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New dedicated room. Looking for best PJ for around 1700$

My room will be 100% light controlled

16x11x7.5

I would like a CIH 2.35 screen about 120". Seating distance and PJ distance an be anything I need in the room since I am building from scratch

I can buy a brand new (but from a private owner) panny 8000 for 1700 shipped (and can use the rebate since he never did and bought it from projector people) so it would e ultimately 1350$.

I also want 3d since I have a ton of 3d bluray

Thanks in advance!
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Is this someone you know and trust. Why would they sell a $2500 projector brand new for $1700 - the rebate? If its legit I would snap it up quick as that's one of the best projectors to do CIH with out an A lens .
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I been looking at projectors for my new house soon to replace my old 720p dlp. From what I have read, nothing compares to dlp for 3d. The lcd projectors all seem to suffer from crosstalk while my dlp is almost perfect with just some slight ghosting occasionally.
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Yes he is a reputable source. He bought it in December but couldn't set it up. He has tons of positive feedback.

He just wants to recoup his money (he paid 2100 for it. I have his receipt.
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Yes he is a reputable source. He bought it in December but couldn't set it up. He has tons of positive feedback.

He just wants to recoup his money (he paid 2100 for it. I have his receipt.
$400 off... Heck of a deal on a solid projector. I'm no fan of the screen size considering your room size and I'm not a fan of 2.35, especially if you are using the 11' wide wall to put that screen on, but that's up to you.

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Is this someone you know and trust. Why would they sell a $2500 projector brand new for $1700 - the rebate? If its legit I would snap it up quick as that's one of the best projectors to do CIH with out an A lens .
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$400 off... Heck of a deal on a solid projector. I'm no fan of the screen size considering your room size and I'm not a fan of 2.35, especially if you are using the 11' wide wall to put that screen on, but that's up to you.
Can you elaborate? Thanks
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If your intent is to project onto the 11' wide wall, and you are sitting about 15' away, then the proper size screen for that would be 10' for a 16:9 aspect ratio. That's not going to work really unless you go to in-wall speakers and an acoustically transparent screen, and that's for a 16:9 ratio, not a 2.35 ratio.

Now, if you intend to rotate the room and project onto the 16' wide wall, with viewing at 11' away. You have certainly could go wider. At 11' a 100" diagonal 16:9 image is typical and CIH from that distance would be 127" diagonal - but the Panasonic can't hit a 127" diagonal with only a 10' throw distance (lens to screen).

So, I would personally go for, and recommend the largest 16:9 screen that fits the 11' wall and allows for your speakers. There is no obvious reason whatsoever to go to the 2.35 aspect ratio in this room other than 'you want it'. Which, is up to you.

But, realistically, you have maybe a 9' wide screen you can use on the 11' wall, less 4" of screen border, so 8'4" wide - about 100". That puts your seating at 150" (12.5' eyes to screen) for a very comfortable 16:9 viewing experience with a 115" diagonal 16:9 screen.

If you were to go with a 120" diagonal 2.35 screen, that screen material would be 111" wide plus about 8" for screen borders so 119" (let's call it 120") which is 10' wide, which I expect to not allow you to get speakers to the left/right of the screen. Still, that only produces a 16:9 image which is 94" in diagonal. At THAT size your seating should be about 121" from the screen, or 10' away. That's pretty close considering your room size, and doesn't really work anyway because of the room width.

So, in your case, which is similar to the case of many others, you don't have the width to work with 2.35 properly, and when you rotate the room to have the width, you no longer have the depth to do 2.35 properly. So, I recommend a 16:9 screen. This way you can maximize your screen size on the 11' wall, and have no impact whatsoever on your 2.35 screen size.

It also makes some difference than there is no native 2.35 content really. Just 16:9 content which has black bars above/below it. Your best content comes in the 16:9 aspect ratio, so why not make the most of it in your room?
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I am using an AT screen

Also the seating will most likely be closer than 15'

Thanks for the info though
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So would a benq 1070 be better with a 120" 1.85?
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So would a benq 1070 be better with a 120" 1.85?
With 11 foot wall, you could fill up the wall with a 135 inch screen and could mount the speakers under the screen.
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So would a benq 1070 be better with a 120" 1.85?
I would say the AE8000 is, overall, a better projector than the W1070. In a good room, the 8000 has better black levels, and excellent image quality. The 3D may be just a hair off from the W1070, but I would take the better image and far greater flexibility that the AE8000 offers for sure. Especially at the price you are getting it for. If you aren't sure, feel free to send me the AE8000 and I'll send you my W1070.

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Is the 8000 warranty transferable?
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Call Panasonic and ask to be certain. If it is transferrable, I would jump on that deal.

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Is the 8000 warranty transferable?
I would think that the warranty is good from the purchase date. You buy for a family member, or friend, etc. then there is no 'transfer', it's just the warranty. As long as the warranty hasn't been used before and the projector hasn't been registered, then it is under warranty from the date of purchase with the receipt.

Certainly doesn't hurt to call though.

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I can still send in the rebate as well so I will have paid 1350 total for the ae 8000

Is it in fact worth 600$ more than the benq 1070
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AE8000
better placement options
memory zoom,lens shift and focus (great for CIH)
good optics
no chance of RBE
higher resale value
quieter
better blacks (needs a good room)

BenQ 1070
Has that sharp DLP look and POP
better motion handling
better suited to a bad room
chance for RBE
cheaper
noiser
no chance for CIH

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Just bought the open box 8000

Oh man! Haha thanks for all your help!!
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Just bought the open box 8000

Oh man! Haha thanks for all your help!!
IMO - You will be very happy with this. Talking about the AE8000, vs. Optoma HD131 or BenQ W1070, or Epson 5030, or even the Sony 40ES, we aren't talking differences between a bad projector and a good projector. We are talking differences between a very good to very very good projectors. They are all well built, have good color, good contrast, etc. Some have better lenses (Panasonic for sure) and some are DLP which have the DLP advantages (speed, sharpness). But, at the end of the day, you almost couldn't make a bad decision here.

Enjoy it, and go with a nice large screen - you will be very happy in the long run I expect!

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Awesome. I'm pretty excited although it will be a couple of months before I can set it up.
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