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Hi All,
I am looking for a projector to be placed in my bonus room. The ideal budget would be under $1500. This setup won't be used much as I have a Panny Plasma for my daily viewing in the living room.

The projector will be ceiling mounted at least 11' from the wall and can go back up to 18' if needed. The seating area will be 12' from the screen so I am looking at projecting onto a 106" possibly a 120" screen.

My main display device will be from my HTPC which handles all of my cable, blu-ray rips and tv show viewing. I also have an Xbox360 and a Wii for gaming purposes. This is all being run through a Pioneer SC-35 receiver. I do not watch 3D at all so that is not a necessary requirement. I mainly watch tv shows, sports, and game.

My ceilings are 9' high.

I had originally looked at the W1070 but I believe if I went with a screen smaller than 120" then I would need to use the zoom to get the smaller size. Would this have an affect on bulb life? I believe the Optoma HD25 would fit the bill as well.

Let me know if I missed any other information.
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Hi All,
I am looking for a projector to be placed in my bonus room. The ideal budget would be under $1500. This setup won't be used much as I have a Panny Plasma for my daily viewing in the living room.
nted at least 11' from the wall and can go back up to 18' if needed. The seating area will be 12' from the screen so I am looking at projecting onto a 106" possibly a 120" screen.

The projector will be ceiling mou
My main display device will be from my HTPC which handles all of my cable, blu-ray rips and tv show viewing. I also have an Xbox360 and a Wii for gaming purposes. This is all being run through a Pioneer SC-35 receiver. I do not watch 3D at all so that is not a necessary requirement. I mainly watch tv shows, sports, and game.

My ceilings are 9' high.

I had originally looked at the W1070 but I believe if I went with a screen smaller than 120" then I would need to use the zoom to get the smaller size. Would this have an affect on bulb life? I believe the Optoma HD25 would fit the bill as well.

Let me know if I missed any other information.

It's just above your price, but the Sharp Z30K has been going for about $1800 in the recent Woot deals. It's MSRP was $5k and it has the lens shift and throw range you need. We also have a plasma for day use, and we have the Z30k on a 110" HP screen from about 14 foot. It has very good 2D and state of the art 3D. A bonus is a 3 year warranty and reasonable bulb costs. Check out the reviews...
There is a great thread in the >$3K Forum.
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That is a heck of a deal on that Sharp Z30k. I'll keep an eye on that if that same deal pops up.
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So on my short list of projectors are:
HD25
W7000
Sharp Z30k
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If you can afford the Sharp, (better fast motion handling), or the 5020, (light cannon). Pick one of those.
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I have the W1070 at 11' away from my 110" screen. It is a great pj for less than $900. The Z30k has flexible mounting option and better pq from what i read in 2D but not as bright in 3D as the W1070. I was going to buy the Z30k but decided that I rather save money for other HT sound equipment upgrades plus I don't think it is twice better than the W1070. Just my opinion. Like you I didn't think that I would watch 3D but the W1070 had changed my mind as I am in love with 3D now.
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How much zoom are you using to get a 110" image from 11'? I thought from about that distance you should get 120" screen size.
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Not sure. I just mounted there and zoom to get a perfect image size. Benq or projectorcentral calculation does show the zoom level- I just don't remember.
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Ok thanks. I guess I had read about using too much zoom can decrease bulb life. Is this true if not then I can throw in the 1070 into the mix as well.
I guess right now I am looking at the sharp, benq 1079, w7000, and hd25.
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I don't see how using zoom reduces bulb life. It has smarteco mode which extends bulb life to 6000hrs. The W1070 is about the same performance as the HD25 and better than the W7000 from reading here. Someone here had both 1070 and 7000 and prefer the 1070. I was comparing these three pjs when shopping for pj. You probably know that the HD25 has much longer throw distance than the 1070.
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Yes the HD25 has a longer throw than the 1070. Not sure where I read that but thought by using zoom it would affect something. Probably misread that somewhere.

