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post #2731 of 2941 Old 06-26-2014, 05:33 PM
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Now, click on the thumbnails on my post above and chime in on how things look to you ! Now that very difference is what prevents me from buying the HD131Xe until I can find out why the lenses appear to be different. Guess I could email Optoma huh, lol. Only thing is it seems that they only know what they read on the computer in front of them. If there really is no difference then I would purchase the HD131Xe simply because I like the black, but, if the HD131Xw addresses the focus issue, then I should go with that.
May be its just me, but if you see carefully there is one brown ring inside lenses of both projectors... they both look same size, that means actual lens is similar.... If you look from some other view(see attached image), you will notice that lens is not bigger at all, it is just black plastic which resembles lens. I even talked with tech support and they said both projectors are same, they launched it because many people wanted white projector.

Lets see, anyways I have purchased HD25e, It will arrive tomorrow. I will compare it and will tell if there is any difference in lens at all (as even in HD25e white) lens looks exactly similar to hd131xw.
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Now, click on the thumbnails on my post above and chime in on how things look to you ! Now that very difference is what prevents me from buying the HD131Xe until I can find out why the lenses appear to be different. Guess I could email Optoma huh, lol. Only thing is it seems that they only know what they read on the computer in front of them. If there really is no difference then I would purchase the HD131Xe simply because I like the black, but, if the HD131Xw addresses the focus issue, then I should go with that.
One more thing... Focus issue is gone with newly shipped hd131xe projectors... I have hd 131xe(from costco canada) and when I fire up test pattern, all lies are exactly 2 pixels, they are evenly focused all around... I tried to move menu around in all four corners and centre, no problems... I attached my laptop, printed "i" in whole screen and focus was perfect all around.... So I think Optoma listened and now issue has been fixed.
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I keep seeing everyone stating that the HD131Xe and the HD131Xw are that same projectors, I beg to differ. When looking at photos of the front of these projectors, you can see the glass of the lenses, the lens on the HD131Xw (white), is considerably larger that the lens on the HD131Xe (black). Not sure why, unless it has something to do with Optoma addressing the focus issues of the HD131Xe .Which to me says that they are not the same . compare.jpg
Think it just looks bigger because they had to use a black sleeve around the lens itself otherwise you would end up with all kinds of reflections coming off a white sleeve and mess up the picture.
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Try increasing "Brilliant Color." I didn't notice RBE with my previous Optoma but RBE was very noticeable with the HD131Xe until I increased Brilliant Color.

Wikipedia about Digital Light Processing: Today however, systems with DLP’s BrilliantColor technology have virtually eliminated any of the color breakup that was sometimes seen on older DLP projectors.
It seems to have incredibly helped or at least mitigated it. The motion blur is still disappointing compared to my 2005 projector, though. Otherwise, everything is great.
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It seems to have incredibly helped or at least mitigated it. The motion blur is still disappointing compared to my 2005 projector, though. Otherwise, everything is great.
Good to hear - I'm enjoying mine but I need to raise the screen and refocus.
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So to confirm, this project has no horizontal lens shift, no vertical lens shift, and a 10" offset is that correct? It is also not a particularly short throw? It seems like a super bargain, but the margins to make it work in my room are VERY tight and I'm not sure if it will work.

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So to confirm, this project has no horizontal lens shift, no vertical lens shift, and a 10" offset is that correct? It is also not a particularly short throw? It seems like a super bargain, but the margins to make it work in my room are VERY tight and I'm not sure if it will work.
Correct, except I think it's a 9" offset. Then you may need to look at the benq w1070. Similar pricing.

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May be its just me, but if you see carefully there is one brown ring inside lenses of both projectors... they both look same size, that means actual lens is similar.... If you look from some other view(see attached image), you will notice that lens is not bigger at all, it is just black plastic which resembles lens. I even talked with tech support and they said both projectors are same, they launched it because many people wanted white projector.

Lets see, anyways I have purchased HD25e, It will arrive tomorrow. I will compare it and will tell if there is any difference in lens at all (as even in HD25e white) lens looks exactly similar to hd131xw.




