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Bought a LG PF87k

Heyas, I'm new here but been lurking for a while.

Just bought a LG PF87k the 3D version - there are 3 on eBay.

While i'm waiting for it to arrive, i wanted to get some English remote controls.

I see lots of the magic remotes on eBay, but i was after the other remote.

Does anyone know where i can get the standard remote for a PF87k, i assume it would be the same as a PF85k ? or any other projector model.
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cant wait for your impressions. i'm very interested in the 3d function of the model. do you need a 3d converter or does it have a hdmi 1.4 port?
does it work with every shutter glasses or do you need a specific kind?
what about the focus uniformity on your device?
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cant wait for your impressions. i'm very interested in the 3d function of the model. do you need a 3d converter or does it have a hdmi 1.4 port?
does it work with every shutter glasses or do you need a specific kind?
what about the focus uniformity on your device?

I don't know if i need a converter

i would assume if it can do 3d in 1080p @ 120hz it would have hdmi 1.4, don't you mean hdmi 2.0?, hdmi 1.4 has been out for 5 years.

As for the glasses i assume it would be the same glasses as the old version, pa75k ? has 3D DLP, but the resolution was 1200x800


I think the PF87k has focus by turning the front lens, not sure if all models had that. the zoom i think is done through the menus

Will post more when it arrives.

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I don't know if i need a converter

i would assume if it can do 3d in 1080p @ 120hz it would have hdmi 1.4, don't you mean hdmi 2.0?, hdmi 1.4 has been out for 5 years.

As for the glasses i assume it would be the same glasses as the old version, pa75k ? has 3D DLP, but the resolution was 1200x800


I think the PF87k has focus by turning the front lens, not sure if all models had that. the zoom i think is done through the menus

Will post more when it arrives.
if it has a hdmi 1.4a port (03/2010) then there should be no need for a converter box. if i get it right these boxes are for projectors with hdmi 1.3 ports who are able to do 3d in some resolutions at 120hz, but not accepting signals directly from hdmi 1.4a output devices..
regarding the focus uniformity. i can confirm from my lg pa70g (and it has been reported for the lg pf80g also) that it is very hard if not impossible to get an evenly focused image of the whole area cause of the plastic optics. its not a deal breaker for movies or games, but for surfing or pc use in generall you should recognize it pretty soon. i think in the other thread you can find a test image with text all over it to check it. maybe they have improved production in the meanwhile.
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Just downloaded the manual from the korean site

http://www.lgservice.co.kr/cs_lg/dow...egoryCode=1008

cant really read korean, but it shows the 3D modes supported (see attached thumbnail)

Anyone figure this out ?
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Just downloaded the manual from the korean site

http://www.lgservice.co.kr/cs_lg/dow...egoryCode=1008

cant really read korean, but it shows the 3D modes supported (see attached thumbnail)

Anyone figure this out ?
looks very promising. seems like it has native 3d support for hdmi up to 1080p. so no extra box needed.
oh man cant wait for ifa and the release in germany
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looks very promising. seems like it has native 3d support for hdmi up to 1080p. so no extra box needed.
oh man cant wait for ifa and the release in germany
Yes indeed that sounds promising, but on the Korean website it says it's DLP link ready.
We need to find out what that means, or someone here on AVS could explain what it means.
If LG introduces a US version of this projector then we have a winner.
Unless ? LG has a totally new projector in the works with 1200, 1500 Lumens.
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Yes indeed that sounds promising, but on the Korean website it says it's DLP link ready.
We need to find out what that means, or someone here on AVS could explain what it means.
If LG introduces a US version of this projector then we have a winner.
Unless ? LG has a totally new projector in the works with 1200, 1500 Lumens.

Not sure what it means, but there's this texas instruments site.

http://www.dlp.com
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http://www.dlp.com/projector/dlp-inn.../dlp-link.aspx

i think we have just to wait for Pittys impressions
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What is the estimated date of arrival of your unit?

Review ASAP please
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...it's DLP link ready.
DLP Link is a 3D syncing technology which is common with DLP projectors. It is a standard in the industry, so there are many different 3D glasses which are designed to be used with DLP Link.

The way it works, is that the 3D signal, whether it's frame packed, frame sequential, or side-by-side, is shown on the screen as a left eye image, red flash, right eye image, red flash.

