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Good thing I waited before I bought a new projector because I knew that new projector announcements would be coming out now--a-days. And out they did! The new Epson projector means that the 5020 will be available for under $2K before long. Sweet smile.gif
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Not sure what you are so excited about wink.gif Looks like the 5020UB is around 2.5k. With so many good under 1k projectors from BenQ, Optoma and Acer, it seems like Epson has a very tough competition. Here's the 2D & 3D Full HD 1080p projector lineup they seem to have on their web:

Home Cinema 2000
MSRP: $899.00

Home Cinema 2030
MSRP: $999.00

Home Cinema 3020
MSRP: $1,599.00

Home Cinema 3020e
MSRP: $1,899.00

Home Cinema 5020UB
MSRP: $2,599.99

Home Cinema 5020UBe
MSRP: $2,899.99

Home Cinema 5030UB
MSRP: ?

Home Cinema 5030UBe
MSRP: ?
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Not sure what you are so excited about wink.gif
Last year when 5020 was introduced, within a couple of months after that I was able to negotiate the price of a brand new 5010 to $1799. I am pretty sure same story would repeat with 5020's. You are right, all those are good projectors from Benq and Optoma, etc. But everyone sings such high praises of 5020 that its gotta be exciting that its price is going to fall by several hundred dollars within a few months now.... smile.gif
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Let me share something I learned over my years of being a member here and having a projector.... there will always be "something new" and "a better value" around the corner.... My advise is buy something and then avoid this place or at least this forum section until you are willing to entertain the the idea of being entised by the next "better" value than comes out on a monthly basis...I just ordered an optoma hd131xe last night even though my hd 66 still works perfectly fine... Why? couldnt resist the temptation and feeling of being awed by the improvements of 1080p and better contrast... If I would have just stayed away from this place Id be $800 richer and none the wiser...rolleyes.gif
also pick your budget range and stay there.... One of the funny things I find is todays sub $1000 projectors are usually better performers in many ways than many of yesterdays <$ 3000 setups... So whether you stay with the budget line and upgrade often or go with something high end and keep it three times as long your still pretty much in the same boat in the long run IMHO.
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.... there will always be "something new" and "a better value" around the corner....

I fully agree. Being in the tech field my self, I often find myself giving out the advice that if you wait, you'll end up waiting forever. It's just that in this case, I didn't have to wait much (was just getting serious to buy an upgrade) and the timing just worked out perfectly so I got a little excited.... smile.gif
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Not sure if there is a thread comparing 5020 worth optoma HD131Xe, HD25e or BenQ w1070. But is there a specific reason that you are interested in Epson 5020? I myself am coming from Epson, but do not find anything better than competition in their new line of projectors especially in terms of things that matter most to me - light output, price, focus, noise level and overall picture.

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Last year when 5020 was introduced, within a couple of months after that I was able to negotiate the price of a brand new 5010 to $1799. I am pretty sure same story would repeat with 5020's. You are right, all those are good projectors from Benq and Optoma, etc. But everyone sings such high praises of 5020 that its gotta be exciting that its price is going to fall by several hundred dollars within a few months now.... smile.gif
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I have learned to stay a year or two behind cutting edge. Saves a bunch of money and works every bit as good. tongue.gif

Saved me a grand on an 8700UB for the same image I would have paid full retail.

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..is there a specific reason that you are interested in Epson 5020?
Some members here whose opinion I have come to respect mention 5010 as one of the best buys. Since 5020 is an improved version of 5010, I figured that at the same price point that 5010 is at the moment, it would be a pretty sweet deal. I do, however, agree that there are lot of very good projectors out there which are probably cheaper too.
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Quoting rts:

 

Home Cinema 2000
MSRP: $899.00

 

Home Cinema 2030
MSRP: $999.00

 

Home Cinema 3020
MSRP: $1,599.00

 

Home Cinema 3020e
MSRP: $1,899.00

 

Pro Cinema 4030

MSRP: $2499 (Projector Central)

 

Home Cinema 5020UB
MSRP: $2,599.99

 

Home Cinema 5020UBe
MSRP: $2,899.99

 

Home Cinema 5030UB
MSRP: $2699*

 

Home Cinema 5030UBe
MSRP: $2999*

 

Pro Cinema G4885WU

MSRP: $3799*

 

Pro Cinema G6550WU

MSRP: $5999*

 

Pro Cinema 6330UB

MSRP less than $4000

 

Pro Cinema G6900WU

MSRP: $7499*

 

Flushing it out a bit more, I added prices (*)  that I found at Projector Reviews (*) and the one from PJ Central (4030).

 

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Hmm wonder how much better this new 5030 is going to be in use.. Glad I waited had been looking hard at the 5020. Looking to replace my HD20 soon.

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If the 4030 stays at the estimated $2499 (press release), then that seems to be to be a good value (depending on the quality, of course).

 

$2499 - that includes ($200 of 3D glasses, a $300?? lamp, and an extra year of warranty + a ceiling mount, $80). I have been waffling on whether to buy a 5010 refurbished ($1549) + glasses + mount brings it to $1850.  Now.. 4030??  Or, will the 5020's drop a lot?  Anyone here work for Epson sales and marketing that can speak up?  That would be great.

 

 

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I have learned to stay a year or two behind cutting edge. Saves a bunch of money and works every bit as good. tongue.gif
About 3-4 years ago, it seems projectors have hit their peak in technological improvements with 1080p.
The last couple of years have given us 3D, faster refresh/frame rate and contrast. Nothing really dramatic.
This keeps upgrade fever" to a minimum. Just need to stay away from the CES threads for new projector annoucements.

I'm hoping 4K projectors come down to the $2-3K price point in a couple years so I'm not tempted to upgrade. smile.gif

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The last couple of years have given us 3D, faster refresh/frame rate and contrast. Nothing really dramatic.
It would seem that the BenQ W1070 (preceded by the Optima HD33) have been game-changers. Now there is a flood of sub-$1K PJs that are only a smidgeon inferior to the higher-priced spread. And any of them should be good enough to keep your powder dry until the real upgrades (inexpensive 4K PJs) make their way to market in a few years.
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Will the 4030 be available at any online retailers? I guess the big question is how much more performance will you get with the 5030 for the extra hundred dollars ($2,499 vs. $2,599) not counting the additional lamp in the 4030? What is the real world difference be between 120,000 vs. 600,000 CR?
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4030 is priced too high IMO. I think it should have come in at $1899 at most to be of real value. Why get the 4030 when a few more hundred you can get the better 5030UB?
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Fair point. To me the biggest question is whether they will finally address the input lag.
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Also, it appears both the 3030 and 5030's Fast processing will be reduced by one full frame from 3 (50ms) to 2 (34ms) in the game mode/fast processing. If true, that's a nice improvement!
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Scott Wilkinson had this to say about the Epson 6030 demo at CEDIA: "One of the most impressive demos—especially in terms of value—was Epson's new flagship PowerLite Pro Cinema 6030 ($3500). Calibrated by ISF wizard Kevin Miller in a blacked out room, the demo was presented on an 11-foot-wide, 2.35:1 Stewart StudioTek 130 using a fixed Panamorph CineVista anamorphic lens ($2000). That's right—a 2.35:1 projection system for $5500 (not including the screen). And the picture quality was superb. We watched a clip from Oz The Great and Powerful in 2D—skin tones were entirely natural, and shadow detail in Oz's black coat was excellent."

The 5030 will have the same image quality for under $3,000, which is good news for everyone interested in reasonably priced projectors.
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