Sorry for taking so long to respond, I had to wait for a long time before the xpand rf emitter arrived. Using SSG-3570CR glasses. Connected emitter with lan cable, mounted the emitter on top front projector and paired all 3 glasses in under a minute. 3D performance is really good, but dont't have much to compare to. Glasses are open which means they will catch reflections from the back wall if you sit close to it and dont have it painted dark. Glasses are Very comfortable, light, easy to use and charge in less than a minute if you only need a few hours viewing. Have to say I'm pleased although the 3D still has some minor flicker in bright scenes. Might have to do with white side walls and ceiling and reflections. Not sure. Will get some velvet for front 2 meters of ceiling soon, hope that will help.
All in all I'm happy, and usually use bright cinema to alleviate some of the image brightness loss when using 3d with glasses. Guess that is high lamp mode?
I have an 8 foot ceiling. My 134" screen will be within a couple inches from the ceiling. Will it be ok if the 40ES is ceiling mounted at that height or slightly below? The height of the projector will probably take it lower than the top of the screen by maybe two or three inches.
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I have an 8 foot ceiling. My 134" screen will be within a couple inches from the ceiling. Will it be ok if the 40ES is ceiling mounted at that height or slightly below? The height of the projector will probably take it lower than the top of the screen by maybe two or three inches.
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Absolutely. You have a ton of lens shift on this Sony with which to achieve this; that mounting height will be no problem at all.
While you're at it, also use the projector calculator at ProjectorCentral to work out how far away you need to mount from the screen to get a 134" diagonal image.
What is everyone using for mounting the 40ES - flush mount, or using an extension?
I have a 9' ceiling, and I plan on mounting a 135" 16:9 screen about 8" from the ceiling. Projector is at a distance of 16' 4" from the screen (number given by the calculator on projector central).
I'm just trying to figure out the height, and since this is my first projector, I'm looking for advice.
Being only 8" from the ceiling with the screen, you'll have plenty of lens shift to go with a flush mount.
My screen is about 19" from the ceiling, and I'm using a 3-inch extension pipe. But I did that partly because that's how I wanted to mount it, not because it was strictly necessary. (I'm using a joist mount with a pipe receiver to a 3" pipe to a Chief mount, which allows the holes in the ceiling to go directly into a joist)
Is there anything to gain by using less lens shift? My first projector, and I really have the flexibility to go either way since my room would allow for both. That being said, I'm just wondering if one method would be better than the other. I have backing up between the joists, so I don't really have to worry about hitting a joist itself.
To people who want to buy this projector for $1999,datavis ( Sony authorized dealer) has it on sale currently.You just type Sony vplhw40es on the search box and it will show the unit.They have $20 coupon if you pay through paypal.I used amazon payment so i paid $1998
I called ABT and Crutchfield to price match but they could not do it so I finally had to buy it from datavis .I hope they won't cancel my order.
Which is bad news and good news. The bad news is: time to spend some bucks. The good news is that I get to upgrade! My room is moderately light controlled but not fully enclosed from the rest of the house. Nighttime viewing is great. Daytime viewing is pretty good, but the Epson was mounted 19' back from a 106" screen so I was pushing it on brightness. So any upgrade would be a noticeable benefit.
Anyway, to make a long story short, I ended up pulling the trigger yesterday on the Epson 5030UB, but took a very hard look at this Sony first. The Epson was Wirecutter's top pick last year, but Sony has edged them out. HOWEVER, I realized late in the selection process that the Sony does not have the same zoom or shift range, and it could not project onto my sized screen from the shelf in the back of my room. So I had two choices: Mount the Sony off the ceiling with a 21" extension pole (because my screen is a ways down from the ceiling); or get the new Epson which would do fine in the old location.
I decided after lots of thinking that I didn't want to be so constrained in install location. So I got the Epson. The truth is that I was thinking of moving to a ceiling mount much closer to the screen anyway, because I'd like to use my Xbox One Kinect in the room without people blocking the image, but with the Epson I could mount closer to the ceiling (shorter pole) since it has much better vertical shift. This would be much less intrusive visually than a 21" pole.
Still, part of me really wanted the Sony. It looks great. I like the faster response time. And now this sale... Oh well, I'm sure the Epson will make me very happy. It's a huge step up from the old 1080.
Funny, I was doing some research on this projector and found this site and thread regarding the projector. I hope I am not hijacking, but I have a question concerning my setup with this projector.
This projector will be mounted on the ceiling and I believe my ceiling is 10ft, but the range will will be between 11.5 to 12ft (projector to screen) these are where the HDMI & outlet are located on the ceiling. Due the configuration of the room with a vent and light behind the HDMI & outlet I cannot move the projector further back. I'm really concerned because I would like to place a 106-110 inch screen, but when I went to the site projectorcentral to calculate the "throw range" at 12 ft it suggested a 99 inch screen. Are these calculations absolute or do I have some wiggle room?