When you put on DLP Link glasses, the glasses see the 'red flash' and go blank. Then the left eye opens, then they blank for the red flash, then the right eye opens, then they blank again for the red flash.

There is a thread in the 3D section of the forums about the W1070 and different glasses which have been used. There are cheap (sub $20) glasses which have strong reviews for their performance. I have the Sainsonic glasses which allow a bit of red flash though, and I have two sets of EStar glasses which let no red flash though. The 3D crosstalk is lower than any commercial theater I've been to, including IMAX 3D setups. There is ZERO crosstalk, which makes viewing 3D much more enjoyable.

So, DLP Link ready just means that you feed that projector a 3D signal from a capable player, in the proper format for the projector, and it will utilize DLP Link to show it on the projector. It's 'ready' to go. DLP Link ready. The projector may also offer options for other types of 3D syncing to be used. Such as an external RF emitter of some sort. But, that has extra cost, while with DLP Link you can get very good performance right out of the box with some decent DLP Link glasses.

Hope that clears things up some. My personal experience comes from DLP Link with the W1070. No buttons to push or anything, I just load the 3D disc, the projector identifies the incoming video as 3D (from Blu-ray 3D discs!) and I get a blurry, somewhat red image on screen. I put the glasses on, turn them on, and they immediately sync up on screen. It's slick enough that my 7 year old son has it all figured out.


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Unit has arrived,


Watched Avatar last night, was amazing quality, I've never owned another projector so i can't compare it to anything else.

Also bought a LG BP540 3d blu-ray player and a cheap Teac set top box($40) - so the TV images are pretty crap


Not sure what info you want but Here's a bunch of pictures all taken during the day on my android phone (crap camera) - so lots of light coming in through the windows with dark curtains. Projecting on beige coloured wall with no screen.

projected Image dimensions 2.3m x 1.3m throw distance is 3.2 meters to the lens.

http://imgur.com/a/igwcS#23



Regional settings can be either Korean or Other. YouTube and some apps are Korean regional (in English but must be pointing to You Tube Korea)

The inbuilt TV tuner wont pick up Australian Channels

Can't test the 3D yet, the pair of AG-S230 LG glasses i bought don't work (unless i'm doing something wrong) - I have 2 pairs of Genuine OPTOMA 3D TV DLP-LINK Active SHUTTER Eyewear Glasses BG-ZD-301 HD25 HD33 from eBay coming
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261519030...84.m1497.l2649

First thing i noticed was Tru-Motion was making the movies look like soap operas, so i turned that off.

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Thanks PittyH!




No doubt, Native Full3D projector
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Unit has arrived,

Not sure what info you want but
1st of all thank you for your pictures.
for me its about these points:
- do we need additional hardware (besides the glasses and a 3d source) to enjoy 3d from BLU-RAYS
- how good or bad is the chromatic abberation on your device?
- how good or bad is the uniformity in sharpess/focus (some areas a little bit out of focus when others are perfectly focused?)
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- do we need additional hardware (besides the glasses and a 3d source) to enjoy 3d from BLU-RAYS

The PA75U don´t need additional hardware, with the PF87K I´ll bet it´s works in the same form

LG PA75U Play 3D Blu-ray?
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No doubt, Native Full3D projector
Other than it not having zoom and lens shift, this is the projector that many of us have been waiting for in the last 4 years.
Zoom and Lens shift would be a nice feature but I can find ways to work around that.
Hope LG introduces a US version of the PF87K with hopefully more lumens.
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Wish i had a proper camera, these pictures don't do it justice..
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can you say something about chromatic abberation and focus uniformity?
when will you get your new 3d glasses for testing?
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Wish i had a proper camera, these pictures don't do it justice..




Wish i had a PF80G or a PF87K...Would look even better than my PB60G
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great info,i like it very much,The projector may also offer options for other types of 3D syncing to be used. Such as an external RF emitter of some sort. But, that has extra cost, while with DLP Link you can get [IMG]http://*******/mTg8QS[/IMG]very good performance right out of the box with some decent DLP Link glasses.thanks
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Bought an english magic a400 black remote from ebay, looks exactly the same but doesn't work.

On the back of my original one is the serial number, AN-MR400K

On the back of the ebay one is AN-MR400G/NB

Waste of money.

