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I've owned the Panasonic PT-AE900U and an Optoma HD-65 but got rid of both over the years. Well, I'm coming back to projectors again.

Want great black levels and contrast
My chief "complaint" about both projectors was the black level and contrast were really weak. Like most other AVSers, I'm considering the W1070, HD-25 and Epson 8350.

The problem is all those are entry-level projectors. I feel like I've been there/done that with entry level. BUT, I don't want to invest extra in a mid-level projector if I'm not going to get a good return on my investment (namely impressive black levels and contrast).

Do mid-range PJs significantly improve black level/contrast?
So for those of you who have made the "upgrade" from entry level, did you see enough of an improvement in black levels and contrast to justify the expense? (If so, which mid-range projector did you buy?) Or, do you have to upgrade to $3K projectors to see impressive black levels?

FYI, for me mid-range = $1500-ish.
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Birddoggin,

I have the 8350, and while the ANSI contrast is OK, but the on/off is nothing to write home about. I'm coming from CRT though.

For a little more than your budget, avscience.com has b-stock of the RS-4800. For a little less than your budget, Epson has the 8500UB refurbs. I've seen both, and the on/off is significantly better than the 8350.

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this year I started looking at a new projector to improve the blacks and contrast on my old one. I started off looking at stuff like the Epsom 3020, which quickly led to the 5020, and then I eventually ended up with a jvc x35 and i'm so happy I spent the extra money.

the way I see it, you need to buy as high of quality as it takes to make you happy, or you might as well save your money and buy nothing. 3k for a great product is a much better value than 1500 for something you won't enjoy using.

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Birddoggin,

I have the 8350, and while the ANSI contrast is OK, but the on/off is nothing to write home about. I'm coming from CRT though.

For a little more than your budget, avscience.com has b-stock of the RS-4800. For a little less than your budget, Epson has the 8500UB refurbs. I've seen both, and the on/off is significantly better than the 8350.

Jonathan

Thanks for the B stock suggestion. I did consider buying b-stock or refurb, but ...

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this year I started looking at a new projector to improve the blacks and contrast on my old one. I started off looking at stuff like the Epsom 3020, which quickly led to the 5020, and then I eventually ended up with a jvc x35 and i'm so happy I spent the extra money.

the way I see it, you need to buy as high of quality as it takes to make you happy, or you might as well save your money and buy nothing. 3k for a great product is a much better value than 1500 for something you won't enjoy using.

I hear what you're saying. I agree in theory, but we just had some unexpected expenses, and our A/C is on the fritz, so instead of buying b-stock/refurb, I've purchased an Optoma 131Xe for half the price of a refurb. At 18000:1 contrast ratio, I expect the 131Xe to be a great improvement over my old HD65. If it isn't, I'll return it and buy a refurb of a high-end PJ.

Thanks.
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