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I'm planning to buy my first projector. I'm a gamer. Mostly I'll be using the projector with my PS3. That is 60%. I'm also planning to watch sitcoms which is 30% and some bluray movies. Not much. 10%.

Problem starts with my room. I don't have a lot of space. It's much like a dorm. From one wall to wall it's 8ft. And the from another wall to wall it's 19.5ft. It's a rectangle. I'm trying to get a projector to get a 100 inch image on the 19.5 ft wall. So that makes the maximum projection distance to be 8ft. 7.5 ft considering the place that'll be occupied by the projector itself.

Considering the very limited space I've selected these 3 projectors. GT 760 is good but it's 720p. People say it's better to get 1080p at that distance. W1080ST is a little out of my budget. So I'm thinking of W1070 but it is not short throw like the other two right?

Can someone help me decide based on my space constraints and usage?
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Why not project onto the smaller wall? It would give you a lot more options... Epson LCD's sometimes can throw from very short distances and have a very nice image for the price, but probably do not throw short enough to matter unless you are willing to sacrifice screen size...

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You will definitely appreciate the sharper image of 1080p if you are sitting that close, you also may not need a 100" image if your head will be 7' from the screen (with a couch cushion behind you). I can appreciate a very large, immersive experience, but the W1070 with a 90" screen may be your best solution in that short of a layout.

The experts can chime in though, I am certainly not one.
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Projecting onto the smaller wall is not an option. I have a window and a cupboard on these smaller walls. W1070 option sounds good. I'm ok with a 90" image from 7ft. Can the W1070 do that? Can it project a image that big from a distance that short(7ft)? I thought it's not a short throw projector.
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Found out w1070 is a 1:1 shortish throw projector. So it's a 90" image I'll be getting with this projector. Now the question is 90" diagonal or 90" across?
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projector to get a 100 inch image on the 19.5 ft wall. So that makes the maximum projection distance to be 8ft. 7.5 ft considering the place that'll be occupied by the projector itself.
 

The w1070 is about ten inches long, so adding a couple inches for you to get cables to the back of it I believe we're looking at about a 7 foot throw, that will give you a 85" diagonal at max zoom. The image will be very bright, which is good for gaming..

 

See here: http://www.projectorcentral.com/BenQ-W1070-projection-calculator-pro.htm

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The W1070 has a throw of 1.15, which is certainly more than wide enough for most people to have an immersive experience. At 7' away, this would cast a 6' wide image, your head would be about the same distance as the projector lens so this means your final ratio would be right in line with the original 1.15. For gaming, and sit coms, this should be more than large enough, for scope films it is sufficient but not as overwhelming, as that is lowest on your priorities, I think it should be great.

By the way, the W1070 would have nearly 100fl at that distance, if you game on standard (non cinema) and use eco mode, you will wind up with about 40fl after a few hundred hours of bulb use. I would look into a grey screen for better blacks with ambient light, that is unless you plan on doing 3d.
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W1070 sounds great and all that but the image throws me off. I want to be able to zoom in and out and then settle on a sweet image size. With W1070 it's only going to be one image size I'm stuck with unless I move the projector to another room.

What about the GT760? Will it be horribly pixelated at my viewing distance? Also I'm looking at long term. I might get a PS4 when uncharted comes out. Can GT760 do justice to all the nex gen games?

If it doesn't workout I'm ready to pull the trigger on W1080ST. A big blow on my budget but ok if there is no other option.
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Looking at my available space and also the budget I have.. I've ordered a GT760 in amazon. I'm still tempted to cancel the order and change to w1070. Thoughts anyone?
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Looking at my available space and also the budget I have.. I've ordered a GT760 in amazon. I'm still tempted to cancel the order and change to w1070. Thoughts anyone?

I think the GT760 will be fine especially since you're not going to be watching many bluray movies and most ps3 games (even supposedly 1080p ones) are rendered at 720p and up-scaled to 1080, and sometimes even only 1024x600...

I personally would rather have the higher contrast of the 760 (it is rated higher at least it may not be) because I prefer not to wear my glasses while watching movies so I would not notice the clarity, but I do when I'm gaming and I would DEFINITELY prefer 1080p then (I have a PC though so my graphics are actually rendered at 1080p, but the next gen consoles will render 1080p as well), I don't game on my projector

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Thanks for the time you all took to stop and reply. W1070 is a good projector from all I've seen and heard but ultimately budget wins at the end and I think I'll not be regretting this GT 760 decision cos I'm now playing on a 20" monitor. Any upgrade will be huge for me. If there is any deal breaking stuff with this projector then I would like to know.
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Pixelation isn't much of an issue with DLP's, it just won't have the same clarity as a 1080p, I haven't priced the GT760 but if the budget is pushing you that direction, I am sure you will find a way to be happy wink.gif.
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There are no dealbreakers with Optoma GT760 whatsoever. It's a great 3D gaming projector. Sure, it's not future-proof but neither are 1080p BenQs ('cause they can't do 1080p60 frame-packing). It's a great stop until HDMI 2 projectors start selling at under $1,000 IMO.
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Let us know how it works out for you. I too am in a similar boat and am trying to decide between gt760 and w1080st. I too am leaning towards the optoma...
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Sure. I'll post pics and first impressions when I get it.
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One last question.. I ordered from Amazon US so I'm guessing it'll come with this power cable.

I'm living in India. Can I just replace the cable with this?