Soooo, how's that HD25e working for 'ya ?
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Soooo, how's that HD25e working for 'ya ?
So far, I am not able to see any difference except body colour... lens is exact same, same remote, even brightness looks similar, same box, same included materials... I dont think it is any brighter than hd131xe... but for 2 more glasses and an emitter its worth 100$ more (emitter = 50$ + each glass cost 90$*2 = 230$)... yeah RF glasses are better than DLP Link... with DLP Link glasses I lost link in very bright white menus of some PS3 games (wipeout HD)... no problem with RF Glasses... Again in Under the sea 3d, when there are many tiny fishes together I could not see them clearly with DLP Link Glasses but no problem with RF.... there is more depth with RF glasses but they are expensive...
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Can someone who uses RF Glasses tell me if there is any humming noise coming out from both sides of the glasses? I tried 2 glasses and there is constant humming sound, looks like sound of crystal.

Normally you can not tell, but I was trying to calibrate some colour setting for 3d and I did not turn my Sound System ON, and I heard some humming noise coming out from both side bars of the glasses. I tried another pair and same...

Is it just me with too sensitive ears or others feel the same sound or there is something wrong with my glasses (they are original glasses supplied by Optoma)
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So far, I am not able to see any difference except body colour... lens is exact same, same remote, even brightness looks similar, same box, same included materials... I dont think it is any brighter than hd131xe... but for 2 more glasses and an emitter its worth 100$ more (emitter = 50$ + each glass cost 90$*2 = 230$)... yeah RF glasses are better than DLP Link... with DLP Link glasses I lost link in very bright white menus of some PS3 games (wipeout HD)... no problem with RF Glasses... Again in Under the sea 3d, when there are many tiny fishes together I could not see them clearly with DLP Link Glasses but no problem with RF.... there is more depth with RF glasses but they are expensive...
What about the picture quality without 3D. Do you notice any differences in the regular movies (no 3D). The HD25e is more expensive that the 131Xe, I thought maybe the picture is a little better than the 131Xe, perhaps a bit more sharper picture or such. By the way, I also read in other forums that the HD25e also had the same focus problem that the HD131Xe had, do you see that ? Has the focus problem in the HD25e also been fixed with the newer shipped projectors ?

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Can someone who uses RF Glasses tell me if there is any humming noise coming out from both sides of the glasses? I tried 2 glasses and there is constant humming sound, looks like sound of crystal.

Normally you can not tell, but I was trying to calibrate some colour setting for 3d and I did not turn my Sound System ON, and I heard some humming noise coming out from both side bars of the glasses. I tried another pair and same...

Is it just me with too sensitive ears or others feel the same sound or there is something wrong with my glasses (they are original glasses supplied by Optoma)
I have 4 pairs of the Estars, no humming from any of them.
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What about the picture quality without 3D. Do you notice any differences in the regular movies (no 3D). The HD25e is more expensive that the 131Xe, I thought maybe the picture is a little better than the 131Xe, perhaps a bit more sharper picture or such. By the way, I also read in other forums that the HD25e also had the same focus problem that the HD131Xe had, do you see that ? Has the focus problem in the HD25e also been fixed with the newer shipped projectors ?
Nope... I am not a pro, but for a normal person, there is no difference in sharpness or anything... Some people say that once bulb gets about 50hrs on it, you can tell real difference but so far both look exact same..... Yeah I know even hd25e had focus problems but not with mine... both hd25e and hd131xe are ok.... I tried test grid, all lines are exactly 2 pixels. only thing which I notice is convergence, though it is not much but there is some convergence in bottom 1-2 ft of the image (my image size is roughly 6 x 11 ft, 150")... though lines are 2 pixels sharp, you can notice some very dark blue shadow in next half pixel (both sides)... you notice it only when you go very close to the screen. Its a big problem with all 3 lcd projectors but happens in DLP as well but not a big concern for me as I am not able to notice once I go a bit far.

Again exact same convergence problem was with HD131xe as well, so it forces me to say it again and again that both projectors are same. So until and unless you are getting a great deal on hd25e go for hd131xe or xw.
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I have 4 pairs of the Estars, no humming from any of them.

Ohh Crap... should I contact Optoma then?
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Any discernable differences between the hd131xe and the dh1011?
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So to confirm, this project has no horizontal lens shift, no vertical lens shift, and a 10" offset is that correct? It is also not a particularly short throw? It seems like a super bargain, but the margins to make it work in my room are VERY tight and I'm not sure if it will work.
Yep. Thankfully it isn't short throw or I wouldn't be able to use it.

