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Hi,

Any info about the new Benq GP20 http://www.projectorcentral.com/BenQ-GP20.htm ?
There is apparently an issue with the audio out (no bass) on the GP10, i wonder if this has been fixed on the 20 ?
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I am also looking for review of this benq Projector.

I have confirmed with benq support that this model opposite to benq gp 10 has got option of invert picture for wall mount. I know it doesn't help with audio but just a tip:)

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Here is some pictures to compare "out of the box" the Benq GP20 and the Optoma ML750

A part the fact the Optoma is very small, and it supports on USB stick a few container (mp4, avi, mkv) + handles .doc and .pdf, the picture was always darker, red, and not sharp (on the device i had, so it could be a defective one), the bright mode is useless, noisy fan, green color, and no brightness improvement.
not possible to adjust the picture on the fly, need to exit from the movie and go into the settings, where we find only brightness, contrast, and in some mode, white level.

The Benq has a very acceptable image out of the box, even on standard mode, sharp and bright.
About fans, i would estimate the noise level to be the same as the Optoma, lower in freq thus less disturbing.
I used the GP20 on a basic 150cm tripod VP screen for 3 movies in family, was perfect, just the volume of the internal speakers were just enough, but nothing to compare with the tweeter in the ML750, which will does the job anyway for some rare use. I had some issues with the format of the video with the Optoma, couldn't get good aspect...

This new BenQ doesn't support on USB stick some format, like mkv, and even .pdf and .doc despite the embodied document reader. It also had some issue on .avi format, like pixellisation followed by a complete stall, before to jump to the next movie.

There are 2 feet adjustable under the GP20, only 1 on the ML750.

I wanted a bright 720p LED VP, to carry around some different rooms and capable to play some compressed movies on a stick, the BenQ is close to my requirements, but needs a firmware update to solve the big issues when reading from USB.

I will keep it a few more days, as i sent an email to the BenQ technical service.


























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By the way, i checked the audio out, no prob so far on a 2.1 25w speakers, not that powerful signal but raising volume up will do the job.
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Can you please confirm that gp 20 has option in menu to invert picture for wall mount?

Rgards and tnx for review.
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Contrast ratio says 100000 to 1. Is this for real in your opinion. Also have you had any other projectors besides the 750 in the past to compare it to?
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Can you please confirm that gp 20 has option in menu to invert picture for wall mount?

Rgards and tnx for review.

It does, front/rear table front/rear ceiling.




About contrast, no idea, these are my first 2 PJs, I have no background.

I receive an answer from technical service, they will not release any firmware update for mkv and mp4, as these format are not supported, but i just tried a couple of mp4 without any issue. i think it depends more of the encoding method than the container.
Some pdf didn't work at the first attempt, now displaying good, this projector suffers of lags in the menu, freeze in some document viewing application, and needs a reboot to work again.
Don't expect to use this device as a professional use with some presentation, or you will lose some points in front of your audience smile.gif))
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Tnx again for detail an useful info.

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Hello, thanx for great review. Sorry for my bad English. I`m going to buy a Benq gp just not sure which one 10 or 20.

Can you give me some more information about BENQ GP20:

1. Have you tried to use a PJ on bigger diagonals? On wall? Like 130" or 140"? Is picture still sharp and bright on every corner of screen?

2. Have you ever seen screen played on 500 lumens LED PJ. I just wondered is there a big difference between 500 and 700 lumens? Is it 40 % of difference in bright? More? Less? Is it worth giving additional money for GP20 in comparison to GP10(550lumens)?(for me it is quite lots of money and I`m not sure)

 

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I cannot tell you about the GP10, i only tried the 700 lumens, but it was more than enough in standard mode all the time (not full power so not that far from the GP10 full power in my opinion) in a dark room, on a dedicated screen projector of 1m50 base, as my walls are salmon.
I would give a try with the GP10 then if it's not really bright enough, send it back for the GP20...

I remember the focus was not perfect, blur in some corners, but only noticed with the the grid pattern to adjust the throw, or with displaying Windows...This should be fixed by ether send the PJ back to BENQ or replacement from the shop.

I finally bought an Optoma HD131Xe because on-bodied support of MKV/AVI/MP4 on the BENQ is crap, and I need often to resync downloaded eng. subtitles (thanks to my non native English :-) ) so for a bit more, (700 eur), I have a real 3D full hd 2500 lumens projector...
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If the GP10 does everything you need for a picture you like and the only reason you are considering the GP20 is for a possible brightness advantage, stick with the GP10. Aside from a 500-700lm difference not being much, keep in mind that both the GP10 and GP20 are using the same light-engine and will likely BOTH be putting out around 450 color-correct lumens. It looks like the 20 has the LED version of brilliantcolor, judging by the pictures..that might be where they are getting the supposed extra lumens, but most of it is just boosting white and leaving colors in the dust. They also can boost the brightness of the green LED to get much higher maximum brightness readings with a fairly unwatchable picture. Count on 450lumens.

