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Need projector recommendations for my throw.

I need a projector that is 18.5 ft from the screen projecting onto a 114 inch diagonal screen.

Playing with the calculator at projector central the BenQ W1070, Epson 2030, and the Optima HD25 are out. I know the Sony's and JVC's will do it, but I don't have $2500 to budget on a projector.

Any suggestions?
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If $1900 isn't out of the question the hw40 or ae8000 will fit.
I'm not sure what cheaper options are out there that don't lack something. Are you okay without 3D? The Epson 8350/8345 will make it and look pretty good for less than the Sony and Panasonic, but doesn't have 3D.
The other LCD options with zoom will still be fairly expensive AND have significantly worse contrast than the w1070.
There are a couple DLPs with longer throws, but I'm not sure how easy it is to check by throw distance to be sure.
The viewsonic pro8200/8300 appear to work but the brand doesn't have the greatest reputation.
Benq's w7000 will make it, but is likely over budget being so near $2000 that you might as well save a little more and go for the Sony again.

The search doesn't appear to take zoom into account when searching by throw-distance, so it takes a little double checking.
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$1999 for the sony hw40 ended yesterday...
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Thanks for the recommendation on the Epson 8350, I'll look into it. 3D isn't needed, we aren't big fans of it. My only fear of the Epson is LEDs seem to have more problems.
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Thanks for the recommendation on the Epson 8350, I'll look into it. 3D isn't needed, we aren't big fans of it. My only fear of the Epson is LEDs seem to have more problems.
As an owner of an 8350, I'd like to point out something.
Recently a friend of mine bought an 8345. Since he was on vacation for a month, I had a whole four weeks before i had to set it up in his apartment. Just to see how it would perform, I switched out my 8350 for his 8345 (I used my own bulb so i wouldn't put hours on his) After calibrating it, and using it for a few days, i came to the conclusion that the 8350 and 8345 are exactly the same.
If you're looking to go with the 8350, forget about it and get the 8345 for 200 dollars less. Pay no attention to the lumens and contrast claims. Trust me, these projectors are the same. At this point, I think Epson should retire the 8350 and continue selling the 8345 at the lower price point.
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Ben, do you have a link? Looking at projector people, and VApex they are the same price (1,099).
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From what I surmise, the 8345 is the 8350 with the newest firmware in it. If you buy a 8350, it likely will have the same firmware, but it may be an older model, with older firmware. I believe that Epson has stabilized voltage some, and done some work on the electronics to give a more stable voltage to the lamp to help with lamp blowouts which were more common with the 8350, and haven't been reported as an issue as much with the 8345. So, I would very specifically get the 8345, as it's just the most 'up to date' 8350 on the market. I do believe that they very slightly brought lamp power down a bit to help increase lamp life and to stabilize the electrical system a bit.

The 8345 is a great projector. Not as good as the W1070 from BenQ, but the optical system on it is really incredible, and sorely missing from newer models, especially DLPs.

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Ben, do you have a link? Looking at projector people, and VApex they are the same price (1,099).
Amazon.com is selling them for $999. Vapex has refurbs for $799.
It seems Epson is rebranding them with a PLATINUM label and raising the price. Go to Amazon or Vapex now to get one.
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After reading the Epson 8350 owners thread it seems these projectors have a ton of problems. Any other projectors with the zoom I need?
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This is your list of models under $2,500:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/proj...sort=pop&sz=15

The 8350 is NOT particularly troublesome, but it is extremely popular, and many years old now. So, as a very popular, and somewhat old model, there are more than a few people who have issues. I have installed half a dozen of them and not one has shown any specific major issues. I expect failure rates reported just seem high due to the massive number of people who have bought that model.

Still, the Panasonic AR100 is a option, and would appear to be pretty close to the 8345/8350 in terms of overall image quality and functionality.

From there, I would likely go to the Panasonic AE8000, which is $1,900 after rebates right now.

Of course, for $500, you may be able to get someone to run a few wires for you and move the projector closer up, and use a $750 W1070 or something in that price range.

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I can't move the projector closer, there is a new ceiling fan in the way and it's the one thing in the room I can't touch. The wife gave me the OK for black paint, wall panels, sound treatments, etc... but the ceiling fan is there for the duration.
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The 8350 is NOT particularly troublesome, but it is extremely popular, and many years old now. So, as a very popular, and somewhat old model, there are more than a few people who have issues. I have installed half a dozen of them and not one has shown any specific major issues. I expect failure rates reported just seem high due to the massive number of people who have bought that model.

Still, the Panasonic AR100 is a option, and would appear to be pretty close to the 8345/8350 in terms of overall image quality and functionality.

From there, I would likely go to the Panasonic AE8000, which is $1,900 after rebates right now.
I wonder about the Epson, I realize it's very popular, but in thread after thread there are many people having to exchange them 3-5 times until their warranty runs out or they get a good one. I haven't seen any other projector brand that has that kind of exchange rate on the forums.

The Panasonic AR100U looks to be a good projector, but there isn't that much feedback on it. For the price of the Panasonic AE8000 wouldn't it be a better buy to get the Sony HW40ES, some places still have the sale price of $1975-1999? The AE8000 and HW40ES are a little out of budget but the wait may be worth it.
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I think there are more lemons with the Epson's than some others, but I think it also clearly manifests itself, and should be replaced if you run into that issue, but certainly none of my clients have experienced the issue that some have run into. So, I don't think it's as bad as some may believe.

Still, yes, the Panasonic models do well, the AE8000 is a solid unit, and I would personally get the Sony if I were to buy anything new right now and the W1070 didn't work or I wanted a 'better' class of projector.

The Sony is a solid step up from the W1070 and most others that are cheaper.

I have one coming in (40ES) which I will be comparing to my W1070 on a 161" screen.

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