Any suggestions or advice would be highly appreciated.
Does going with the max zoom have a negative impact on image quality? I'm trying to avoid relocating a ceiling fan but that means pushing 1.5-1.6X zoom to get the 110" image size I want. Does the zoom factor have any impact on how much image shift I can use?
My review of the VPL-HW40ES has been released in the September issue of Widescreen Review, September 2014. In print or online at http://www.widescreenreview.com/
My review of the VPL-HW40ES has been released in the September issue of Widescreen Review, September 2014. In print or online at http://www.widescreenreview.com/
Hi guys,
Hope that many of you here who have the 40ES can help me out.
My Epson 8100, after 2 years of sitting in the warehouse from moving, is now in coma due to convergence issue. I'm in the market for a new projector.
Yesterday, I demo'ed these 2 projectors and my impression is:
1. As a former epson owner, I may be a bit biased, but the epson color (skin-tone etc.) are perfect in the natural/theater mode. None of the Sony's default mode make me happy. Do you all have to re-calibrate your Sony proj?
2. They put on the Discovery channel on both projector which showed some wild-life program. I noticed the water fall was very jaggy on the Sony. It looked like bunch of squares water blocks instead of a smooth stream of water. I ran over the Epson wondering if this is b/c of the receiver but the video on the Epson (same source) was very smooth. I mentioned that to the dealer and he turned of the Reality mode on the Sony which helped a little, but I still feel that the image is jaggy and not smooth. I can't imagine such a expensive projector would have such problem given many glowing review on the internet. Perhaps it is a defective unit? If you owner have any video with water fall scene, can you do me a big favor and check it out?
I can get the Sony for $2K which is a very good price. I can also get the Epson for $2.6K - 10% from BB (I still have their 10% coupon mailed to me few months back). However, I'm a bit uncomfortable with the Epson QC given their bulb blew up on my after 400hr and now the convergence issue. But I really like their picture quality. Perhaps I should get another demo on the Sony somewhere else to check out the picture quality.
anyhow, any advice/suggestion/tips from the owners here are greatly appreciated.
Hi guys,
Hope that many of you here who have the 40ES can help me out.
My Epson 8100, after 2 years of sitting in the warehouse from moving, is now in coma due to convergence issue. I'm in the market for a new projector.
Yesterday, I demo'ed these 2 projectors and my impression is:
1. As a former epson owner, I may be a bit biased, but the epson color (skin-tone etc.) are perfect in the natural/theater mode. None of the Sony's default mode make me happy. Do you all have to re-calibrate your Sony proj?
2. They put on the Discovery channel on both projector which showed some wild-life program. I noticed the water fall was very jaggy on the Sony. It looked like bunch of squares water blocks instead of a smooth stream of water. I ran over the Epson wondering if this is b/c of the receiver but the video on the Epson (same source) was very smooth. I mentioned that to the dealer and he turned of the Reality mode on the Sony which helped a little, but I still feel that the image is jaggy and not smooth. I can't imagine such a expensive projector would have such problem given many glowing review on the internet. Perhaps it is a defective unit? If you owner have any video with water fall scene, can you do me a big favor and check it out?
I can get the Sony for $2K which is a very good price. I can also get the Epson for $2.6K - 10% from BB (I still have their 10% coupon mailed to me few months back). However, I'm a bit uncomfortable with the Epson QC given their bulb blew up on my after 400hr and now the convergence issue. But I really like their picture quality. Perhaps I should get another demo on the Sony somewhere else to check out the picture quality.
anyhow, any advice/suggestion/tips from the owners here are greatly appreciated.
1. Based on the review at Projector Reviews, the Sony is almost perfectly calibrated out of the box. A full calibration made almost no difference. That's been my experience as well. Reference mode is almost dead on perfect.
2. The waterfall in the Discovery channel program probably IS jaggy, because of compression artifacts. Cable and satellite providers compress pretty tightly, so things like waterfalls and fog often have blocking or banding. The Epson was probably smoothing out the image based on its algorithms, and the Sony wasn't. This could be because the settings were different (was reality creation turned off on the Sony?), or because Epson's smoothing algorithms worked better on that particular scene. I tend not to mind this type of thing, because it's a matter of accurate versus "pretty", in which case I usually choose accuracy. It's a personal preference thing though.
The short version is that I really like my HW40, and wouldn't trade an Epson 5030 for it. But there are people that would disagree. They are very close in performance.
Thanks Barleyguy & Jrm21 for your replies.
Unease about the Sony's performance I saw earlier, and with your inputs, I went to the BB to see these pjs again.
With the blueray in, the performance of the Sony is excellent. The movies has few water scenes and I see no pixelation there. RC=ON is very good. RC=OFF is a bit too soft for me, but not that far off from the Epson. Clearly, the jagginess I saw earlier was due to the bad source. Likely the problem with the signal split.
I'm sold on the Sony.
