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post #181 of 686 Old 10-18-2013, 03:54 PM
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If anyone is interested in the PF85K...at a similar price here in Europe eek.gif
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-PF85K-DLP-LED-Mini-Beam-TV-Master-Projector-HDTV-Smart-1000-ANSI-Full-HD-16-9-/190926351900
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I have used a set of headphones on my LGPA75U with no problems and yes there is volume control with the remote for the headphones.
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$ 1,600 ? Ouch eek.gif , hiking up the price for Ebay buyers for sure.
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didn't notice anyone posting the LG US website link with MSRP:
http://www.lg.com/us/projectors/lg-PF85U-portable-led-projector

$1200. . . but nowhere to buy yet.

If the price drops similar to the 75 we should be seeing an 8-900 usd range, which would be nice.

also bhphotovideo has it listed for same price. 7-14 day ship.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/965486-REG/lg_electronics_pf85u_1000_ansi_led.html
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Seems that it is only out in Asia. Here in Europe we have to wait another 2-3 weeks, too.:

 

http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/4050026_-pf80g-lg-electronics.html

 

The price to which it is announced in Europe is of the roof, from 1850$ up to 2300$. Hope it drops fast. This is far too much for such a device.

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Anyone know if the korean version can be used in Europe? It's just that we can't use the US version due to the difference in the powergrid, with the built in PSU it would fry if we try to use it. Quite clever way for LG to prevent us buying the much cheaper US versions.

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Razerian,

Till LG PA75U, it has auto transformer so that you can use it at any voltage range (110-240V). Is there any change in this model? The auto voltage selector must be available in this model too. Even if its not there you can buy a stepdown transformer which is available for 20-50USD.
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The price to which it is announced in Europe is of the roof, from 1850$ up to 2300$. Hope it drops fast. This is far too much for such a device.

Usually the EU price in euros translates directly to usd.
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if 1200 euros in Europe the USA will get it for 1200 usd — that's very consistent with electronics.
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We have no recommended retail price from LG for Europe up to now and the lowest price in the Shops is 1349 EUR. Let's see if it gets cheaper once the PF80G is available.

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Usually the EU price in euros translates directly to usd.
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if 1200 euros in Europe the USA will get it for 1200 usd — that's very consistent with electronics.

 

The problem with them doing that is that currently due to the crisis in US and everything the dollar is quite a bit weaker than the Euro, so for every 100$ you get 73,08€

 

So translated in price it's 1200.00$ or 876,94€ in the US and 1642,08$ or 1200,00€ in the EU.

 

If there was any real difference between the U and G model I might understand it, but as far as I can see they are pretty much the same besides maybe a few more languages in the G model, so it's hard not to feel cheated.

 

If it turns out you cna use the U model on 230v then it might be quite a lot cheaper to buy that one and get it shipped to EU.

 

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I spoke with someone at B&H and they said not to put ANY credence in the 7-14 day delivery. That's obvious given the thing hasn't been released yet. Also if you read the fine print B&H gives NO refunds or cancellations for special orders. So you could be parted from your money for a very long time depending on when if ever it's released.
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In that case might as well wait until next year and see what other 1080P LED projectors that come out, if any.
I can wait I have my 720P projector that is good enough for the time being.
I decided to spend my money that I have already saved up on other priories like going and get a nice steak dinner that I have not had in a while.
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I'm wondering when other projector manufacturers will get in the reasonably priced LED game. I thought the PA70G would spur some real competitors, but strangely it's just LG going along with this odd, quasi-portable business slant with a no zoom lens and as small as possible form factor which has some pretty serious drawbacks for fixed home theater usage.


I guess I'll sit around and wait until the next round of projectors comes out and see where things stand if the PF80G ends up retailing anywhere near its MSRP. Although the idea of usable 3D really does have me interested as of late.
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I stumbled across a site that had tons of 1080P LED projectors all available in Asia and none in the US. There's probably a concerted effort to keep them minimally present in the US. If everything moved to bulb-less projectors lots of ancillary revenue would be lost, and everyone would have to overhaul their technology.

Those of us that already have LED projectors aren't anxious to go back to bulbs - and I'm sure there are efforts behind the scenes to nip that in the bud.

Honestly with a good video processing BR player like the Oppo 103D, I'm getting a shockingly good picture from the LG PA70G. Even the focus/sharpness unevenness isn't an issue any more. Amazing what can be fixed with good video processing.

