy like me who is always looking for a better image quality ( games - movies ) and got the experience with one of those 720p LED like PA70 or K330 wil not think alot about upgrading more like to wait 1080p one ,,,
i dont expect HD91 to be over priced ( not +$3000 ) with 1300 lumens ( its like a shame if it is over priced ) .. not forgetting hybrid one to boost the lumens out of the PJ
anyways lets wait and see and enjoy what we have until then ( Cedia 2013 ) biggrin.gif
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