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tinmanLU27 01-05-2014 08:40 AM

I'm a noobie on this forum(first post), and I am looking for a projector to set up in my basement. Price point for this will be around $2500. It is an open layout but there is no lighting in a 23' x 16' area where the equipment will be set up, with a 7'-6" drop ceiling height. Throw distance can be up to 15 feet, 110" diag. screen is max. Viewing distance will be around 11'-14'. It will be used for some gaming(PS3), sports(football, hockey, baseball), movies, and general TV viewing(comcast). The Panasonic AE8000U is what originally caught my eye but I am not dedicated to any one brand. Any help from more experienced minds would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

airscapes 01-05-2014 08:54 AM

Can not comment on projector to buy as I am a firm believer in Older High End Used projectors. HOWEVER, your room color is as important if not more so than what projector you buy. with a low ceiling like you have that is not treated with at the very least (very dark paint) the image will suffer from reflected light wash out no matter how much you spend.
Take a look here, http://www.avsforum.com/t/1509248/how-much-do-white-walls-and-ceiling-hurt-my-setup/0_100 there are also other very long threads on treating your ceiling and walls.
Welcome to the hobby!

tinmanLU27 01-05-2014 09:00 AM

The wall on which the screen will go is a dark gray. However the ceiling is white but I can paint the tiles black if need be. The floor is a dark cherry laminate. I read the thread you entered above, how far from the screen should the blacked out area be??

RPS13 01-05-2014 11:04 AM

Ideally the whole room will be a darker color, as you get reflected light from everywhere. But if you were only treating some of it, I'd say about 4-5' from the projector is going to get you most of your benefit. Light will reflect off the ceiling and walls, so it really all needs to be addressed.

tinmanLU27 01-05-2014 11:50 AM

The ceiling would be the main concern as there are no walls with 5 feet of the edge of the screen. If I were to black out the ceiling from the projector to the screen about 6' wide, would that suffice?

airscapes 01-05-2014 12:56 PM

Only if you screen is 3' wide.. the light comes off the screen and hits the ceiling and lights up the screen. 5' out from the screen wider than the screen is what you need for a minimum. Look at the pic of my ceiling down in my sig.

The part I think you are not understanding is the reflected light is the screen not the projector.. screen itself lights up the room and then that light shines on the screen an bang, you have a washed out picture. Black on your screen is caused by there being no light projected in that spot. If light hits that spot be it from a room light, window OR light bouncing off the ceiling or walls, your black will become gray or worse..

tinmanLU27 01-05-2014 01:22 PM

I see what you're saying now, thanks for the pics that helped.  Now, with my ceiling being blacked out what would my best bet be for a projector with the above attributes mentioned.


tinmanLU27 01-05-2014 03:37 PM

 

This is the wall i will be shooting to.  The picture was taken close to where the projector will go, lighting is all the way up, no flash.  I dimmed the lights all the way down and my camera wouldn't pick it up because it was too dark.  Hope this can help about the ambient light.  I would like a projector that could work in this lighting along with it 100% dark.  I will be blacking out the ceiling also.


tinmanLU27 01-07-2014 02:58 PM

I'm thinking about the mitsubishi HC7900DW or benqw7000..Any thoughts or concerns on these projectors???  I'm a rookie at this, and some information to sway me in the right direction.


RPS13 01-07-2014 03:49 PM

I'd recommend the Mitsu 7900. It uses a DarkChip3 vs. DarkChip2 of the W7000 (basically a newer generation DLP chip). Both have dynamic irises (irii?), both have high quality optics. Seems they have similar brightness, with maybe the Mitsu being slightly dimmer, but the Mitsu likely has better black levels and contrast as a result.


Both are solid projectors, but the W7000 is a bit older, and given the HC7900DW is on "close out" pricing, it's probably the better buy right now.

I'm strongly looking at the HC7900DW myself. I'm holding off for a little bit to see if anything interesting comes out in CES, but I'm not too optimistic about it in the sub $1500 range.

rekbones 01-08-2014 02:22 PM

Caution about the Mits hw7900 if you ceiling is 8' or less you will have a problem with the screen being close to the floor. It has a large 25" off set and a very minimal vertical lens shift so top of screen must be at least 17" below the lens of projector.

RPS13 01-08-2014 06:04 PM

9' ceilings, so I should be fine. I think the lens shift lets it get down to about 8-9" above the top of the screen, which is only 110", so not as huge as some of the people here. I don't think the 7900 can handle much more screen though.

tinmanLU27 01-10-2014 09:15 AM

Would the benq w7000 be a better fit for a ceiling at 90"?

tinmanLU27 01-12-2014 01:44 PM

Is there any opinions for LCD???  I've done a good amount of research to find that the Mitsu. 7900 is not going to be bright enough for what I need.  I'm stuck on the w7000 and w1070, also the w7500 when it releases.  Can anyone elaborate on the w1070 vs. w7000?



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