That all said, if the GP10 has faults like bad focusing, bad video decoding, or missing options that are important to you, and the GP20 fixes these faults..it's worth more money.

Also, the LG pa75 and 70? use many of the same parts, have very good video codec support, never freezes, has more options including some that make it easier for viewing with ambient light, and likely cost a lot less.

Simple <$250 dedicated black-fabric theater room, build in a day, takedown in an hour.
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Thanks guys for yours opinions they are very helpfull. In case you were in Lublin (Poland) I`m obliged a beer:cool:. Honestly.

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Hello! Tell me where to get the firmware from Benq gp20?

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Id like to get my hands on some new fw for the gp20 as well. I can also confirm focus problems on the right upper corner ( pj mounted front ceiling)
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Thanks for the awesome review on booth projectors.

I am going to upgrade my PJ and my choices are PA77U & BenQ GP20. I don't need the smart features on PA77U since I have already an android box & WD Tv live. Maybe GP20 is ideal for my needs, but . I came from a 240 lumens SVGA led projector so 700 lumens with wxga resolution maybe a jump up for me. I want a fairly bright and good color image for my controlled environment mini-theater. Your suggestion is highly appreciated, thank you!



"GP20 had a negative feedback from Amazon user".............Now he changed his 1star to 5 star positive feedback of course, and really convinced me to choose the BenQ GP20 over LG PA77u.

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Depending on your region, the LG projectors are cheaper and as good or superior in just about every aspect. If the Benq is available significantly cheaper, then it's worth consideration. But for its general price you can almost get a full 1080p LED model from LG.

Compare prices in your area between the gp20 and the pa75/77/1000 or pf80/85/87's.

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Compare prices in your area between the gp20 and the pa75/77/1000 or pf80/85/87's.
Well, actaully gp20 is usd171 cheaper than pa77u in my area. My only worry is that, I can only find 1review on gp20 (negative review). Whereas the pa77u had nine (9)possitives reviews on amazon.

I've already knew how good the reviews on w1070, but I wanted led projector with fairly bright enough for my 92" 16:9 aspect ratio projector screen.
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Well, actaully gp20 is usd171 cheaper than pa77u in my area. My only worry is that, I can only find 1review on gp20 (negative review). Whereas the pa77u had nine (9)possitives reviews on amazon.

I've already knew how good the reviews on w1070, but I wanted led projector with fairly bright enough for my 92" 16:9 aspect ratio projector screen.
A fresh video from youtube comparing Benq GP20 LED projector 100" vs. LG 42"LS5600 Full HD TV........

http://youtu.be/FSjIpK5z1ac
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Anyone have any new images or vids on this PJ? I'm pretty close to pulling the trigger on one for my budget theater.
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If the GP10 does everything you need for a picture you like and the only reason you are considering the GP20 is for a possible brightness advantage, stick with the GP10. Aside from a 500-700lm difference not being much, keep in mind that both the GP10 and GP20 are using the same light-engine and will likely BOTH be putting out around 450 color-correct lumens. It looks like the 20 has the LED version of brilliantcolor, judging by the pictures..that might be where they are getting the supposed extra lumens, but most of it is just boosting white and leaving colors in the dust. They also can boost the brightness of the green LED to get much higher maximum brightness readings with a fairly unwatchable picture. Count on 450lumens.

That all said, if the GP10 has faults like bad focusing, bad video decoding, or missing options that are important to you, and the GP20 fixes these faults..it's worth more money.

Also, the LG pa75 and 70? use many of the same parts, have very good video codec support, never freezes, has more options including some that make it easier for viewing with ambient light, and likely cost a lot less.
How is the BenQ performing for you lately? I'm still hesitant to purchase, but amazon has them for 499 right now.
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How is the BenQ performing for you lately? I'm still hesitant to purchase, but amazon has them for 499 right now.
The only projectors I've kept for longer than a month are the LG pa75u, the Aaxa p300, and an old Barco data808 crt. All have been performing well so far (though the CRT only gets played with on a limited basis).

Which of the Benq's is 499 right now?

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Which of the Benq's is 499 right now?

It's the BenQ GP20 is usd499 right now, on Amazon.com. Only one negative review out of seven certified Amazon buyer, which made me think to pull a trigger with this projector.

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Anyone have any new images or vids on this PJ? I'm pretty close to pulling the trigger on one for my budget theater.

I've found one.......BenQ GP20 vs Epson Ex 7220......


