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post #301 of 318 Old 07-18-2014, 03:34 PM
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Yeah, definitely not complaining about the depth of 3D. Really helps with the immersion. I move the sofa closer to the screen, so about 7-8' away, the screen takes up the whole field of vision during 3D movies. Totally addicted to the 3D now and adding to my collection of movies also. FWIW, I have a 70" Sony LED in the living room that's active 3D and I never use the 3D on it lol. If I'm going to watch 3D, it's on this PJ in the theater room
Have you tried out the Sony? I bet it's no slouch either. My Sharp is 70" and about 15' away. When I set up the 2030 with the 80" screen it's about 8' away or so. More like being in the front row. Not my favorite way but it is fairly immersive. I place the proj. on the fold down center of my couch. It provides a good surface and so far I haven't needed to use the couch while watching. We use the outboard recliners. If I have company where I'd need all four seats I'd take the seat to the right of the proj. As it would be the warmest. in quieter scenes I can hear the fan and I've learned I can't play the movies too loud. It seems I had Avatar running just a bit too loud.
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So I got my PJ temporarily mounted while I wait for my longer downtube but now it's TOO close to the screen. I think I went from the Epson calculator. No biggie, I can move it when I permanently mount it, but I had a question that I will try to phrase correctly.

Right now there's two ranges of my zoom. At one range the image takes up about 2/3 of my screen, and at the other end of the zoom it takes up about 90% of the screen.

Does this "zoom" change the picture quality at all? Should I be trying to position the projector to one of these extremes of the zoom, or do I want a neutral position about in the middle and move the projector accordingly? I know what I'm trying to say, just not sure it's coming out right.
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I'm looking for a projector for my home theatre and can't decide between the benq W1070 or optoma HD25 and the epson 2030. I'm current leaning to towards the epson 2030 because of its ease of use ,cheaper 3D glasses I can use on it. For those who had experience with the other 2 is the picture quality a big difference when comparing to the benq and optoma?
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So I got my PJ temporarily mounted while I wait for my longer downtube but now it's TOO close to the screen. I think I went from the Epson calculator. No biggie, I can move it when I permanently mount it, but I had a question that I will try to phrase correctly.

Right now there's two ranges of my zoom. At one range the image takes up about 2/3 of my screen, and at the other end of the zoom it takes up about 90% of the screen.

Does this "zoom" change the picture quality at all? Should I be trying to position the projector to one of these extremes of the zoom, or do I want a neutral position about in the middle and move the projector accordingly? I know what I'm trying to say, just not sure it's coming out right.
You want to find a projector distance to screen that is somewhere in the mid range - not too close not too far. Has to do with the lens optics and their individual sweet spot. The projector calculator at the ProjectorCentral website usually does that for you.

I'm a little confused as to why your zoom is only filling part of the screen. What size and aspect ratio is it?

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I'm a little confused as to why your zoom is only filling part of the screen.
It's only filling part of the screen because right now the projector is too close to the screen. The screen is 120" diagonal and without pulling a tape measure out, the PJ is probably 10.5ish feet from the screen. I think I need to be about 2' further back.
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Angry 7ft ceiling with 18ft viewing

What is your throw distance? You said you viewed from 18' ?
I have 17ft throw, ceiling mount and cannot get the picture down - it's huge and spills over about 2' on to side wall. - a setup I'm trying to use from my old Mitsubishi 720p. Really don't want to move the PJ forward, it would be right over sofa. Any magic solution anyone?
Of course I bought the 2030 and THEN went to the calculator, which shows my screen diag of 176"....too big.


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Well in the beginning stages of a basement remodel and I have a section I want to use for a projector. After reading a lot and not wanting to risk RBE (has bothered me in the past) for myself or family I chose this model. Finally came last night and I am pretty impressed straight out of the box. I was throwing b-ray and ps3 games just on some white drywall in my basement and it looked pretty solid. Streaming my files via serviio from my home server also looked great. Still wanting to look at Netflix and Directtv and 3d but didn't have them available. Normal dvd's looked just "OK".