If I could get the PA70G with nothing more than1080P native res - I could be satisfied enough to take a pass on the Sony VPLVW55es for three times the money. Not that the LG would be as good, but it WOULD be good enough. Since it's hitting Europe in a few weeks, we'll see what happens here by mid November.
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It is tempting to just grab a 63 or 75 and just wait out the 1080p models, but it feels like they are so close, and I really don't want to go back to 720p

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Does this have any type of zoom and does this actually have a claimed 30,000hr life in high brightness? did I read that right? How would this compare to the Acer k750 that I currently have which roughly has the same specs except the better life and might be brighter too? US Release?
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It doesn't have zoom, and it should last 30k hours, but noone has testet it yet so hard to tell if it's wrong.

As for comparison, as it's only now starting to be sold, and not many have had the chance to test it yet.

There is a few reviews of the PF80, but as far as I know there isn't any comparative tests done with it yet.

 

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No Zoom? Bummer:( Do you know if this has better optics then the Acer and Viewsonic?
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The life claims are assuming everything works all the way to 30k hours - you're probably more likely to suffer a problem in some other component than the LED light source when talking about 30k hrs. That said, it essentially removes "bulb replacement" as a normal maintenance item (the LED light source can still have a catastrophic failure which likely makes the projector a paperweight). So I wouldn't put any weight on the claims of light source lifespan personally.


As for optics, from the few pictures taken of it in action so far, it still has quite a bit of CA, so I'd lean towards optics still being low budget. Their small size just hurts them that much more when they're not of the highest quality.



I occasionally want more resolution from my PA70G, but I think I notice the CA and resultant slight blurriness on high contrast areas than I notice the resolution most times. But it's hard to put a number on CA that people understand vs. resolution, and people commonly buy off spec sheet numbers, so that's where manufacturers spend the product development/production budget.
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I don't think that it will be a big upgrade to a K750. Calibrated the K750 has about 600 Lumens in bright mode, very good shadow details and black level and it has a zoom lens.  For the calibrated PF80G Cine4home measured 540 Lumens and only a mediocre black level. Only drawbacks i see in the K750 and points where the PF80G perhaps can excel are the fan noise, the sharpness(nut doesn't look like on the pictures) and that it hopefully not looses its user settings when turned off for longer time, like it happens with the K750*.

 

We will see. Hope we get a side by side comparison by Kraine once the LG hits the market.

 

 

 

*The only reason why i not bought an Acer K750

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Does anyone know if the Optoma HD91 will have better brightness at 110"-120" compared to the Acer k750?
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My pf80g is coming tomorrow
First VS hw300y videos on sunday wink.gif
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My pf80g is coming tomorrow
First VS hw300y videos on sunday wink.gif

Wait,..
Where?
Price?
Sunday? Omg, two days waiting...tic tac, tic tac
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Does anyone know if the Optoma HD91 will have better brightness at 110"-120" compared to the Acer k750?

 

 

There is only one test from Asia for the HD91. It measured about 550 Lumens for the Optoma (calibrated). So the Acer K750, Viewsonic Pro9000, LG PF80G and Optoma HD91 are all at about the same level of brightness(540-600 Lumens). That's equal to19 FL on a Gain 1 screen with 100" diagonal or ~16 FL on a 110" screen. That's more than sufficient for a darkened room.

 

There are not many projectors with Laser-, Hybrid- or LED technology that are brighter.

 

The LG Hecto has calibrated about 2000 Lumens on its Black Screen (included)

The calibrated Sony VPL-FHZ55 ~1000 Lumens in Eco mode, it's noisy and only has a contrast of ~1400:1

 

 

Or take a look at projectors made for presentations. They are 1280x800 projectors.

 

The LG SA560, 2500 Lumens, Ultra short throw, no zoom. Laser

Casio Hybrid Projectors, 2500-4000 Lumens, 1,5 -2x Zoom. A bit noisy and lots of RBE. Laser/Red-LED

 

Saw both the LG and a Casio in action. Blacks, contrasts and colours aren't too bad, but the projectors were not calibrated and we have a dark grey screen in our office, so it's hard to say anything about their suitability for home cinema use.

 

 

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Yes, yes, yes! Sunday, omg, two long days...

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From notebooksbilliger.de (germany)

But i have ordered the last one ^^

Price 1349 €
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In Stock @ beamershop24.net

But they only deliever to germany
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I've sent a request to Beamershop. They ship worldwide on request, but you have contact them per E-Mail before to ask for the conditions. But i think now as the first units arrived the other european shops will get them in the next days, too.

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In Spain is proyector 24 and have in stock all is the same store (in Germany )but the price right now is 1750€
this must be change in the next weeks that is not normal

The good news are is already here and will see soon how really is this projector .


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In Spain is proyector 24 and have in stock all is the same store (in Germany )but the price right now is 1750€
this must be change in the next weeks that is not normal

The good news are is already here and will see soon how really is this projector .


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Jasinto, you know...Spain is different frown.gif

If in germany can buy for "only" 1349€, this might be the recommended price on Europe.
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Finally here wink.gif
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