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When I watch hockey on my plasma the ice is dull.

When I watch it on my samsung led the ice is so bright which I like. A lot.

I have 500 hours on my w1070 and 130 inch painted screen.

The picture just doesnt seem so bright. I wish I could get a brighter picture.

Is something like an AE8000 noticeably brighter?

Does a real screen like maybe a 1.3 gain make much difference?

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When I watch hockey on my plasma the ice is dull.

When I watch it on my samsung led the ice is so bright which I like. A lot.

I have 500 hours on my w1070 and 130 inch painted screen.

The picture just doesnt seem so bright. I wish I could get a brighter picture.

Is something like an AE8000 noticeably brighter?

Does a real screen like maybe a 1.3 gain make much difference?

Thanks

How far back is your projector from the screen?
Do you have ambient light in the room? Does your room have dark walls, ceiling, and floor.
Are you running the projector in ECO mode?
Have you calibrated the projector to ensure you are getting accurate color?
Do you have brilliant color enabled?
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What paint did you use for the screen? What substrate material? If it's the actual wall, I assume you mudded and sanded it flat via multiple steps to get a really flat surface?

Something like a 1.2-1.3 gain screen does offer some pop over an impromptu test I did where I put some semi-gloss white on a board and compared.
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projector is about 12 feet back.

I can make the room completely dark.

The projector is not in eco mode.

I have not calibrated the projector but I assume if I do the picture will only be darker.

I have brilliant color enabled but it almsot makes no difference off or on. Just slightly brighter on.

I used sheetrock and had the wall skimcoated.

I used a paint mix from another board called cream&sugar.

Just disappointing with the brightness. seems just middle of the road. Not bright at all really.
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Also the ceiling is black, the projection wall is black, side walls are very dark blue and red flat paint.

Floor is oak color. Pergo.
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You missed one of the most important questions. what color are your ceiling, walls and floor. If they are white then reflected light from the screen will light up a completely dark room washing out the image.

Smart enough to know better, to old to care
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Sorry I responded right after that. But again the black ceiling and dark walls. Wood floor.
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After calibrating with HCFR i have a max 45 fl which i almost need sunglasses with a da-lite 2.8 screen. After more calibration i am still at 20 fl with my contrast down to 35 all at a flat D6500.

If you need brighter you need to go with a projector with at least 5000 lumens!eek.gif
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Well isnt 2.8 overkill for my room?
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Keep in mind that most modern LCDs will do something ridiculous like 50-80 ft-L, or even higher on torch mode. You're probably never going to get that sort of light output out of a reasonably priced HT projector at 130", and it'd probably hurt your eyes watching it in a dark room anyway.


But if you're talking about the color temperature of the image, and whites being a bit too warm, you can calibrate that out. Tweak out a bit of red, add a hair of blue, and usually increasing the contrast and brightness a touch will make the picture cooler. Some people naturally like things more around the 6800-7000K range, as it does make whites look very "crisp white-blue." 6500K is the standard setting, so most people strive for that, but if you like things a hair cooler, go for it.
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Do the really high gain "High Power" screens have that annoying sparkle effect on bright scenes? A local theater has excessive curved, high gain screens with glass beads in them. The geometry is like a pin-cushion (no one I point it out to can tell even when I show them specifically what's going on... it's like 2-3' difference in height on the outside vs. the inside of the image... bleh), and on bright scenes it's like looking at a disco ball with some glass beads catching the light really well, and others not.

Not an enjoyable viewing experience at all after being able to be picky about my home theater. You start to notice all the things that 99% of the public completely misses.
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I have had the hi-power da-lite since 2004 with several different projectors ( crt, lcd ,locs and dlp) no hot spoting or sparklies. Just a bright colorful picture. With it ceiling mounted ( projector ) the gain is not a full 2.8 but probably around 1.5 to 1.7 gain.



Check out the long tread in the screen section on the hi power da-lite .
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