Being a semi PQ snob (owner of a few Panasonic plasmas) it met my expectations. I knew the blacks weren't going to be super black but for an entry level bang for the buck I think this model is a great choice.

Considering most of my $ will be going into the remodeling I had to start slow with AV side of things. My next issue is trying to figure out how big I can go screen size with my limited ceiling height of 7 foot. I really want 120 but that will be breaking some of the recommended distance from floor and ceiling rules.


Just thought I'd tell you that I was concerned about our 7' ceiling with a 120" screen as well but it turned out to be no problem. We view from about 18' back most of the time but even as close as 14' it's fine. Center of view is about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom of the screen. GLAD we didn't go smaller. Hope this is helpful.

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BTW, we have an Epson 3010 as well as a Viewsonic Pro8100.

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What is your throw distance? You said you viewed from 18' ?
I have 17ft throw, ceiling mount and cannot get the picture down - it's huge and spills over about 2' on to side wall. - a setup I'm trying to use from my old Mitsubishi 720p. Really don't want to move the PJ forward, it would be right over sofa. Any magic solution anyone?
Of course I bought the 2030 and THEN went to the calculator, which shows my screen diag of 176"....too big.
According to the ProjectorCentral website a 176" (16:9) screen is not too big for the Epson 2030. You seem to be within the zoom range of 15' 8" - 18' 10". Are you using the zoom feature on the lens to resize your picture to fit the screen?



Or is the problem that the 2030 has no lens shift so you have to position the screen and projector exactly?
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Cool 17' ft throw

Sorry, I meant that the calculator is dictating a 176" diagonal screen size, I only have 156" room on my proj wall with current original setup, ALTHOUGH I just realized I could maybe move the PJ mount on the ceiling over to the left 12" or so and maybe get the 176" all on front wall and not bleed over to right wall....I just didn't want to move it unless I really had to.
"Are you using the zoom feature on the lens to resize your picture to fit the screen?".........is this a secret feature or you just referring to the focus/zoom rings?


Update
I surrendered and moved the ceiling mount 24" forward and left (15' throw), now fits my wall @150" diag.
Also bought the cheapo Samsung glasses - the 3D is awesome at that size!!

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I'm looking for a projector for my home theatre and can't decide between the benq W1070 or optoma HD25 and the epson 2030. I'm current leaning to towards the epson 2030 because of its ease of use ,cheaper 3D glasses I can use on it. For those who had experience with the other 2 is the picture quality a big difference when comparing to the benq and optoma?
I had the Optoma and had severe problems with RBE (rainbow effect). This effect is visible and distracting to some more than others. My good friend has the BenQ W1070 and really likes it and doesn't really notice the RBE. It's a much better overall PJ than the Optoma IMO but I still see rainbows on it. I decided to go LCD and the reviews were very good for this Epson and I also liked the price point. To me, the colors seem to "pop" more with the Epson and there is absolutely no RBE with LCD. So if you or anyone in your family is susceptible to RBE, then definitely get the Epson. Plus depending on ambient light in your room, the Epson is a real light cannon and I've heard that LCD is generally brighter than DLP? Both the Epson and BenQ are top rated and you can't go wrong with either but I'd recommend save yourself the potential RBE headache and get this Epson. Plus the Epson has a 2yr replacement warranty!! No one can beat that. GL

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I had the Optoma and had severe problems with RBE (rainbow effect). This effect is visible and distracting to some more than others. My good friend has the BenQ W1070 and really likes it and doesn't really notice the RBE. It's a much better overall PJ than the Optoma IMO but I still see rainbows on it. I decided to go LCD and the reviews were very good for this Epson and I also liked the price point. To me, the colors seem to "pop" more with the Epson and there is absolutely no RBE with LCD. So if you or anyone in your family is susceptible to RBE, then definitely get the Epson. Plus depending on ambient light in your room, the Epson is a real light cannon and I've heard that LCD is generally brighter than DLP? Both the Epson and BenQ are top rated and you can't go wrong with either but I'd recommend save yourself the potential RBE headache and get this Epson. Plus the Epson has a 2yr replacement warranty!! No one can beat that. GL
Thanks for the reply . Will be going with epson seems to be a much more reliable projector .
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Thanks for the reply . Will be going with epson seems to be a much more reliable projector .