Or do I have to buy a step up/step down transformer or adapter?
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Yes, you can. It has a universal power supply. I use European adapter and it works fine.
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I got the projector today and it's awesome.

I put the projector 6 feet away from the wall and it gives me a huge image. I wanted to measure it from end to end but I was too impressed to find time to do that.

I'll leave my first impressions here so that it'll be helpful for someone in the future.

Noise level : I couldn't hear a thing.

Heat: Not too much. Guess this is normal for all projectors. Gives out a little more heat than my PC.

Throw: Ultimate short throw. Not recommended if you have a really small room. This things throws a huge image at such a short distance. Again blessing for some people.

Image: Good Black levels but not impressive. Good for the price. Since I'm sitting 7ft from a 100" image I'm seeing pixels. People who can sit farther will appreciate the picture.

Brightness: Really really bright. I'm scared I'll go blind if I keep watching this. Go easy on brightness. Go Eco mode.

Sound: Can hardly hear anything with the built in speakers. Not recommended. Get a 2.1 speakers at least. It has a 3.5mm audio out.

Lag: Absolutely zero. Coming from a Gamer. So trust me on this.

Problems faced: When watching a movie from my PS3 which was streaming from my PC through PS3 media server.. The projector menu stopped responding and became really really slow. It took 3 minutes to go from volume 3 to 4. I turned off the projector through remote. It DID NOT TURN OFF. DISPLAY TURNED OFF BUT LIGHT WAS STILL GREEN FOR 15 MINS. I unplugged and turned it back on after sometime. It worked fine after that.

Also I felt some strain in my eyes after watching for an hour but I got used to it. Guess you just have to get used to big screen. It's awesome.

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Now question time..

1. Can someone tell me the image calibration settings to get the best possible picture. In really bad at calibrating stuff I can't decide in most settings.

2. I'm streaming content from my PC to PS3 with PS3 media server. PS3 is connected to projector with HDMI cable. Now how do I enable 120hz in projector? It's always running at 60hz.
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Now question time..

1. Can someone tell me the image calibration settings to get the best possible picture. In really bad at calibrating stuff I can't decide in most settings.

2. I'm streaming content from my PC to PS3 with PS3 media server. PS3 is connected to projector with HDMI cable. Now how do I enable 120hz in projector? It's always running at 60hz.

 

1: Your room and projection surface and the projector itself are all different from other people's so copying the settings of others is not really a good idea. If you lack equipment to calibrate just do what looks best to you, even though this may doom you to a life of constantly adjusting things...

 

2.  IIRC The PS3 will not output at 120hz (which would be pointless anyway as games rarely even run at a solid 60fps on the ps3, 60hz is enough). You change the refresh rate at the source not the projector so you could do 120hz if you had it hooked directly to the PC and changed the output on the PC to 120hz.

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I got the projector today and it's awesome.
Noise level : I couldn't hear a thing.
You must be living near a construction site. biggrin.gif To say it's silent would be untrue. The noise is there but it's not a deal-breaker. As soon as a movie or a game starts you stop thinking about it.
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1. Can someone tell me the image calibration settings to get the best possible picture. In really bad at calibrating stuff I can't decide in most settings.
I can only recommend setting Brilliant Color to 1, going to user mode and setting everything to 0 (all colors) because by default you have some weird settings. You may also try my settings for White but as previous poster said each unit is individual (Red -5, Green -11, Blue 0). Color temperature - Warm, Gamma - 2.2.

Also, don't use Eco+, use Dynamic instead. It also modulates lamp to produce better blacks but lacks weird artifacts that are present in Eco+ mode (like solarization and posterization).
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That's it. Posterization and solarization. I had these two effects yesterday. I didn't know the names and it was hard to explain as well. Now I know Eco+ is the culprit. I tried dynamic but it reduces brightness suddenly when bright scene changes to dark scene. That becomes annoying after sometime.

Also, I seeing screen door effect when I play 1080p videos. It's not visible in normal below hd content. Is there a setting for hd content?
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Screen door effect is irrelevant of input resolution. Optoma GT760 is a native 720p (actually, 1280x800) projector and it's going to interpolate any resolution above or below. There's only one cure from SDE, afaik - to sit further. smile.gif
Brightness pumping is a trade-off for deeper blacks and better contrast. Eco+ suffers from it more, I think. I always use Dynamic on this projector.
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Hi, I have two questions about the optoma gt760. 1. Which would you choose between this and the Acer 6510bd? 2. Why do some of the pictures from James bond: casino royale on www.projectorreviews.com (under image quality: flesh tones) in the review look just as detailed on the optoma as it does on the Acer? 3. Does the digital zoom in the menu of the optoma give you a more dense orr detailed image if you shrink the screen?
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Hi, I have 3 questions about the optoma gt760. 1. Which would you choose between this and the Acer 6510bd? 2. Why do some of the pictures from James bond: casino royale on "projectorreviews" website (under image quality: flesh tones) in the review look just as detailed on the optoma as it does on the Acer even though its lower resolution? (Please compare) 3. Does the digital zoom in the menu of the optoma give you a more dense or detailed image if you use it to shrink the screen?
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Double post. Also, weren't your questions in the other topic addressed already?
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2. Why do some of the pictures from James bond: casino royale on "projectorreviews" website (under image quality: flesh tones) in the review look just as detailed on the optoma as it does on the Acer even though its lower resolution?
Because they are just screenshots. You can't compare projectors by screenshots. Please, go and see those projectors yourself.
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