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My HC3800 got broken earlier today when I was trying to turn it on to play ps3. Now, Im thinking of upgrading to a 3D projector but my budget is limited. I need your help in deciding which is the best projector at under $2000?

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Hard to come up with a real definitive answer as everyone will mention what they have or which reviews impressed them most.
I have Epson 3020 and I have found it to be awesome.
Benq w1070 and w3000 also carry good reviews. However on some sites which did the comparison, 3020 ends up coming at the top.

Bottom line, they are all so good now that you can't go wrong with any of them. Find the one fitting your budget. Enjoy! :-)
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thanks for the prompt reply sir. Will try to view the review of Epson 3020 found here:
Epson Home Cinema 3020 Home Theater Projector Review


Btw, what is the equivalent of Epson 3020 in Mitsubishi projectors?
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DLP is always going to be "the best" for 3D right now. This really isn't a hard question actually.
The Optoma hd25 is likely the best one at 3D under $1000, though the Benq w1070 has slightly better 2D. The reason is due to the fact that the hd25 is one of the few DLP's in this price range that are not using DLP link, and DLP link causes a contrast hit. So in 3D, the hd25 will beat the Benq w1070.

If wanting the best at 2D and 3D under $2000, also look at the refurbished Epson 5010's.

As far as best 3D under $2000, it's going to be the Sharp xvz-30000 but you can only find them at that price during a Woot deal or similar sale.
Next best under $2000, hmm, probably still the Optoma hd25. The Sharp will beat them both if you can find one (at 2D and 3D).



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Noticed that you were using your PS3 so I assume you will be gaming on it. If you are using the projector for gaming, you will want one with low input lag. The Epson projectors are not ideal for gaming. They're not horrible, but they will have higher input lag than some other projectors. The BenqW1070 has good input lag. I'm sure there are more so 'll let the other forum members fill you in on which projectors are good for 3d AND gaming.
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now i'm getting confused frown.gifconfused.gif
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Unfortunately you will stay confused if you chase the non-existent target "absolutely best" projector. They all have their unique strengths. Meaning: THEY ARE ALL GOOD! Just stick with one of the most popular ones and you can't go wrong. Otherwise, I guarantee you that no matter which projector you pick, you will surely find a comment telling you that option/feature X is better in another projector.....etc.

Epson 3020 is universally loved and comes from a solid company with extensive market coverage and good reviews/feedback. You can't go wrong with that.
BenQ is not bad either but less polished and less attention to a lot of smaller details. Equally good PQ though.
Acer not bad either.
Mitsibushi equally good.
etc

Just steer clear of projectors that only a select few have seen/heard of :-)
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Unfortunately you will stay confused if you chase the non-existent target "absolutely best" projector. They all have their unique strengths. Meaning: THEY ARE ALL GOOD! Just stick with one of the most popular ones and you can't go wrong. Otherwise, I guarantee you that no matter which projector you pick, you will surely find a comment telling you that option/feature X is better in another projector.....etc.

Epson 3020 is universally loved and comes from a solid company with extensive market coverage and good reviews/feedback. You can't go wrong with that.
BenQ is not bad either but less polished and less attention to a lot of smaller details. Equally good PQ though.
Acer not bad either.
Mitsibushi equally good.
etc

Just steer clear of projectors that only a select few have seen/heard of :-)

I am also into gaming using my ps3, have you tried the Epson 3020 in gaming?
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I would take a look at the Acer H9500BD. This is the projector I'm leaning towards for it's excellent 2D performance and black levels. As long as you don't have too bright a room it is supposed to be quite a good projector at this price range.
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Also consider the new Acer H9501BD! Kraine published a very promissing review.
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Input Lag on Epson 3020 is not favoured by gamers. 2-3 frames worth of delay is reported in reviews/comments. ~80ms. That means if you are into fast action games, you may not like it. I use my projector only for movies so it is not an issue for me.
Benq w1070 is much better in this regard if input lag is your primary criteria.
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Input lag means that every action you take in games is delayed by a few milliseconds before it shows on the screen. Doesn't sound like much, but can mean the difference between life and death in games. This also causes people's lips to be out-of-sync with the words they're saying in movies. Twitch games like first person shooters are almost impossible to play on a projector with input lag, especially online.