Few more questions for you all:
1. Price: I haven't track PJ price lately. I can get this PJ for $2K from an authorized dealer locally. He only has few left. However, my theater is a month at least from finish and I don't want to buy now and let it sit in the box. Has this PJ been discounted before and what price?
2. I also just bought the 65" Sony TV W850A (an excellent TV) that came with 4 IR 3D glasses. Do you know if the TV's glasses would work with the PJ?
1. The cheapest it's ever been discounted to is $1999. Right now it's $2499 and Sony keeps pretty tight pricing. Your dealer probably bought them when they were on sale. My guess is that it will intermittently be on sale for $2K, but if you don't buy it now you might not be able to get it for that price at the exact time you want it.
2. Some IR glasses work, some don't. The Playstation 3D glasses are confirmed working. The XPand X104s work. The Sony BR250 glasses DON'T work, based on 3 people in this thread that tried them. I'm not sure which glasses come with the W850A.
This is probably the wrong thread... but can anyone address the difference when using X104 glasses on IR vs RF?
The idea of getting glasses that are compatible with both transmitters is appealing. Not needing to upgrade to RF is even better.
Also, where are you getting 104s for $20? They seem to be much more expensive than that, though maybe there is more than one 104 model.
The Epson 5030 is often said to have superior 3D and that is what is keeping it in the race for me; if I thought I wouldn't notice or care about the difference, the Sony is the winner for me due to lower input lag.
I would like to see the 3D of the Epson 5030. I have a hard time believing it does better 3D. I prefer the 3D of my Sony to my old BenQ and everyone says DLP has an advantage in 3D. But the Sony is rock solid, better and brighter colors, and a sharper look. Not sure how the Epson could be better given the technological differences between the two PJs. I'd go with the Sony, straight up. I know I did.
Are these the same as the X104s on Xpand.com? The model numbers don't quite match and the price difference is huge. Well, I guess so, the model number turns up this on Amazon. I was just surprised to see MSRP of $120 and street price less than $20.
I am not even sure what 3d PJ I am going to end up with but getting a pair of these doesn't seem like a bad idea...
The different model numbers are different colors and sizes. Also, the ones with a "B" at the beginning come with the RF attachment. But if it says "X104" in the name, it's basically the same thing.
I have found the Sony Playstation 3D glasses on Amazon for $9.99. They work well with the HW40ES. The glasses are not very comfortable and will hurt your nose after an hour or so. I have walked back to about 20 feet from my projector screen and they still worked. I can tilt my head in different directions and do not lose 3D. I am very satisfied with these glasses.
Anyone knows if it is ok to ceiling mount the projector with a clearance of perhaps 2 to 3 inches between the rear of the projector and the wall?
The manual recommends a distance of 30cm between the rear of the projector and the wall which sounds like a lot. Don't have a lot of space to work with so would like to ask if anyone is using it fine with a lesser clearance.
Hi gents,
The Sony manual said the vertical lens shift if +/-70% from the center. So if my screen is 60" tall, I can shift (0.7*30") by 21". In other words, I can mount the projector 21" higher than the top of the screen.
The projectorreview site, however, stated that you can only mount the Sony 8" higher than the screen which worry me.
Is my calculation wrong? I have 10ft ceiling and don't want to hang the proj too low.
I'm edging closer to selecting the Sony and I need to check my math. I'll be using a 135" 1.0 gain screen in a blacked out room, and want to make sure it will be bright enough for 3D. If anyone on the thread has relevant experience, can you let me know what you think?
I started a thread over here--it is a general 3D brightness inquiry but I am trying to vet the HW40ES.
I posted a link to some glasses on Amazon that work perfect. They are $16 and much lighter than the ps3 glasses. They would not work at first but I found a setting on the 3d menu on the Sony called option. When I turned this on the glasses started to work great.
Now that y'all have your nice, new HW40ES projector and have been enjoying the heck out of it, and thus are HW40ES veterans, does anyone have any advice on what to do during the first hour or so after receiving A BRAND NEW HW40ES!!!?
I have the unopened WOW blu-ray, and all I've done is plug the hw40es in and hit the 'pattern' button...and recognize that the bright sun streaming in the windows onto the projection wall (no screen yet) means I have to wait for sundown to play with it. Dang. (still waiting on window treatments).
Was gonna line up the pattern, hook up blu-ray player and make sure I don't see those blue corners dr bass mentioned.
Are there any other good diagnostic tests to discern whether I have a defective unit...that is, right away? This is my immediate concern right now - just make sure everything is copacetic. First i gotta do the incoming quality assurance testing, then I'll enjoy it afterwards.
Now that y'all have your nice, new HW40ES projector and have been enjoying the heck out of it, and thus are HW40ES veterans, does anyone have any advice on what to do during the first hour or so after receiving A BRAND NEW HW40ES!!!?
Screen is 112" gain 1.0 and projector ceiling mounted about 4 meters away from screen.
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