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Best new 720p projector now?

I am helping a friend on a budget set up a living room projector setup. His screen is only 90" so I suggested with that small of a screen and watching distance of 10' or so, he could save some money by staying with a 720p unit. What models do any of you own or suggest? I used to own a Mitsubishi HC1500 that I enjoyed, and I guess he would be willing to purchase a used pj with low bulb hours also. Thanks for your suggestions!
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I am helping a friend on a budget set up a living room projector setup. His screen is only 90" so I suggested with that small of a screen and watching distance of 10' or so, he could save some money by staying with a 720p unit. What models do any of you own or suggest? I used to own a Mitsubishi HC1500 that I enjoyed, and I guess he would be willing to purchase a used pj with low bulb hours also. Thanks for your suggestions!
What's his budget?
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I would avoid buying a used projector.

You can get a brand new BenQ w1070 1080p projector at a good price.

Benq W1080ST DLP 3D Projector
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I put up a Viewsonic PJD5533 for a friend. He got his for $404 off Amazon at the time (now around $450). He has had no issues with his. I have the cheaper SVGA Viewsonic PJD5134 with right at 700 hours on it with no issues....but,


I second spending more. Even my friend (with the Viewsonic) wishes he had got the 1080p after he saw my Epson HC2000 which runs $699 on Amazon.


Even the Benq W770 720p runs $549, so spending more makes sense. He can't go wrong with either the Benq w1070 ($749) or the Epson HC2000.
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I should have added that with a 90 inch screen even the SVGA Viewsonic 5134 looks great and the best part is a price of ($300 to $349 usually) so it is basically a cheap entry into HT. I use mine on a 92 inch "outdoor" screen and don't notice the pixels at a standard seating distance. I only upgraded when I blew up my image from 92 to 120 to 150. The little pj is so good that I gave my wife the Sharp 70 inch after a week of getting the pj.


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His budget is $500 max. He has a nice screen already, but still needs a AV receiver and speakers.
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Is that $500 for the projector? If it is $500 for everything, I would suggest going with something like a 2.1 Logitech Z623 200w THX ($109) set computer speakers and skip the receiver for now. I did this for months and still use them from time to time. One audio cord to deal with from the pj and you set the volume on the speakers to about 65% and then use the pj volume to control it.

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Projector budget is $500. I think some of you are saying 1080p or nothing, but this guy will more than enjoy 720p. I am currently own a Viewsonic Pro8100, a nice 1080p machine, and I don't see much difference between 720 and 1080. Most of my viewing as well as my friend will do is HDTV so 1080 is overkill anyway. He doesn't need 3D either. Please suggest some 720p machines. Thank you.
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You might consider an led unit as well. ACER has some cost effective options like k132.
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Looks interesting, but he will need a brighter machine than 600 lumens. Thank you though!
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Not necessarily, yours isn't overly bright either:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/viewsonic_pro8100.htm.

I'm not sure lumens scale quite as neatly/linearly as one would like where the human eye/dynamic retina is involved either though I won't pretend to know enough about it to say for sure.

Sounds like you have all the answers already though so suggest whatever you like

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I’ve heard good things about the Optoma H180x (about $450) as long as he’s not susceptible to rainbows. There’s also the Optoma DW326e (about$410) that looks like a WXGA version of the 180x.
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yep, lumens scale quite as neatly/linearly as one would like where the human eye/dynamic retina is involved either though I won't pretend to know enough about it to say for sure,[IMG]http://*******/OSI1pM[/IMG]thank you
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The acer H5380BD (720p) is also praised by those who are NOT rainbow effect sensitive, according to the site thewirecutter.com the contrast and the black levels are almost the same as the Benq W1070, it costs around $500.

If your friend is rainbow effect sensitive (unlikely) or the projector is going to be used in a bright enviroment, there is the Epson 725/730HD (720p), its a non 3D projector (don´t worry, 3D is dead), 2800/3000 lumens, rainbow effect free, great color accuracy BUT low contrast and black levels, however if the projector is going to be used in a bright place the DEEP contrast and DEEP BLACK levels are not going to be noticed anyway.

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Didn't mean to sound like a prick there in my last post, It just didn't seem like the poster is open to advice.

Basically we don't have a lot to go on here. Room brightness and screen size is key, as well as rainbow effect sensitivity.
With a 90" screen in a light controlled room without caring about 3d I can assure you the led units can get quite bright, not as uncomfortably bright as modern lamp units but still bright enough.
The led units can also have an inherent advantage for minimal rainbow effect. I have seen this effect in the past on a bulb/color wheel based rear projection unit where as I can only see the slightest hint of it with very specific high contrast material on the Acer k330.

If however room light is an issue then you should definitely go for a bulb based unit, as any led projectors bright enough aren't likely all that cost effective yet.
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For what it's worth, I have the Benq w770st, and I think it's great. I've found many positive reviews online as well. A refurb is $499 on amazon. Here's a couple of pictures. My phone camera doesn't do it justice though. Also, the screen is not skewed, it's just the angle that I took the picture.
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Southpaw, do they make the Benq w770st in a non-short throw version? I like Benq and set up some at my old job for conference rooms and such. If not then I may steer him toward the Acer although I have no experience with the brand. I asked him if he might be rainbow sensitive but he doesn't know since he has little time viewing other than at my house. I should kick in some cash for his projector since he usually eats up $5 worth of snacks every time he come over to watch. I think he is taking a previous posters advice not to buy a used unit. Maybe good advice too. Thank you.
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Here's the list of 720p projectors out there:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/proj...d&is=&sort=brt

My money would be spend on the Optoma H180X which is a recent release, and supports most resolutions including 1080p and frame packed 3D from Blu-ray.

It's available for under $500 easily, and what I would be buying if it worked in my setup and I only had $500 to spend.

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Guys thanks for all of the advice and suggestions. My friend purchased a Acer H5380BD from Newegg for a really good price. I will help him set up and post back with my findings. AV, I think the Optoma would have been a great PJ also. Thanks again!
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what about this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400746644100...84.m1497.l2649

Not the best but pretty solid i would say. I dont have any regrets, go a brand new unit with warranty for 260... what more do you want? My whole set up with mounted automatic screen, mount converters and wireless hdmi transmission cost about 700$ not bad for a 3d movie theater.

If money is an issue, this would do the job and some.
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