You want to buy a projector with absolutely zero lag for the best gaming performance, trust me. Like badshah said, the 3020 has a lag of 80ms. Combine that with multiplayer lag, and suddenly a server with a with a mere 80ms ping becomes 160ms when you factor in the projector's lag. As you may know, anything over 100-150ms is considered unplayable by gamer standards. Now you can see why it's an issue.
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thanks for your inputs. Yeah, i'll be using my PJ for gaming also. Anyone here tried the Panasonic PT-AE8000?
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I think that it's no matter which projector you pick, you will surely find a comment telling you that option/feature X is better in another projector.2.gif
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Yup, there is no perfect projector. And even if you found one, it would be $20k+ and then the problem is that it's $20k and not $2k.
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thanks for your inputs. Yeah, i'll be using my PJ for gaming also. Anyone here tried the Panasonic PT-AE8000?
PT-AE8000 is not in sub-2000 category smile.gif
A great projector but some reviews say that it is a little smooth which is obtained at the cost of some lost resolution. As i said, you can't win with any of these smile.gif

Here is a practical thought: when you will watch a movie in your theater room, you will just be watching that projector---not an array of side by side screens. So, the content will be the king. My suggestion, pick a decent projector meeting your budget and required specs (input lag is critical for you), and they will all be good. The fact is that any projector today costing $800+ will do a very decent job. Before I moved up to a very high level Sony and also an Epson 3020, I had Acer H5360 which is considered to be junky by many standards here. To tell you the truth, I am still finding reasons for spending several times the money on Sony or Epson as Acer also did a very fine job and in IMHO still beat Epson 3020 in 3D smoothness and pleasant effect (I was using NVidia's 3D system) with it. The moral of the story is not that a cheap Acer is better than much more expensive and well respected Epson 3020, but that they are all very good--even a cheapy entry level one (as long as you buy a decent well liked unit).
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PT-AE8000 is not in sub-2000 category smile.gif
A great projector but some reviews say that it is a little smooth which is obtained at the cost of some lost resolution. As i said, you can't win with any of these smile.gif

Here is a practical thought: when you will watch a movie in your theater room, you will just be watching that projector---not an array of side by side screens. So, the content will be the king. My suggestion, pick a decent projector meeting your budget and required specs (input lag is critical for you), and they will all be good. The fact is that any projector today costing $800+ will do a very decent job. Before I moved up to a very high level Sony and also an Epson 3020, I had Acer H5360 which is considered to be junky by many standards here. To tell you the truth, I am still finding reasons for spending several times the money on Sony or Epson as Acer also did a very fine job and in IMHO still beat Epson 3020 in 3D smoothness and pleasant effect (I was using NVidia's 3D system) with it. The moral of the story is not that a cheap Acer is better than much more expensive and well respected Epson 3020, but that they are all very good--even a cheapy entry level one (as long as you buy a decent well liked unit).


Wow, very well said sir. This enlightens me. Thanks a lot.

Before I decide which one fits my budget and gaming requirement, please add model(s) to the list below so I can finally choose.

1. Epson 3020
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in no particular order:

1. Epson 3020
2. Mitsubishi HC7800D
3. BenQ W1070
4. BenQ W7000
5. Acer H9500BD
6. Optoma HD25 (variants)

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Good luck!
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I would get one of the benq models. Probably the best for 1080p gaming and perfect 3D. They are very bright and sharp. The W1070 has the extra long bulb life and less than $900. If you are not mounting the projector on the ceiling, the W7000 is a good option. I definitely would not choose the espon 3020
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Wow, very well said sir. This enlightens me. Thanks a lot.

Before I decide which one fits my budget and gaming requirement, please add model(s) to the list below so I can finally choose.

1. Epson 3020
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Take that Epson off the list. I thought you said you were a gamer. Like I explained, it's not even an option for you. Trust me, you will regret it.
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It's also better to game on a projector that is exceptionally bright otherwise you may have a hard time seeing some detail in darker scenes. That is why I like the Benq 1070. It is very bright, has low input lag, and very good 3d.
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