Anyone sent their unit in to Optoma before? I'm curious what kind of time frame they get PJs back in, I miss mine already.
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These are my setting as calibrated using my meter and software, be aware small differences between each model, the screen and the room will mean these settings will not work on anyone else's projector but they might get you in the ballpark, i decided to calibrate with Dynamic black set to low since it adds much to darker scenes, especially for space or horror films, you can get more perfect calibration by setting Dynamic Black to off but the settings below should only be used when black level is set to on and low.
 
Settings with Dynamic Black set to On and Low, Brilliant Color set to 1. Bulb set to High.
 
I always set to Reference and then Gamma to Film, this gives better greyscale performance according to the meter, this shows as User when you start changing settings, make sure format is set to Native and zoom and keystone are at 0.
 
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The above settings will likely not work for anyone and could make your image worse, screen calibration tends to work only for the screen, the room and the projector you are using at the time, i give the readings only for entertainment purposes and as a possible starting guide for some people to use.

So, I was playing around with these calibration settings, and noticed a few quirks with this projector.

1. The gamma seems to change when you change the color space from YUV to Auto (I have my BD player configured to YUV)

2. If I have my White set to -10, 4, -16 and change the green to 5, the third white bar from the right on the DVE Reverse grey ramp dramatically changes color. 4 produces a much more bluer grey, 5 produces a much more reddish. It is not a smooth transition as it is when changing any other value. Also, I noticed that the smooth gradient at the top ceases to not be smooth with some banding, but that there are darker bands after lighter ones. I attached a picture to illustrate. Playing around with contrast and brightness just shift the location/number of the bands, but you do see the dark band to the left of a lighter one, if that makes any sense. Is this normal behavior? I am using a cheaper HDMI cable from a few years ago that I used with an older 720p projector, but my understanding is that if there was a cable issue, I would be getting sparkles, not banding. Is that correct?
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I got this last week. Good PJ for the asking price. There are some issues but can't complain too much as I have seen quite a few hi end PJs at ridiculous price offering only a little upgrade on PQ.

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Purchased this yesterday from Amazon (HD131Xw @ $649)

I have a pretty tight space I plan to try to get this picture to fit perfectly. I'm going for a 94" diagonal screen and am needing the top of the screen to be 17" from the ceiling due to an in-wall speaker.

My questions are:
1. With the calculations I've got on this projector, is the 7" vertical offset going to be an accurate measure, or will that vary by individual projector? (or will it be a +- .5" type of figure)

2. What are the suggestions on a ceiling mount for this projector? If the offset is perfect (which I'm assuming it isn't) and the projector mount measurement is perfect (which I'm assuming it isn't) I would be able to get a mount to put the projector base at 10" making the projector hit the perfect spot on my wall and saving me a bunch of trouble tweaking things (I'm not expecting this). Are there any inexpensive adjustable drop projector mounts? Is it possible to fabricate a section of a mount? What about creating a wood base at the top of the ceiling to drop a mount down to the required height?

3. Third question is about the screen. I'm planning to make a MDF painted board. The projector will be in the basement and primarily used at night, but at times during the day or with the side lights on. Throw distance around 11.5'. Not planning for a lot of 3D use, and will plan to use eco-mode for all watching if possible. With the smaller screen dimensions, should I be looking at something like a 0.8 gain gray paint to get the most out of my projector?

Really any suggestions or stories from people doing similar things or running into similar issues would help. I can't wait to get my projector and start playing around with things!
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Purchased this yesterday from Amazon (HD131Xw @ $649)

I have a pretty tight space I plan to try to get this picture to fit perfectly. I'm going for a 94" diagonal screen and am needing the top of the screen to be 17" from the ceiling due to an in-wall speaker.

My questions are:
1. With the calculations I've got on this projector, is the 7" vertical offset going to be an accurate measure, or will that vary by individual projector? (or will it be a +- .5" type of figure)

2. What are the suggestions on a ceiling mount for this projector? If the offset is perfect (which I'm assuming it isn't) and the projector mount measurement is perfect (which I'm assuming it isn't) I would be able to get a mount to put the projector base at 10" making the projector hit the perfect spot on my wall and saving me a bunch of trouble tweaking things (I'm not expecting this). Are there any inexpensive adjustable drop projector mounts? Is it possible to fabricate a section of a mount? What about creating a wood base at the top of the ceiling to drop a mount down to the required height?

3. Third question is about the screen. I'm planning to make a MDF painted board. The projector will be in the basement and primarily used at night, but at times during the day or with the side lights on. Throw distance around 11.5'. Not planning for a lot of 3D use, and will plan to use eco-mode for all watching if possible. With the smaller screen dimensions, should I be looking at something like a 0.8 gain gray paint to get the most out of my projector?