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It's the BenQ GP20 is usd499 right now, on Amazon.com
Sounds like it finally got priced where it belongs. See how that price compares to the Optoma ml550, the LG pa75 or 77, and the Aaxa 450-600lumen options.

If anyone can comment on how loud the Benq is, that'd be super helpful. The LG and Aaxa are nicer units in some ways if you want it portable but the gp20 should be totally fine for most things and 499 is about as cheap as these get..usually a couple models will be 449, and one 419, but that's not a huge difference.

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Sounds like it finally got priced where it belongs. See how that price compares to the Optoma ml550, the LG pa75 or 77, and the Aaxa 450-600lumen options.

If anyone can comment on how loud the Benq is, that'd be super helpful. The LG and Aaxa are nicer units in some ways if you want it portable but the gp20 should be totally fine for most things and 499 is about as cheap as these get..usually a couple models will be 449, and one 419, but that's not a huge difference.


For the price its fair enough, but I am also for the video quality. I saw a video comparison between GP20 & ML750 here on this thread, of course I'm for the GP20. I've already read enough about PA75/77U & Aaxa latest projectors on how they perform well in some other ways.

I don't get what you mean "If anyone can comment on how loud the Benq is"? Is it for the built-in speaker? or how loud is fan noise? Sorry please be specific.
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For the price its fair enough, but I am also for the video quality. I saw a video comparison between GP20 & ML750 here on this thread, of course I'm for the GP20. I've already read enough about PA75/77U & Aaxa latest projectors on how they perform well in some other ways.

I don't get what you mean "If anyone can comment on how loud the Benq is"? Is it for the built-in speaker? or how loud is fan noise? Sorry please be specific.
Picture comparison should be take with a grain of salt, video comparison doubly so, but the gp20 should give solid performance.

Most projectors feature terrible built-in sound..I'm curious how loud its fan-noise is though. Many can be fairly loud, but quite a few of the LG models are impressively quiet. Most larger projectors tend to be quieter when running. Bigger, slower fans and more space to vent through. The gp20 looks large enough that it could potentially be on the quiet side which is always nice.

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Picture comparison should be take with a grain of salt, video comparison doubly so, but the gp20 should give solid performance.

Most projectors feature terrible built-in sound..I'm curious how loud its fan-noise is though. Many can be fairly loud, but quite a few of the LG models are impressively quiet. Most larger projectors tend to be quieter when running. Bigger, slower fans and more space to vent through. The gp20 looks large enough that it could potentially be on the quiet side which is always nice.
I'm thinking the quality combined with the lower price fits the bill for me. Not sure which DIY screen paint to go with for it. I know there are tons of threads on paint mixes, but they usually are paired with higher quality or lumen PJ's. It would be nice to see one for a PJ like this. The guy in the vid uses digitalcrystal paint, which is over $200 a gallon, a mute point for a $499 PJ IMO. Even though $699 for decent quality and long bulb life still isn't bad.

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I'm thinking the quality combined with the lower price fits the bill for me. Not sure which DIY screen paint to go with for it. I know there are tons of threads on paint mixes, but they usually are paired with higher quality or lumen PJ's. It would be nice to see one for a PJ like this. The guy in the vid uses digitalcrystal paint, which is over $200 a gallon, a mute point for a $499 PJ IMO. Even though $699 for decent quality and long bulb life still isn't bad.
The screen will depend on the room's amount of light during use and how much control you have over where that room-light ends up as well as the size of screen you'd like to use..you probably already mentioned most of this, but I'm often slow.

Funny you mention the digital crystal dark paint and that sort of thing in general paired with lower lumen and LED projectors. At the bottom of my posts, the signature/link of a cheap darkscreen paint, check it out. All pictures are using low lumen LEDs so far..the last screen is 110".

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The screen will depend on the room's amount of light during use and how much control you have over where that room-light ends up as well as the size of screen you'd like to use..you probably already mentioned most of this, but I'm often slow.

Funny you mention the digital crystal dark paint and that sort of thing in general paired with lower lumen and LED projectors. At the bottom of my posts, the signature/link of a cheap darkscreen paint, check it out. All pictures are using low lumen LEDs so far..the last screen is 110".
Nice! So what is that mix composition on post 71 and 72 of your thread? I'd be very interested in that. My room:

Walls : Dark Grey
Ceiling and Screen wall: Black

Light: completely controlled, have recessed lighting towards the back of the theater just beyond the seating area (11 ft away from screen). There is a dome light in the room, but it is only used when cleaning or doing non-serious viewing) I'm hoping to do no larger than a 106 screen, given my seating distance and preference. That being said with and LED PJ listed at 700 lumens (not sure of what I actually see), what would be your suggestion? Your mix?
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