You are correct that a lot prefer the 1070 over the W7000 and it has the 12V trigger that the HD25 does not. I'll need this as I will be using a motorized screen so it will be handy. I had originally taken the 1070 out of the mix cause it had the shortest throw and from some commenting about the various issues with FW. When did you get your 1070? Run into any problems or anything while owning it?
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Got it about a month ago with 1.04 FW. I only have about 40hrs on it and it keeps me smiling every time. No issue at all. I actually like its pq over my 4yrs old 60" Sharp LCD TV. I am now running 1.06 FW which is highly recommended.
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Thanks very much on the response. Guess I have narrowed down my 2 to the HD25 and the 1070. This will help to keep my cost down a bit. I was originally looking at these 2 as these have gotten some good reviews. I would like to get that Sharp projector but have not seen a deal on it lately.
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The Optoma does offer a "super wide" mode, that the Benq doesn't, but I think the optoma is limited to 1? user saved setting? Not sure about the Benq, if any of those things might be issues for you?

RE:, zoom, a couple informative threads.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1445592/screen-size-zoom-throw-distance-and-brightness http://www.avsforum.com/t/904369/brightness-question-use-zoom-or-move-projector-back
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Had not really thought of those features. I probably will not need a super wide mode as the black bars will not bother me much when viewing 2:35:1 content. I will only need 1 user mode as I will only have one connection to the projector.

Thanks for the links. Still looking over the info.
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Yes the HD25 has a longer throw than the 1070. Not sure where I read that but thought by using zoom it would affect something. Probably misread that somewhere.

You are correct that a lot prefer the 1070 over the W7000 and it has the 12V trigger that the HD25 does not. I'll need this as I will be using a motorized screen so it will be handy. I had originally taken the 1070 out of the mix cause it had the shortest throw and from some commenting about the various issues with FW. When did you get your 1070? Run into any problems or anything while owning it?

The nasty FW issues were resolved in v1.06. I have a motorized screen and that's one of the reasons I chose the 1070 over the HD25 - much more convenient. The short throw coupled with some lens shift that you get is really nice (don't discount short throw, it's really nice when you walk around and aren't always blocking the image or getting blasted by the light). The biggest negative I have with it is that it's a bit loud for my taste, but learned to live with it. it has other minor flaws, but that's expected in a budget PJ.

My opinion is: buy it, try it and see if you like it. If you do then you're done... if you don't then return it and you'll know exactly what you like/don't which will help you continue on the journey.

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The one concern for me on the 1070 is fan noise but I am starting to lean more on getting this projector and seeing how it performs. I suspect it can't be any louder than my gpu fan in my gts450 in my htpc.

Can someone recommend a good ceiling mount? One that possibly extends 18" from the ceiling? I have already found what to use to get power to the projector and connect it up to my UPS so I'm set in that regard.
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The one concern for me on the 1070 is fan noise but I am starting to lean more on getting this projector and seeing how it performs. I suspect it can't be any louder than my gpu fan in my gts450 in my htpc.

Can someone recommend a good ceiling mount? One that possibly extends 18" from the ceiling? I have already found what to use to get power to the projector and connect it up to my UPS so I'm set in that regard.

Couldn't tell you if the noise would bother you, definitely something you have to experience. It bothers me to this day... if there were good alternatives to the W1070 that had all the features I want and none that I didn't then I'd pay more, but there are trade-offs everywhere.

I really like this mount: http://www.amazon.com/Peerless-PRGUNV-Precision-Universal-Projector/dp/B000TXNS6G/ it allows you to make micro adjustments with your fingers/screwdriver. Unfortunately it's a bit expensive (especially if you want it in white/silver for LR). It has a pipe thread, like most high-end mount, so you can drop it as much as you want with a separate pipe/mount.

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I agree there are trade-offs and for the price it is hard to find something as good.

I think I had heard of that mount quite a bit when I was researching mounts a while back when looking for a low profile mount. I did not know they had a pipe that you can thread to drop it. I'll put that one on my list. Think I would be ok with the black version.

I had looked at the mustang mounts and the monoprice ones but see more get the peerless mounts.

Would this one be the same as the one you linked but already including the extension: Peerless PRG-EXB
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This is also another option: Peerless PRG-EXB

Does anyone know the offset from the centers of the lens to the top of the screen on a 1070? I think I read it is 3", is this correct?
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Now I am a proud owner of a W1070. Just picked it up today from BB as they had price matched the price from Amazon. Now to test it out and see how much noise the fan makes and update the firmware.
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