Was going to try swap the covers, but meh can't pull it apart.
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I'm having trouble understanding connectivity with this projector. I need to be able to connect my Directv Genie DVR to this projector wirelessly. There seems to be two or three wireless methods imbedded in it. Will any of those work?

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can you say something about chromatic abberation and focus uniformity?
when will you get your new 3d glasses for testing?
Not yet, i will soon

Glasses should be due any day.

Do you have a link to that test picture? i can't seem to find it.

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I'm having trouble understanding connectivity with this projector. I need to be able to connect my Directv Genie DVR to this projector wirelessly. There seems to be two or three wireless methods imbedded in it. Will any of those work?
I honestly don't know if your genie will work.
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I'm having trouble understanding connectivity with this projector. I need to be able to connect my Directv Genie DVR to this projector wirelessly. There seems to be two or three wireless methods imbedded in it. Will any of those work?
I went to Direct TV's website and you need a additional equipment called the Genie Minis with the Genie DVR.
I don't know much about wireless anything, but I would guess the Genie Minis is some kind of modem/router for the Genie DVR to connect to any of your other equipment i.e. projector, PC, home network.
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Not yet, i will soon

Glasses should be due any day.

Do you have a link to that test picture? i can't seem to find it.
for chromatic abberation something like that should be suitable to easily recognize color fringes on hard contrast transitions



for focus uniformity you can use the nec test pattern



hope that helps
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I went to Direct TV's website and you need a additional equipment called the Genie Minis with the Genie DVR.
I don't know much about wireless anything, but I would guess the Genie Minis is some kind of modem/router for the Genie DVR to connect to any of your other equipment i.e. projector, PC, home network.
I have wired Minis. What I'm trying to do is have just one 120v cable, the projector's, at the projector. I can buy, for about $180, an HDMI transmitter/receiver but that is another 120v cable at the projector site which is a coffee table. I'm hoping that one of the three, I think, wireless capabilities on this projector would handle HDMI signal. Do any of these do that?

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Not yet, i will soon

Glasses should be due any day.

Do you have a link to that test picture? i can't seem to find it.
Pitty ?
I better ask while it's still in my memory, does the LG PF87K have built in TV ?
I not sure if I have gone over the specs for the projector it came to my mind while I was looking on Newegg of the LG PF85U and I wondered if the LG PF87K also has a TV tuner.
Sorry if this is a redundant question.
So far if LG releases this projector in the US as the LG PF87U version at a reasonable price this projector is a winner.
Of course more Lumens would be great.
I am trying not to make many multiple posts so I going to keep it nice and neat in this post.
JackB ? you said you have the Direct TV Genie Minis wired ?
Even if it's hardwired would it still send out wireless signal to and device that would or could receive wireless ?
I really have not learned much in the wireless world, I am still with wired Internet and network, faster and more secure.
That's why I like the LG PF85U or the LG PF87K because it has a Ethernet port.
The only thing I have wireless is the Bluetooth PlayStation 3 controller.
Yes, I can see how wireless makes life more simple, less clutter, however if it's a signal from the internet ? I rather be safe and keep it wired and it's faster until they can make it more secure and faster.
Yes I can go with wireless speakers, controllers.
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Pitty ?
I better ask while it's still in my memory, does the LG PF87K have built in TV ?
Yes, has a coax cable input on the back

But its regional based, Korean at the moment.

Image below of DTV options
http://imgur.com/a/igwcS#29

I can't use the TV function in Australia, and i don't think there will ever be a firmware update for this device ever.
Would be nice if someone knew how to flash these things, and i could get an Australian firmware in a few years, If these ever come out in Australia.

Even a UK firmware would be good, they use DVB-T in UK as well i think. Not even sure if the hardware could pick up DVB-T though.

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I went to Direct TV's website and you need a additional equipment called the Genie Minis with the Genie DVR.
I don't know much about wireless anything, but I would guess the Genie Minis is some kind of modem/router for the Genie DVR to connect to any of your other equipment i.e. projector, PC, home network.
I did a little checking. At this time the wireless Genie/Mini is a Directv wireless protocol and only works between these two devices. I guess I will have to use one of the wireless HDMI transmitter/receiver devices.

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