Really any suggestions or stories from people doing similar things or running into similar issues would help. I can't wait to get my projector and start playing around with things!

Hi,

It is a great projector, and you can not go wrong at this price. Amazingly sharp, deep colours, dark blacks, great 3d. This projector is really a bang for your buck. now let me try to answer a few questions

1. I have not measured exact offset so cant help you much with this.
2. I have duct passing on back side of projector and on top side I have popcorn ceiling which I do not wanted to damage by drilling holes as I am planning to move to another house in couple of years, again area below projector is basement kitchen, which we dont use unless we have some party or something so I wanted my projector be easily removable as well. So I made a cheap home made easily removable shelf. but there are lots of options available for projector mounts for as cheap as 20$... just go to Amazon and search for "Projector Mount"
3. I personally believe, instead of going for MDF Painted board, go for DIY Screen. As projector screen paints will be expensive, while roughly 140" grey fabric will come around 69$. Again when you use paint, your work need to be flawless else you will see those imperfections very clearly in bright scenes. One more point, You mentioned about speakers, but you can buy Acoustically transparent screen, which will hide your speakers and you can go for even bigger screen size and though it will cost you a bit more but sound coming from screen will be an awesome experience.
http://www.carlofet.com/projector-screen-material.html
This site has a lot of options for projector cloth and info on how to build your own screen, have a look at it.

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The calculators are always off a little. I would wait till you have the projector and turn it on so that you can get accurate placement.
You're going to be pretty happy with the PJ, Even in lighted rooms it does very well.
I would just build your own projector screen. I think I've got like $130 in my 120" You can either buy the professional screen material or just go to a fabric store and buy about 3 yards of curtain backing material. I use the curtain backing material on my first screen and just replaced it with professional screen material and don't really see any difference other than my new stuff is clean.
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What a good priced mount to go with the HD131X guys?
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I bought the universal one on Amazon for $24 (which is adjustable up and down) and I had to cut a couple of the arms to make it fit right. I works good once that is done.

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I just bought a Lorell flush mount from Office Depot. Should be here today, along with the 131xe. When I get it up and mounted I'll let you know how it works. I'm still contemplating putting the mount on the ceiling or on the bottom of a shelf.
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I just bought a Lorell flush mount from Office Depot. Should be here today, along with the 131xe. When I get it up and mounted I'll let you know how it works. I'm still contemplating putting the mount on the ceiling or on the bottom of a shelf.
I still just like putting mine on the coffee table. Doesn't look very professional but I have wood heat in my place and the ceiling is where all the heat and dust heads for. And heat is always an enemy of any electronic device.
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I still just like putting mine on the coffee table. Doesn't look very professional but I have wood heat in my place and the ceiling is where all the heat and dust heads for. And heat is always an enemy of any electronic device.
I was just thinking about that as I put in the plate for the wires in the ceiling today.

Couple quick questions for you and anyone else.
1. I used the projector calculator on optomas site and at 12' it will project 100" diagonally. If I'm off by 2-3", will the zoom feature let me expand or contract the image size to fit my screen?

2. Are you guys using a special type of extension cord with this projector? Gauge, amps, etc...?

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I was just thinking about that as I put in the plate for the wires in the ceiling today.

Couple quick questions for you and anyone else.
1. I used the projector calculator on optomas site and at 12' it will project 100" diagonally. If I'm off by 2-3", will the zoom feature let me expand or contract the image size to fit my screen?

2. Are you guys using a special type of extension cord with this projector? Gauge, amps, etc...?

Thanks
At 12' mine measures 93 and 1/2" by 53" with no zoom which works out to about 108" diagonal so you'll probably need to have the projector sitting about 11 feet to make sure it fits the 100" screen. Might be able to get away with 11'6"
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At 12' mine measures 93 and 1/2" by 53" with no zoom which works out to about 108" diagonal so you'll probably need to have the projector sitting about 11 feet to make sure it fits the 100" screen. Might be able to get away with 11'6"
Ok. I'm mounting it today I think and if I'm off a few inches can I make it a little bigger or smaller? My 100" screen will be here Monday, but if like to at least get the projector up. Thanks.
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What distance from screen should this be at to get the best picture quality on a 100" screen? The defaulted zoom on Optoma's sight shows 11' 11" I think. Can someone tell me of this is at no zoom?
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