Just be sure to measure your throw distance and get your screen sized accordingly. The lens is limited in wide/tele range and this puts out a big picture.
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...The lens is limited in wide/tele range and this puts out a big picture.
True story! While I was waiting for my extension for my ceiling mount I made a temporary ceiling mount according to one of the calculators and it was about 2 feet off. Got the tube yesterday and mounted it up and it took some tweaking, but I'm pretty dialed in to my 120" screen now. Of course I have to take it down again to put a hole in my ceiling tile which I'm sure will make me require more tweaking.
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Just curious what settings most of you are running on this projector? I know it's subjective but might be an interesting discussion to see what settings you have and what your environment is like? Might also help a lot of the visitors to this thread as well.

For me, my theater room is a small 10 x 14 converted bedroom, fully light controlled and walls painted black (it's a dungeon lol no ambient light). I've changed my settings 3 times in the 5 months I've owned this PJ as I was converting the room. Should also mention I used this PJ primarily for movies and video games.

1. Living Room Mode
2. Living Room Mode w/ Contrast -10
3. Cinema Mode

Started on basic "Living Room" mode and that's it, no other changes and loved it but seemed to get some periods of eye fatigue as the image was really bright. Next was "Living Room" mode and -10 on contrast, in effort to improve my black levels. Then switched to "Cinema" mode and is my current favorite. Blacks levels have really improved and colors are deeper. However, I'd recommend Cinema only if your room is really dark or for viewing at night.

Looking forward to reading your responses. Hoping to learn some setting tips also so I can tweak mine further. In all, very impressed with the HD image and 3D this PJ puts out. Unbelievable value at this price point.

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My Samsung 3d glasses just arrived today. 2 of them just cross the free shipping price point with Amazon.

Right now my 2030 is hooked up to a computer and I don't have a Blu-Ray STB or PS3, but running some 3d advisor software it claims that I can push 3d from my PC. Is there anything online that I can use to test the 3d?
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My Samsung 3d glasses just arrived today. 2 of them just cross the free shipping price point with Amazon.

Right now my 2030 is hooked up to a computer and I don't have a Blu-Ray STB or PS3, but running some 3d advisor software it claims that I can push 3d from my PC. Is there anything online that I can use to test the 3d?
Search for some Lg 3D demo videos they are awesome to test 3D. Youtube has a lot of 3D demos but not sure how it works as I never streamed 3D content from Youtube
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I did download a demo video and after some playing around, I was able to get some 3d playing. It was an SBS video about 7 minutes long. I was pretty tired and didn't play with it for long, but from what I saw it was really cool. Of course I want the best 3d experience possible, so I'm leaning towards picking up a PS3 to dip my feet in it. I don't have a lot of faith that the computer is the way to go to play it. Too many hoops to jump through.
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Just curious what settings most of you are running on this projector? I know it's subjective but might be an interesting discussion to see what settings you have and what your environment is like? Might also help a lot of the visitors to this thread as well.

I used the Disney WOW Bluray to play with my settings. I am watching on a 106" screen from maybe 10 ft away in a basement with no windows. I am just a recreational AV geek, not hardcore. This is just what I came up with and I like it.

I am watching in Cinema Mode.

Brightness -2
Contrast. 0
Color Saturation -2
Tint. -5
Sharpness 2
Color Temp 0

Advanced/RGB:
Offset R 7
Offset G -4
Offset B 7
Gain R 8
Gain G 2
Gain B -3

I didn't mess with RGBCMY. Epson Super White is OFF. Power Consumption is set to ECO. Auto Iris OFF
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